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8/8/2019 7:32:09 AM
RIP David Berman (Silver Jews)

6/12/2019 9:01:48 PM
A message from Ray Porter

5/21/2019 1:22:39 PM
The greatest live show I ever attended...

5/15/2019 1:53:19 PM
Jazz

5/10/2019 2:59:16 PM
Listen to me live on the radio TODAY (5/10)

2/28/2019 10:05:15 AM
Saw The Chills last night!

2/6/2019 4:01:04 PM
Booked another gig -- in May!

2/1/2019 5:15:39 PM
I'm thinking of stepping into Brazilian Pop

12/14/2018 8:06:23 AM
A great quote about playing guitar

12/9/2018 8:08:46 PM
How many of you have actually recorded to TAPE?

11/15/2018 10:12:59 AM
Anyone gonna be around Chicago for the Holidays?

10/18/2018 2:41:47 PM
SONGWRITERS: Is there a singer you would love to hear sing one of your songs?

8/27/2018 8:39:33 AM
Woke up with a completed song in my head!

8/20/2018 1:18:27 PM
I have this song about my little baby boy, Cary

7/5/2018 2:43:50 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BRYON!

6/15/2018 8:36:36 AM
Meeting IMPeople

5/8/2018 5:32:45 PM
Coming soon...the Hop On Pop BOX SET!!!

3/25/2018 9:40:15 PM
I think I have achieved my goal as a musician.

3/1/2018 2:28:05 PM
Which should I record next?

2/22/2018 6:57:58 PM
I'm gonna be a baby now

2/4/2018 10:54:01 AM
I saw a guy who looked like Scott last night

12/18/2017 7:32:11 AM
Thank you SO much for the "Best Band" nomination!

11/13/2017 6:30:24 PM
New songs are UP!!!

10/13/2017 9:48:24 AM
New songs—mixes are coming in!

9/30/2017 11:11:11 AM
Recording next week!

9/14/2017 10:46:42 AM
RIP Grant Hart

8/30/2017 9:51:19 AM
Tomorrow is my 20th wedding anniversary!

8/18/2017 9:13:28 AM
Cary turns 18 today!

7/1/2017 6:44:21 PM
I did a Facebook Live stream

5/1/2017 8:03:38 AM
The Monkees

4/10/2017 7:20:20 AM
Where did Larree's topic about The Beatles go?

4/5/2017 7:31:26 PM
I'm playing at Billy Corgan's place next week

3/24/2017 7:03:39 AM
If any of you are ever in Chicago

3/20/2017 8:08:09 PM
Vagina

3/6/2017 7:53:07 PM
Chance the Rapper donates $1M to Chicago Public Schools

12/2/2016 7:35:56 PM
The perfect Christmas gift!!!

12/2/2016 1:30:27 PM
Why is there a picture of Stoneman at the bottom of the front page?

10/23/2016 6:26:43 AM
Somewhere, Steve Goodman is smiling...

7/23/2016 6:04:51 AM
Live on the radio 7/29—stream or over the air!

7/8/2016 7:54:23 AM
I've been covered again -- this time by BEATLESEX!

5/16/2016 10:11:22 AM
I was on TV last night

4/21/2016 10:36:51 AM
Prince: Rest In Peace O(+>

3/24/2016 8:13:54 AM
Just finished writing my first song in almost 2 years!

3/15/2016 5:49:20 AM
Just catalogued my entire music collection!

2/26/2016 8:38:28 AM
Emitt Rhodes! His first album in 40 years released TODAY!!!

2/18/2016 6:34:00 PM
Writing on instruments that you don't actually play

1/7/2016 7:38:02 AM
Are there any artists whose new albums you will ALWAYS buy?

1/2/2016 5:28:44 PM
Free damn download

12/21/2015 6:24:03 AM
Happy Holidays, from Hop On Pop

12/15/2015 6:55:34 AM
Todd's top albums of 2015

11/27/2015 7:20:14 AM
In Chicago? I'm playing a show tonight (11/27)!

9/4/2015 11:17:13 AM
Twitter account from "Person Who Sits Next to Kim Davis"

8/22/2015 7:45:49 AM
My band got some airplay in Sweden!

8/14/2015 4:47:00 AM
I've been writing full-on record reviews

7/24/2015 11:09:54 AM
MY stumper questions for music geeks

5/29/2015 5:08:24 PM
#TheThankYouProject

5/27/2015 6:41:39 AM
What music is on your iPod/phone/portable device?

