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the IMP shrink
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12/20/2015 4:30:56 AM
If love is the answer..
how come so many people who love each other just can't seem to work out their differences?
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Noah Spaceship
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12/20/2015 4:49:38 AM
Maybe love isn't the answer. But if it is, maybe it only works for those who appreciate it. Or maybe for those who can't work out their differences, their love is misdirected.
One thing I've experienced is love makes the world more beautiful despite our differences and/or lack of resolve.
Maybe love is the path to peace and the only difference that needs working out is first working out the difference between loving oneself or not.
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Shoe City Sound
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12/20/2015 9:20:40 AM
---- Updated 12/20/2015 9:23:27 AM
Oh love is then answer, alright - t's just that hardly any adults know what that word means anymore - not like Fred's understanding of it above ^ - really well said, I thought.
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12/20/2015 10:20:59 AM
Hi DEVO. Nice to see you.
She's just the girl... she's just the girl... The Girl You Want....
Okay.
Well I guess I'll have to talk a moment about this too. Hopefully a short moment.
IF Love Is The Answer... What Was The Question Again?
Love is a bit more complicated than, oh, say, having a bucket of
water poured all over you.
Imagine, if someone comes along, and just dumps a bucket of water on you.
And you go,
"Why did you do that?"
"Well, because it was easier and less complicated than loving you.
Have a nice day now..."
And technically, that's probably true, it is easier and far less complicated.
I better watch it, I don't wanna start sounding like an intellectual...
Heaven Forbid.
But okay, to quit it with the Vaudeville one-liners,
thanks Henny, Channel you later, Dude. Rock On.
(I love Henny, when he was alive, he was actually in the NYC phonebook,
my brother and I used to call him up, and ask him for a one-liner,
and he gave us a howler, Every, Time. God Bless YOU Henny Youngman!)
Now look...
Love is a lot of things... and the more you dress it up,
the less you'll see it.
In other words, the more you let your brain do all the talking,
the more you become some attempt at 'intellectual'
and the farther away from your heart you get. Then you wonder
how the hell you got there.
Love doesn't mean never having to say you're sorry.
Love means having to say you're sorry every five minutes, that
one came from a recorded quote by John Lennon...
If you've been married a while, you can make it to every ten.
Love, in order to work, has to be, a flow, a give and take...
Because it's not just about love the person you love,
it's also about, balancing it out, with loving yourself.
You do realize that's part of it, don't you?
If you do not or can not love yourself, you won't be very good
at loving anybody else.
Also, it's important not to 'qualify' love with the intellect,
because you think asinine things like 'if you love me, you'll do this this or this..'
It's ---and this is from T.S Elliot...
It is perhaps the biggest challenge we'll ever face,
to love another human being.
The work, for which, all other work is but preparation.
That was on a Patti Smith album, Easter, I believe.
Sorry Patti, it's Christmas, but you're fine as wine,
and I'll dance barefoot with you any day.
Love is a kind of 'meet in the middle' thing....
And not everyone wants to budge from their position.
Love is a delicate balance, and take it from me, for I know from whence
I speak, Love is not something one ought to ever take for granted.
For that would be a Big Mistake.
Okay, Take It Away, DEVO!
~L
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Noah Spaceship
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12/22/2015 2:44:49 AM
Like Minds, Lesley. You get it, sister. :)
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Two Silo Complex
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12/22/2015 1:38:42 PM
I agree with American Lesley Jane that love is a complicated beast.
I also agree with Noah Spaceship sometimes you love some one and they don't understand it or don't appreciate it but if you really love them and I mean the gritty kind of love that last more than a 10 minute romp in the sack then you just keep on loving them anyways.
True love never fails and never fades. True love is not about being able to work out differences but it might make life more pleasant when you can. True love keeps loving despite our differences.
True love is loving not about being pleasant but its about sticking around when the shit hits the fan and your up to your eyeballs and you hold each others hand with a tear in your eye and say well at least we are in it together.
True love is hard to find and even harder to loose because it can be lost but yet sometimes can still be found again still burning in the ashes that you thought were long dead and cold.
It is my hope that everyone at least once in a lifetime gets to experience this but some don't. For you my brothers and sisters in indyland I have a kind of love it's a love that I can't explain and I hope you don't mind when I tell you unashamed that I do love you and hold you close to my heart and when the cold wind blows you keep me warm and when the rain pours down sometimes we both get soaked to the bone but we still have each other.
If we fight don't think that I don't love you anymore. I do and sometimes during the times we fight I love you even more even if it does not feel like love right then.
Love and peace,
TSC,
Ken
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12/22/2015 1:45:13 PM
I LOVE this thread, and I Love You ALL!
Good work, Devo.
