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Father Time
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12/14/2017 1:30:29 PM
Anybody have any idea what the end of net neutrality will mean to IMP?
Any really knowledgeable people out there?
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/14/2017 1:45:36 PM
no, not knowledgeable but have some semblance of what is going to occur and have done reading on it from different perspectives
One of the better more balanced articles on the subject is here, at wired.com dont skim through it needs to be read in full to grasp what is really going to happen.
What Everyone Gets Wrong in the Debate Over Net Neutrality
gives a good presentation of what it is all about.
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Richard Scotti
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12/14/2017 4:00:46 PM
The end of web neutrality is especially harmful to websites that are still struggling to survive. The newcomers and startups will find it hard to find a place among the already existing competition. Just because they cannot afford to pay extra, their sites will be slow. And in case they pay up and pass on the charges to customers (end users), their turnover is affected. Suppose someone has a good idea of an alternative to Facebook. And they implement it free of cost. Since Facebook is able to pay, it gets better speed while the startup suffers because it cannot pay the ISPs.
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/14/2017 4:27:44 PM
non technical easy to understand link I posted. people need to read about it before going off knee jerk. read the article I posted and research glean through the net gain insight from the various viewpoints on how the net works now.
From wired, bits and pieces of what I think is the thing of what is happening and has happened and will continue to happen. frankly, we are getting a good deal.
"We shouldn’t waste so much breath on the idea of keeping the network completely neutral. It isn’t neutral now. What we should really be doing is looking for ways we can increase competition among ISPs—ways we can prevent the Comcasts and the AT&Ts from gaining so much power that they can completely control the market for internet bandwidth. Sure, we don’t want ISPs blocking certain types of traffic. And we don’t want them delivering their own stuff at 10 gigabits per second and everyone else’s stuff at 1 gigabit. But competition is also the best way to stop these types of extreme behavior"
"Because these companies are moving so much traffic on their own, they’ve been forced to make special arrangements with the country’s internet service providers that can facilitate the delivery of their sites and applications. Basically, they’re bypassing the internet backbone, plugging straight into the ISPs. Today, a typical webpage request can involve dozens of back-and-forth communications between the browser and the web server, and even though internet packets move at the speed of light, all of that chatter can noticeably slow things down. But by getting inside the ISPs, the big web companies can significantly cut back on the delay. Over the last six years, they’ve essentially rewired the internet."
"The Google Edge
Does this give companies like Google and Netflix a potential advantage over the next internet startup? Sure it does. But this isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In fact, this rewiring has been great for consumers. It has allowed millions to enjoy House of Cards, YouTube, and Kai the hatchet-wielding hitchhiker. It’s the reason why the latest version of high-definition video, Ultra HD 4K, is available for streaming over the internet and not on some new disk format."
"Traditionally, ISPs have not charged for interconnection points. They’re happy to have Google or Netflix or Akamai or Level 3 servers or routers in their data centers because they speed up service for their customers and reduce the amount of traffic that has to flow out of their network. You could look at these arrangements as fast lanes—but because ISPs have treated their networks as an open marketplace and delivered real value to consumers and businesses, they’re not the kind of thing that the FCC should be discouraging."
ok I break in here, now note the very last sentence
"The problem today isn’t the fast lanes. The problem is whether the ISPs will grow so large that they have undue control over the market for fast speeds"
This basically sums it up clearly.
"Seth Johnson, believes competition can change things, but that it will take government action to make that happen. “Competition and regulation are not at odds in every case. Particularly in telecom,” he says. In any event, competition is a bigger issue than net neutrality. The internet has evolved, but the debate must evolve along with it."
Wired will have 2 more articles on this and I recommend people to read and come to their own conclusions, and not go off half cocked before they investigate and get the full picture of what is happening
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/14/2017 4:30:25 PM
IMP will be fine. I dont think there is an issue with this net neutrality thing. the People here may have to pull out coin and perhaps a rethink to support IMP may be something to consider for the future, but then, we all have heard this before
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Paul groover
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12/15/2017 7:35:35 AM
Net neautrality is easy it's bare naked greed by a few against the majority. It's a declaration of war really. IMP will go in the internet ghetto along with the alt media and other dissenting voices. Google is the ministry of truth. Facebook is the control mechanism. And that will be your lot. It's bad now but just wait a couple of years. The internet was always a control mechanism. It was never meant to be in any way neutral but Tim Berners Lee hoodwinked the TPTB by designing the internet protocols to be agnostic. All traffic on a network is treated equally. They have been fighting this since the start when they realised there mistake. If you want to see what apartheid is just look at Nelson Mandela or Ghandi. This is digital apartheid and your in the ghetto
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Father Time
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12/15/2017 9:29:22 AM
1stRepublic14thStar?
@1Republic14Star
1h1 hour ago
Replying to @DonaldJTrumpJr
Here's me explaining Net Neutrality in detail. Trump Internet Service can make propaganda from Trump News Network available to every Internet user while blocking Fox, CNN, MSNBC, Joe Blow's News Blog, or any other content that competes with Trump News Network. 1/
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/15/2017 10:12:51 AM
I still think people are over reacting, and IMP will be fine, it is not left wing nor right wing nor really political any way shape or form ,this is what it is all about, stay neutral.IMP is in a good place
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Paul groover
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12/21/2017 2:01:57 PM
---- Updated 12/21/2017 2:06:41 PM
Under estimating in my opinion. If you want access to imp that will be extra or anything else the tptb deem not in there interest
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/net-neutrality-shut-access-alternative-news/
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