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8/4/2017 10:59:43 PM
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Zeeza

8/4/2017 10:59:43 PM

So you want to be a star?
Its not that easy and very over rated. People can hate you for being a star, they will hate you if you love your works. Your peers will begin to put foam into your wheels, they will under mind your every effort to become a star. You will slowly start to cast a shadow onto your peers and they will feel the ray of your fame. They will not like it. A star you have become but for what price? You will loose some friends, you will be pushed off and slightly hated by those who feel shadowed by you. There is a price to pay for being a star. hahahahaha, harden up and get over it! :)


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Father Time

8/5/2017 12:24:08 PM


I don't know that I really desire in some deep way to be a star but the issue with me has always been this, if I hear music on the radio or wherever that I consider inferior to my own, I always think I deserve a higher station than this other artist or band. It's about achieving my rightful place in the sun.


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Larree

8/5/2017 2:36:46 PM ---- Updated 8/5/2017 2:38:48 PM


No artist's music is inferior or superior, and everyone gets what they deserve. Just sayin'. :)


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Jorgy III

8/6/2017 3:32:29 AM



Believe it or not, had I stayed with music in my early 20's chances were pretty good that I might have made a splash to two. Not that I was really ever exceptionally good at this but I did have some major pull from inside the industry during that period. I didn't care at the time though, It was the last thing on my mind.

But outside of a major talent like a Springsteen, I think most of the people who do become known have an insider pulling for them. Fiona Apple is another exception, pure talent.

But still the best music I've heard comes from nobodies. Quoting my late brother-in-law.., everybody's got a hit song in them, and I can't disagree. Nothing more abundant in this world but talent, but where do you put them all? And if you're missing a key element like performing.., forget it. It ain't gonna happen.


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Duane Flock

8/6/2017 9:29:40 PM


If you're a hard working musician, you're sleeping on couches, and/or eating cup-o-noodles.
Think about what "friends" have done for you besides borrow, manipulate, take from, etc.
When you have a lot...... everyone is your friend, when you have nothing you basically make your own Luck.

I have "aquaintances" ,or people I know that trade favors.
You don't get something for nothing......Usually. It's mostly "who" you know anyways far as being a STAR. I've seen some really bad artists "make-it".

Sorry, but that's life.


D.