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/22/2015 1:55:47 PM
too yecky and icky for me dudes, duders dudetters whatever. fluffy cloud stuff not real come on now. angels floating down dusting you with angel dust sparkle and shine get real
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12/22/2015 1:57:41 PM
Bit too Kumbaya for you Sir?
I understand.
You might like a Christmas record I made with BEATLESEX,
called "Bah! Humbug" ---I feel like that a LOT.
I am, oh, terribly real.
I shall never love again, and I can only remember my dear dead wife fondly.
I hope you have someone.
Don't let my fairy dust cramp your style, Dude.
I thought I got most of it in the pipe.
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/22/2015 2:00:16 PM
I had to take a shower after reading all this phoney baloney. better now. ok. yes, I do have someone, 43 years of wedded bliss. why I am so blessed I dont know, must have some magic in me or they felt sorry for me? : )
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12/22/2015 2:05:01 PM
43???
Okay, at least I understand the 'oh this is all too sweet I think I may puke' thing...
But I am jealous of you. I only got 26 years.
And a lot of people never understand,
it is next to impossible to start over. That's All Folks, as the saying goes.
But I get it Bryon.
Funny, I was just in the shower before, myself.
Just as a reset, I'll do that. It helps.
And you are totally lucky, 43 years, Good Heavens, I'm totally jealous.
At this point, you both probably can say "Oh SHUT UP"
and still know it means I Love You.
Kumbaya M'Lord.. Kumbaya......
Lucky person you.
You have the reality of Love, which is a few more feathers and mess
than the mere suggestion of 'pillow fight'.
All I have are memories and philosophy,
and yeah, since you called me out on it, it DOES suck donkeys. Fair Square.
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/22/2015 2:11:31 PM
YES it works like this, and took me a long time to get it and understand
So, for a successful long lasting relationship this is what I try to do
EVERYDAY I SAY IF IF I DONT HAVE TO
YOUR RIGHT
I AM WRONG
I LOVE YOU
AND ALSO I LOVE YOU
stuff like that
that works wonders,
there in a nutshell is how a guy needs to admit we are the lesser ones, the not so smart ones. if a man thinks he is smarter then his better half or other half , whatever half, then you are a loser. ok take off eh men are such hoseheads sometimes
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12/22/2015 2:21:10 PM
Well, there's a guy who knows.
Abso-fuckin-lutely.
Rule Number One: She's Always Incredibly Correct
and we're always incredibly wrong.
Cut to the chase, admit that, no matter how much you may ever
feel it to be to the contrary, and return to wedded bliss.
This guy knows how to Use The Force.
Some of you may say
"Huh? Really? The guy's always wrong?"
He is if he wants life worth living to continue.
Look. I won the argument. It'll be three years now....
I can't tell you how happy I am.
Yes these are Sarcastic Bitch Jeans I'm wearing.
Yeah, I'm more of a girl now...
it's all I have left.
I'll never find another girl like Vanessa. Not no how not no way.
~L
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Two Silo Complex
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12/22/2015 2:25:33 PM
yes sometimes us men can be as you say "hoseheads " and sometimes women can be well you know what they can be I won't say it.
I admire your years and not many can claim to have such a duration these days. But does duration equal love or does duration equal complacency I wonder.
Yes sometime you need to say
YOUR RIGHT
I AM WRONG
but sometimes you need to say
I don't agree with you but I love you anyway.
Love does not mean being a slave or always bending to the will of your partner that is slavery. Love means accepting your partner even when you on the outs and listening when you don't want to hear it and giving more than you want to for the sake of the other.
Who knows maybe I will learn new tricks in the years to come but its got me this far in 19 years of marriage.
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/22/2015 2:30:34 PM
Ken, true, I was exaggerating the principle, of course there are going to be disagreements.and it is indeed a two way street, and we iron out differences, I was trying to make a point how to defuse a particular situation, but frankly men cause the most problems. because man, that is the way we are wired. we are wired weird. see that all those letters scrambled up. how we survive is beyond me, we should be extinct by now, except I guess we are needed
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Richard Scotti
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12/22/2015 6:52:24 PM
We've been married 40 years and we're still going strong. We agree on many things but on some thing we agree to disagree without rancor. We have learned when to compromise and when not to compromise. We make each other laugh whenever possible. We share tasks. We each have a strong sense of personal identity. We do things together and we do things apart. We never argue at night because tired people
say things they regret and it makes sleeping impossible. We celebrate our similarities and and tolerate our differences. We sing funny songs when we walk down the street.
We choose our battles carefully and we try not to fight dirty. We support each other's
goals and dreams. When we have a rough patch we know we'll get through it. We don't hold grudges. We're in it for the long run. I can't imagine life without her.
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12/23/2015 11:58:05 AM
and the question is "What is all you need?"
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Bryon Tosoff
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12/23/2015 12:29:53 PM
love is the word. all you need is love. is that all you need, or is there more?
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