5/21/2015 4:20:23 PM
Rock quote of the day

5/20/2015 9:03:22 AM
A dissertation on… my lyrics?!

5/19/2015 7:20:04 AM
Looks great! So… any new features we should know?

4/29/2015 4:32:18 AM
Hooray! I've been waiting to post this NEW song!!!

3/5/2015 8:01:07 AM
New song: "We Made It To the Middle"

2/26/2015 5:01:03 AM
A couple of recipes, if you like to cook:

1/9/2015 12:24:15 PM
Sunday -- recording session

9/19/2014 7:50:00 AM
First full-band rehearsal in a long time

8/27/2014 6:14:48 AM
New way of releasing an album

6/23/2014 10:43:19 AM
Okay, so the new song is UP "Spinning, Standing Still"

6/12/2014 12:04:32 PM
Anyone in ST. LOUIS?

4/23/2014 8:35:19 AM
One of the best songs I have ever written

4/22/2014 5:07:29 AM
Muscle Shoals documentary -- you should ALL see this

3/4/2014 6:46:59 AM
Brand New FULL-BAND recording

2/26/2014 10:19:40 AM
Video from 2/21 show

2/13/2014 11:31:58 AM
I'll be on the radio tomorrow (2/14/2014)

1/2/2014 9:11:46 AM
It's been 10 years since my first album came out

12/16/2013 6:02:50 AM
The Curtis Mayfield Story

12/9/2013 12:05:06 PM
Your best of 2013?

12/6/2013 10:25:40 AM
Happy Holidays!!!

11/14/2013 10:34:41 AM
Back in the studio

11/12/2013 6:28:34 PM
Are we in a new Golden Age of mainstream pop?

10/11/2013 6:40:55 AM
This salsa...

10/9/2013 7:50:11 AM
When the demo is better than the released version

9/26/2013 5:34:43 AM
Anybody remember this guy from Garageband.com?

8/16/2013 7:44:31 PM
So, what is/are your main axe(s)?

8/8/2013 10:05:14 AM
Help me get a little press? Thanks!

7/14/2013 4:41:08 PM
It's nice to be on the Hitline

6/29/2013 12:45:14 PM
Giving it all away

6/18/2013 4:41:49 AM
Interviewed for a blog

6/3/2013 4:30:59 PM
One of those moments that keeps me going...

5/1/2013 4:53:15 PM
The one UK punk band that actually LIKED Thatcher

5/1/2013 2:02:23 PM
Money and time

4/30/2013 4:04:12 PM
My friend Phil almost died

4/18/2013 10:06:19 AM
What have I been listening to?

2/22/2013 7:31:46 AM
New single for download at my Bandcamp page

2/4/2013 7:16:59 AM
After 22 years a NEW MY BLOODY VALENTINE ALBUM!!!

1/8/2013 8:23:34 AM
Not feeling very inspired

1/2/2013 5:10:59 AM
The No-Getters - "Sympathy"

12/31/2012 6:40:42 AM
A Happy New Year song!!!

12/28/2012 11:46:03 AM
Todd's Top 10 (or so) albums of 2012

12/6/2012 6:46:07 AM
Maybe my favorite album of the year

11/28/2012 10:33:28 AM
Holiday special:

11/27/2012 7:15:20 AM
Happy 70th birthday Jimi Hendrix

11/21/2012 2:56:51 PM
A bunch of new acoustic tunes posted

11/6/2012 7:23:04 AM
In or around Chicago? Playing a show Thursday night.

10/22/2012 11:12:32 AM
A work tape of a new song

10/18/2012 6:44:58 AM
Hop on Pop is on Spotify

9/14/2012 12:17:47 PM
Dreamtown

9/6/2012 6:18:52 AM
Whiteboarding an arrangement.

8/21/2012 5:35:18 AM
I was listening to Chicken on a Bicycle last night...

7/20/2012 11:04:16 AM
Another song from the new EP -- so hard to sing

6/11/2012 6:26:08 AM
Anyone pitch their songs to "major" artists?

4/17/2012 6:20:19 AM
Another song from the new EP -- my newest composition

4/13/2012 2:14:34 PM
Just got the first bit of radio play for my new album!