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Stoneman

8/7/2017 1:36:59 AM


Yeah, all these statements are true but not one of us would turn away a chance to make it really big in this industry. Some of us have been at it for many decades and really deserve a ligitimate shot and others have dabbled here and there but never really committed to the art of making music. I have known some stars (and no, I am not going to name drop here) but those that I have known have intimated how frustrating it can be to not be able to just pop into Macdonalds and have a burger without being mobbed, filmed and starved to death. It is a real problem that they face daily. My goal was never to become a star. My goal was to get to the level in life where all I have to do is work on music full time daily at my own leisure. I achieved that goal but it took me many years of hard work and sacrifice. Quite often I worked two or three jobs at a time just to finance putting my little studio together. I managed warehouses in the Silicon Valley and worked for the state corrections department all while heading up a touring band. In addition to this, I worked as a general manager for a local music publisher. That gave me valuable insight into the industry from a music executive perspective. I signed lots of songwriters and some of them made lots of money from the deals. All I am saying is that you poke your head into whatever crevice that makes itself available and maybe you will find an opportunity in it. But it all starts with a viable product. Without that, your efforts are useless. The song is the vehicle to the upper echelon. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of people who are awful at music but have the illusion that they are great. I use to get about 300 demo's a week and some of them were just plain shit and sounded like ass. Smelly ass. You know? Ass that hasn't been washed in a long time. Anyway, enough on ass music. My point is that after a while, hearing all the bullshit makes you a bit jaded. I know I was for a long time after I quit the music publishing job. I didn't want to hear nobody's music but my own and even my own shit sounded shitty to me for a while. Stardom is so fleeting because there are so many talented people out there trying to make it in this business. Somebody has to fail. Or, should I say everyone can't be a star? I tell my students to fall in love with the music and that love of doing music will carry them through the hard times and through the moments of insecurity about their accomplishments in music. You have to love what you do so much that not making it big will never break you. But, if you happen to be one of the lucky ones who make it. Just be thankful and try to reach out and help others who deserve a shot to make it. I believe that we are all stars to somebody in our lives. Let that be the fabric of faith that you hold on to while you pursue your dreams. When you get my age you realize that your dreams are no longer attainable because you look like an old fart has been. But it is the love of music that will continue to sustain you and keep you motivated song after song after song. You have to love this shit. Only love will get you through the haters making nasty comments and the music insiders that pass on your work. Your love will out weigh their opinions and gripes about you. Ultimately, it is not the record companies or A&R reps that make you a star. It is the people that feel good enough about your work to buy it. Those are the people that lift you up to star status. Everyone else is just a stepping stone on the map to success. The DJ's and the bloggers. The people that forward your work through social media circles. Even, your fellow musicians who give good critiques about you. They all have a part in making you a star. Then there is that good old friend called "luck". That motherfucker may or may not come. But if he does, just thank your stars and enjoy it like you are the last lucky person on earth. Shit, you just may be when it comes to the music industry. But for me, it was all about setting realistic goals. you know? Shit that I knew I could accomplish. Now, I am in the twilight of my years and all I have to do each day is music. Well, and tend to my weed garden. Growing my own meds has become a fun hobby. But, I digress, Being able to do music without concern about my income etc. is what I dreamed of for many years and with lots of work I got here. I even went back to school and picked up some credentials in recording engineering. The love of music keeps doing music a fresh thing to do. I love it so much that I spend many hours of my retirement time every day in my studio working on music that the world will probably never hear. But my love for it makes it a worthwhile thing to do. To my friends and family I am a star. To the world I am just another indie musician. Whatever, do what you do! Right?

Much Respect
Stoneman


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Jorgy III

8/7/2017 12:05:48 PM





I must also add that when I started recording again it was only to do one song that had been collecting dust and then I set some poem to music that the author couldn't finish so I run into Daphne through the sound engineer to complete the song. And the Mc groupie appears about the same time and offers her vocals and I meet Dwight though her and all the sudden I have these two incredible vocalists and so things start rolling a bit. After a few pretty devious sound engineers I find one who's actually quite normal and we managed to get quite a bit done. But one singer has waited their entire life for someone to walk up to them and hand them a career and the other can't stop eating, add a few outside influences that should have been dropped off at the bus station years ago and well.., the project stalls and I'm broke, time to move on.

But here's the kicker.. About 2002 or so I'm contacted but some industry guy who likes what we were doing but stated clearly the facts. Chances were pretty much zero about any label ever taking a chance on us mainly due to age but gave me a list of buts.. That we had to go live, gain a following, demonstrate that we were committed and keep recording what he thought were quality songs and had we done that.., there just might be a place for us after all.

But is reality that probably wouldn't have happened regardless of how hard we worked but we could have paid some bills, I have no doubt about that. So maybe one of the singers did have had a career offered to him but just didn't know it and the other? Well..., I wish them all the best but the fact that the odds were so heavily stacked against us is what made the the whole effort so appealing and I would have been happy just doing it for free. But you have to have more than talent, you have to have it in your heart. If it's not there you're just wasting yours and everyone else time..

And what a waste of time and money it turned out to be. Live and learn I guess..


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Father Time

8/7/2017 12:38:40 PM


I disagree with that, doing music is never ever a waste of time. It's the equivalent to worshipping the god of your choice, it is the ultimate spiritual cure.


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Larree

8/7/2017 1:19:10 PM


Now I agree with that 100%, FT! Right on! Creating music is never a waste of time, and it is highly spiritual - especially in an improvisational environment. Like the great prophet Frank Zappa once said, "Music is the only religion that delivers the goods."


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