4/9/2012 10:32:47 AM
I have my new EP available for download (and streaming)

4/5/2012 10:34:34 AM
A song unlike I've ever done before... or since

3/26/2012 10:30:18 AM
First song streaming from my new EP

3/26/2012 7:24:45 AM
Release date for my new EP: 4/10

3/5/2012 5:35:39 AM
CHICAGO: playing a show Thursday (3/8)

2/13/2012 10:07:06 AM
Where the hell was the love for Don Cornelius at the Grammys last night?

2/8/2012 10:15:41 AM
If you're gonna be in or around CHICAGO next month...

1/13/2012 12:50:25 PM
JESSE ADAMS! Another one who is finally getting his due on the front page.

1/1/2012 7:20:29 AM
Thanks for putting "Suckers" on the Hitline

12/22/2011 7:09:13 AM
Nice one, Phlegm and Coversation Suicide!

12/14/2011 6:22:33 AM
Another overdue artist gets theirs... congrats SILVERWOOD STUDIO

12/5/2011 11:17:54 AM
Nice work, Hugh Hamilton.

8/30/2011 8:05:58 AM
Interview with Todd at Hearts of Country Radio

7/5/2011 5:46:10 AM
More than a year and a half after its release... another review. Weird.

6/28/2011 8:01:46 AM
Thanks for (finally) paying me

5/31/2011 7:39:38 PM
The first new song that I've written in THREE YEARS?!?!

5/18/2011 5:40:25 AM
VIDEO of me playing live, on the air (5/20)!

5/9/2011 10:04:58 AM
Well, thank you!!

4/16/2011 9:42:43 AM
Chicken T-shirts!

3/22/2011 7:35:08 AM
Who here is from the Chicago area?

3/16/2011 6:50:33 AM
Recording my first official "solo" record?

3/7/2011 8:48:06 AM
I would like to get involved here again, but...

2/16/2011 8:36:45 AM
Happy birthday -- CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE

2/14/2011 5:46:13 AM
As long as we're on the subject of Facebook...

2/9/2011 6:26:28 AM
If you think that you hate rap music... think again

12/21/2010 6:37:18 AM
The nature of the creative mind:

12/9/2010 5:42:28 AM
Tribute to Alex Chilton

12/2/2010 5:48:39 AM
CHICKEN named one of the "10 Best Albums of the Year"!

12/2/2010 5:24:49 AM
Death Cab for Cutie!

11/23/2010 7:00:03 AM
New YouTube for "Here"

11/11/2010 8:55:11 AM
Money?

11/9/2010 6:48:52 AM
Whoever bought 2 songs from me today... THANK YOU!

11/8/2010 5:48:00 AM
An interview with Hop On Pop at Aussie web mag Tomatrax

11/2/2010 6:35:00 AM
Taking a page from Bryon's book: play this tune and help out Hop on Pop...

10/29/2010 5:33:31 AM
Both HoP albums AND the Cash Cow album are ALL available for DL

10/25/2010 6:59:05 AM
Hop On Pop knows egg rolls!

10/22/2010 9:04:27 AM
Playing a gig in Chicago -- 11/6

10/21/2010 7:22:23 AM
For those of you who like Jackass

10/21/2010 5:40:28 AM
"Sheila of the Worms" has crawled onto the HITLINE

10/19/2010 7:45:31 AM
New demo posted

10/8/2010 8:36:52 AM
F*cking disheartening

10/1/2010 9:08:50 AM
My label is folding

9/28/2010 6:19:20 PM
October 16 -- come see me play in Chicago

9/20/2010 5:07:03 AM
Is anybody listening? Strange.

9/10/2010 11:14:50 AM
Interviewed at Wobblehouse.com

9/9/2010 4:48:56 AM
Happy New Year!

9/1/2010 7:59:27 AM
What the hell? I'll post another song from CHICKEN...

8/26/2010 4:51:23 AM
Thanks for putting me on the Hitline

8/20/2010 12:56:22 PM
"What a Fool Believes" played entirely ON TOY INSTRUMENTS!!!

8/17/2010 12:01:10 PM
The "LIKE" buttons on our IAC pages...

8/16/2010 7:14:01 AM
I don't know what to say anymore

8/4/2010 10:26:57 AM
New rap/hip hop station... accepting submissions

7/19/2010 6:20:47 AM
Gonna record a follow-up single: A- and B-sides

7/9/2010 10:50:06 AM
Roky Erickson playing for little kids.

6/30/2010 6:01:17 AM
Heard my song on the radio last night... and IT WAS A REQUEST!

6/28/2010 5:26:48 PM
Follow me on Twitter?

6/28/2010 11:34:39 AM
Chicago -- CITY -- gig 7/24: advance ticketing!

6/25/2010 6:36:12 AM
R.I.P.: Pete Quaife (original Kinks bassist)

6/15/2010 4:04:09 PM
New Hop On Pop website!

6/14/2010 11:46:38 AM
Hop On Pop (Todd) live ON THE RADIO (streaming, too)

6/14/2010 5:47:44 AM
What's Todd Listening to in 2010? (part 2)

6/14/2010 5:13:24 AM
Back From Vacation. Hey!

6/2/2010 6:37:10 AM
What's your favorite chord? Do you have one?

5/18/2010 7:05:25 AM
I still just want to be heard

5/18/2010 5:03:38 AM
Chicken On a Bicycle -- pay what you want!!

5/5/2010 10:19:04 AM
Hey... Nashville!!!

4/23/2010 1:34:27 PM
Chicago... I am playing this weekend, if you are near here or whatever.

4/14/2010 2:23:09 PM
Bring the topics back to the front page!

4/9/2010 2:10:08 PM
IAC just feels dead.

3/30/2010 9:11:55 AM
What inspired you to start playing music? Writing music?

3/29/2010 7:51:34 AM
Just a thread to say "thank you"

3/25/2010 8:21:01 AM
Why I write songs

3/18/2010 6:42:56 AM
Alex Chilton (Box Tops/Big Star) is dead

3/15/2010 7:26:11 AM
AllMusic entry for CHICKEN...

3/8/2010 6:38:36 AM
Check out The Garden Clots -- I love these songs!

3/4/2010 7:49:23 AM
Holy crap! "HERE" is at #13 on the OVERALL charts?!?!

2/26/2010 8:31:59 PM
VIDEO: "Here" live and acoustic at the record release party 2/18

2/26/2010 2:43:36 PM
"TORTURED ARTIST" for your listening pleasure

2/22/2010 1:10:12 PM
So, I decided to post another song... "Sheila Of the Worms"

2/15/2010 7:20:41 AM
RIP: Doug Fieger (The Knack)

2/3/2010 2:35:05 PM
Second CHICKEN song on the Hitline in as many weeks?!?!

2/1/2010 9:38:23 AM
The first CHICKEN review arrived today!

2/1/2010 9:12:51 AM
Turning my 10-year-old on to music!

1/30/2010 8:56:14 PM
I PUT UP A THIRD SONG: so, which is "The Single"?

1/30/2010 10:39:05 AM
Drum solos

1/28/2010 2:05:21 PM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE: NOW FOR SALE (PHYSICAL CDs)

1/25/2010 1:24:01 PM
So, a tune of mine is being used on a radio commercial...

1/19/2010 12:47:48 PM
Hop On Pop - Chicken On a Bicycle: NOW AT ITUNES

1/19/2010 10:44:11 AM
So, IAC Support... did you get my email?

1/11/2010 10:54:18 AM
NEW!!! songs up at IAC... welcome the Chicken.

1/8/2010 7:14:41 AM
RECORD RELEASE PARTY!!! (if you're in or around Chicago at the time)

1/5/2010 7:38:11 PM
Do I have "The Eye Of the Tiger"? I'm gonna find out.

1/4/2010 6:51:14 AM
What is Todd Listening to in 2010?

12/31/2009 9:29:23 AM
"New Year's Eve" on New Year's Eve

12/24/2009 6:40:52 AM
Merry Christmas, you sexy people, you!!!

12/15/2009 7:56:30 AM
Just bought a new guitar last night!

12/10/2009 7:03:45 AM
Hey Larree: Who's The Guitar God NOW?!?!

12/7/2009 8:21:11 AM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE: official release date announcement

12/2/2009 6:22:17 PM
A Genius. And the documentary film about him!

11/29/2009 1:20:14 PM
Muppet "Bohemian Rhapsody"

11/16/2009 9:43:37 AM
I started a new blog

11/13/2009 1:56:33 PM
This song has been broken so long, I need to promote it now that IT'S FIXED!

11/9/2009 9:29:34 AM
Is the CD dead? Am I wasting my money?

11/9/2009 8:05:06 AM
Perry Como -- this is not a joke

11/3/2009 8:33:12 AM
Strippop

11/2/2009 8:34:46 AM
You may have noticed that I removed a few songs from my page.

10/28/2009 8:28:30 AM
To those of you who have AutoPlay enabled at any of your pages...

10/19/2009 2:29:21 PM
Mojo Nixon is GIVING it ALL away for FREE!

10/13/2009 12:17:17 PM
Do you remember your first gig?

10/8/2009 2:21:33 PM
Another Todd song faceoff: "Sweet Jane" vs. "Blitzkreig Bop"

10/7/2009 12:57:05 PM
I have NO new songs up!!!

10/6/2009 9:37:24 AM
Gentlemen...

10/5/2009 9:59:06 AM
I have $25 to spend at Borders how should I spend it?

9/25/2009 8:36:46 AM
Todd's song challenge: "Waterloo Sunset" vs. "God Only Knows"

9/21/2009 12:52:48 PM
HOP ON POP versus XTC?!?!

9/17/2009 8:12:53 AM
Another new Good Stuff Station!

9/16/2009 5:01:18 PM
It's people like THIS that bring this place to a whole nother level!

9/16/2009 3:29:39 PM
Favorite LONG jams?

9/13/2009 9:42:13 PM
Jim Carroll DEAD?

8/31/2009 7:59:09 PM
I bought a piano at an estate sale this weekend

8/5/2009 7:38:06 PM
Ever have one of your best songs not make it onto the album?

8/5/2009 2:37:43 PM
My ChewToy entry in the Punk/Emo/Ska contest is top 10? Help, please?

7/31/2009 4:39:24 PM
The Takers dirtyass country in a bottle.

7/27/2009 2:40:01 PM
Okay, so a new song IS up: "I'm Pathetic"

7/22/2009 7:55:41 PM
The big number at the top of the page!

7/16/2009 4:12:59 PM
The greatest Drummer Joke EVER!

7/15/2009 10:09:55 PM
This is weird. How did this happen?

7/15/2009 2:59:49 PM
What defines a "BAND"?

6/25/2009 6:28:13 PM
Farrah Fawcett: RIP

6/19/2009 7:26:07 PM
Discovering your favorite albums in a record store. Ever happen to you?

6/17/2009 6:22:58 PM
Excellent rant on the death of music criticism

6/3/2009 2:30:30 PM
So, what is your "Day Job"?

6/2/2009 9:07:27 PM
A true demo

6/2/2009 12:43:33 PM
What's Todd Listening to Today? 2009 Edition, vol. 2

5/12/2009 7:08:31 PM
Pre-release CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE Buzz!

5/11/2009 1:34:41 PM
Not your typical High School Musical (Neutral Milk Hotel!)

5/6/2009 2:34:26 PM
Which song of yours is unfairly overlooked?

5/4/2009 6:19:29 PM
Yeah, I put it on here for streaming, but can I RELEASE it like this?

4/29/2009 2:29:40 PM
With sites like IAC, et. al., is there a need for an "official" site for your band?

4/28/2009 4:04:58 PM
Can you say CONSERVATIVE Media Bias?

4/24/2009 4:42:30 PM
Chicago tomorrow morning free festival show

4/16/2009 3:14:35 PM
Pop/Rock Suites?

4/15/2009 2:18:08 PM
Placing your music into TV/Films/Commercials?

4/7/2009 8:27:36 PM
IAC artist HAPPY ASHTRAY song on TV tonight (4/7/09)!!!

4/2/2009 2:14:10 PM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE!

4/1/2009 2:21:13 PM
Favorite quotes Muhammad Ali version

3/31/2009 1:02:46 PM
New song from this weekend - "Sheila of the Worms"!

3/26/2009 11:40:57 AM
"Ashes On the Water" #35 in the Underground 40!

3/19/2009 12:45:56 PM
The Killed Spirits

3/11/2009 1:15:23 PM
"I'm Pathetic" well, it's true!!!

3/4/2009 2:16:36 PM
I think I'm becoming a producer.

3/3/2009 1:47:31 PM
You like beer? I do.

3/2/2009 3:49:47 PM
Kevin White - "A Song For Holly"

2/25/2009 1:56:26 PM
NEW BEATLES SONG UNEARTHED!!!!

2/24/2009 8:31:34 PM
Favorite SINGLE LYRIC!

2/22/2009 2:50:13 PM
I might be a little absent for a bit

2/18/2009 2:47:56 PM
Writing a song? Can't finish it?

2/17/2009 6:38:06 PM
Thelonious Monk's advice to Steve Lacy

2/16/2009 5:53:11 AM
Say what you want about her boobies...

2/9/2009 8:12:52 AM
I called the radio station to request a song and...

1/30/2009 8:59:59 AM
Hey Everyone! LET'S LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC!!!

1/30/2009 6:40:00 AM
Funny thing about the blogs/internet boards

1/29/2009 6:10:53 AM
Math: the language of God, which makes Music....

1/27/2009 12:09:22 PM
This one's for Holo!

1/27/2009 6:02:57 AM
I know what's happening!!!

1/20/2009 7:20:30 AM
Licensing cover songs?

1/19/2009 6:01:45 AM
New song is only up for a short time "Come On, Let's Go"

1/15/2009 11:54:34 AM
Rob the Rich - "Forbes"

1/14/2009 6:53:30 AM
The newest GOOD STUFF station!

1/14/2009 6:30:01 AM
Not just favorite music movies, but also favorite movie quotes...

1/12/2009 6:23:50 AM
With which (non-IAC) artists do you most wish to collaborate?

1/7/2009 5:54:39 AM
The hardest song to sing?

1/2/2009 5:43:33 AM
The 2009 "What's Todd Listening To?" thread

12/29/2008 6:19:22 AM
Your favorite quotes from the film: "A Christmas Story"

12/26/2008 8:21:39 PM
Just a reminder about this excellent song

12/25/2008 7:23:21 PM
Does this work?

12/24/2008 8:54:38 PM
Something deep for you all to ponder.

12/24/2008 6:07:20 PM
New Year's Eve song

12/19/2008 11:01:26 AM
I love you all

12/15/2008 10:33:51 AM
Give me a reason to keep this song up at IAC

12/14/2008 8:12:59 PM
What would REALLY happen if you got to open for THE BEATLES?!?!?!?!

12/11/2008 8:39:39 AM
Ray Porter's interview with Phlegm

12/10/2008 11:01:36 AM
Cash Stream Buy-In value has dropped? Already?

12/8/2008 11:16:50 AM
Leo Goldberg is now available for streaming.

12/8/2008 7:36:28 AM
Bringing in an outside SINGER?

12/1/2008 10:18:38 AM
Converting .m4a to .mp3 for use here?

11/28/2008 7:06:35 AM
What I'm thankful for

11/26/2008 6:10:49 AM
So, I'm being covered... TWICE. Make that THREE times!!!

11/16/2008 10:13:26 AM
Any of you struggle with disabilities

11/16/2008 9:43:22 AM
Interview with legendary producer Jim Dickinson on Public Radio

11/11/2008 9:37:36 AM
A song for Veteran's Day

11/11/2008 6:09:57 AM
To those of you who served in the Military:

11/11/2008 5:59:17 AM
Dear Man With No Band Sam,

11/10/2008 7:36:51 AM
When an artist has a mountain of music at their IAC page...

11/7/2008 11:13:13 AM
Can you tell it's been slow at work for me?

11/6/2008 12:46:41 PM
Hear where it all started!

11/6/2008 11:20:07 AM
Adding songs to a DMD, but not to your artist page?

11/6/2008 5:19:01 AM
Those of you who noticed the new DMD at my page....

11/4/2008 1:39:49 PM
Photographic evidence that I really did vote!

10/30/2008 12:51:25 PM
I just got an AllMusic entry for me, by myself.

10/30/2008 11:46:58 AM
You who have autoplay enabled...

10/29/2008 7:48:32 AM
I am so ready for this election to be over!

10/28/2008 8:00:55 AM
You know, the great thing about democracy....

10/23/2008 6:19:23 AM
Chicago area: I'm playing a rare club show... November 13!

10/22/2008 12:18:39 PM
Chinese Democracy FOR REAL... do you care?

10/17/2008 12:16:12 PM
Levi Stubbs dead

10/15/2008 6:59:39 AM
A Year With Swollen Appendices: The Diary of Brian Eno

10/13/2008 10:39:02 AM
LISTEN TO MY NEW SONG!!!!!!! or something.....

10/9/2008 5:02:20 AM
"C'mon Angel" is at #12 on the Country charts!

10/2/2008 6:44:47 AM
So you like albums to have a consistent sound, or to sound different from song-to-song?

9/29/2008 8:30:23 AM
I am such a wuss now.

9/22/2008 10:28:37 AM
The best rock n' roll scream on IAC?

9/19/2008 6:48:21 AM
Where Todd recommends specific music for specific folks here at IAC:

9/18/2008 11:30:12 AM
The craziest, coolest song that I have yet heard on IAC

9/17/2008 9:20:47 AM
All options to promote on the web: iLike

9/8/2008 11:01:24 AM
Great new tune...

9/8/2008 5:26:32 AM
One of my favorite songs has made the Hitline

9/5/2008 2:30:10 PM
Totally psyched! My birthday concert will be...

9/5/2008 5:20:40 AM
Ricky Skaggs?

9/3/2008 5:52:55 AM
How many of you here actually entertain the idea of making a living with your music?

9/2/2008 4:32:52 AM
This is why I make music

8/20/2008 6:21:33 AM
Nick Lowe fans: LISTEN UP!!!

8/20/2008 5:11:15 AM
Brought my guitar to work

8/18/2008 12:39:27 PM
Not just spam, but I am having issues playing my songs

8/15/2008 7:42:51 AM
My top 100 albums of all-time

7/26/2008 3:35:51 PM
"Hey" remixed and up for only a couple of days.

7/22/2008 3:15:18 PM
Open Mic night: I'll be at Fitzgerald's (Chicago) tonight (7/22)

7/18/2008 12:37:00 PM
The Truth about McCain and his Bush

7/15/2008 6:20:57 AM
My station: "The Good Stuff"

7/9/2008 6:55:33 AM
Hop On Pop recording updates

7/7/2008 8:50:59 AM
Lest you all think that I was serious...

7/4/2008 9:23:22 AM
A wonderful musician who wants to TEACH

7/2/2008 7:36:38 AM
Needed: Chicago-area bluegrass musicians

6/23/2008 5:23:46 AM
Second MIXTAPE song posted... again for a short time, only.

6/11/2008 5:54:55 PM
Your favorite moment gigging?

6/10/2008 11:37:59 AM
Now YOU can listen to some of my extensive music collection

5/29/2008 7:36:41 PM
Basic tracking for MIXTAPE song #2 is done!

5/22/2008 12:16:25 PM
I'm trying to bring this guy to IAC

5/22/2008 7:52:18 AM
A NEW SONG -- well, a new old song...

5/19/2008 6:01:53 AM
What's Todd Listening to Today? -- 2008 Edition, vol. 2

5/19/2008 5:59:19 AM
Whoever bought a HoP DMD: Thank you!!!

5/16/2008 5:03:41 AM
Todd: Solo, Live, and Acoustic -- CD available

5/12/2008 11:52:17 AM
No more small shows in CHICAGO??!? --- STOP THIS!!!

5/8/2008 11:05:12 AM
Post the link to your IACer-selected cover tune here!!!

5/7/2008 12:12:52 PM
Pick a Cover for another IAC Musician

5/5/2008 10:44:30 AM
What is up with ukelele?!?!?!

5/5/2008 6:59:02 AM
Which of your songs surprised you?

4/30/2008 12:15:44 PM
Kids review Yo La Tengo

4/29/2008 11:29:40 AM
HEY BLUEGRASS MUSICIANS!!!!

4/29/2008 4:58:52 AM
Oblique Strategies

4/28/2008 12:41:23 PM
Another MIXTAPE demo is up for your perusal

4/21/2008 9:26:46 AM
CHICAGO: I'm playing a show on Apr. 24

4/11/2008 6:38:04 AM
If you like the new song...

4/9/2008 6:27:28 AM
New station - The Good Stuff, Too!

4/7/2008 5:01:58 AM
FIRST "MIXTAPE" SONG UP (for a short time only)

3/28/2008 7:28:28 AM
How do we (CAN we) search by city?

3/25/2008 11:49:47 AM
One of my best-ever songs... is incomplete. What would you do?

3/7/2008 7:35:00 AM
And... WOW!!! Thank You!

3/6/2008 4:26:12 AM
I saw The Pogues last night.

3/5/2008 5:53:30 AM
HEAVY FREAKIN' METAL!!!

2/22/2008 8:47:12 AM
A meditation for you:

2/19/2008 6:57:09 AM
Songs that you wrote around a song title.

2/7/2008 7:39:12 AM
Because we could all use a good laugh

1/31/2008 10:53:59 AM
I have been here since the beginning and never had a Top-50.

1/31/2008 9:32:30 AM
A new station: Yin/Yang

1/22/2008 7:23:26 AM
I don't wanna be famous.

1/17/2008 11:18:04 AM
You have the power... I know that I do.

1/15/2008 6:38:50 AM
Anyone see Roky Erickson on Austin City Limits the other night?

1/9/2008 6:09:17 AM
I fear that I've lost my passion

1/2/2008 7:30:12 AM
What's Todd listening to today? -- 2008 Edition

12/26/2007 9:18:07 AM
Chicago: I'm playing a show on Jan. 4

12/24/2007 7:51:19 AM
My end-of year mix

12/10/2007 9:42:27 AM
Volume control issues?

12/4/2007 9:03:58 AM
What's the most-embarassing album in your collection?

11/29/2007 10:34:20 AM
List here ALL of the projects that you have on IAC

11/27/2007 3:08:12 PM
ESSENTIAL READING FOR ANYBODY WHO RECORDS MUSIC!!!

11/26/2007 11:11:04 AM
Have you ever shared a gig with an IAC artist? How was it?

11/26/2007 9:45:33 AM
My "The Good Stuff" station is #33 on the station charts?!?!

11/20/2007 10:14:23 AM
Creating stations of entirely your own music?!?!

11/14/2007 3:15:10 PM
Who is selling HARD-COPIES of CDs here?

11/1/2007 12:12:44 PM
I'm going to play for my son's 2nd Grade class tomorrow!

10/29/2007 3:38:42 PM
Let's hook up on MySpace, too!

10/26/2007 8:49:43 AM
Let's hear your musician jokes.

10/24/2007 3:35:22 PM
Scott, add a new genre? Lo-Fi?

10/24/2007 2:14:32 PM
So. Cal. IACer check-in. Are you okay? Status?

10/10/2007 9:49:56 AM
Post your AllMusic listings/reviews

10/10/2007 9:09:26 AM
So, I won concert tickets to see... Steve Earle

10/5/2007 10:21:51 AM
I just upped the first song I ever wrote

10/2/2007 9:13:54 AM
I bought a resonator guitar yesterday!

9/26/2007 3:44:33 PM
Hop On Pop planning to record again in the near future!

9/25/2007 9:05:27 AM
New station -- BlergleFlorp

9/10/2007 1:29:16 PM
Anyone ever organize a Benefit concert?

9/10/2007 10:40:31 AM
Why I love IAC

9/7/2007 12:25:30 PM
A universal invitation to all you IACers

9/6/2007 11:45:35 AM
Drop me a line to see HoP live on TV

9/5/2007 9:44:57 AM
What was your FIRST gig?

8/31/2007 8:44:47 AM
It's my 10-year wedding anniversary!!!

8/28/2007 9:52:21 AM
Another community for IACers to take advantage of....

8/23/2007 9:18:33 AM
You know what pisses me off?

8/20/2007 3:48:31 PM
The next logical step for IAC? Their own LABEL!

8/15/2007 3:16:47 PM
CHICAGO!!! I'm calling to you!

8/9/2007 10:27:43 AM
Updated daily: What is Todd listening to today?

8/7/2007 8:12:39 AM
Anybody in Chicago wanna play with me?

8/3/2007 9:57:52 AM
I decided that i LIKE our album!

7/30/2007 3:11:33 PM
Finally got a MySpace page up!

7/30/2007 9:00:39 AM
Back from vacation -- and I'm not happy about it.

7/20/2007 12:13:29 PM
To those of you who have cover songs up here...

6/28/2007 8:26:02 AM
Anyone see the Paul Simon tribute on PBS last night?

6/19/2007 8:49:27 AM
Making "mixes" for friends... want a mix?

6/13/2007 12:08:35 PM
Is it me, or do you always see the same artists on the front page?

6/11/2007 8:52:21 AM
Perpetual member?

6/6/2007 1:45:44 PM
Just created a new, Live music-only station

5/25/2007 9:55:36 AM
Another site that I think many here could benefit from... JPFolks

5/18/2007 10:33:53 AM
I'll be playing a solo/acoustic show May 24.

5/17/2007 1:54:52 PM
What makes for a good cover song?

5/14/2007 3:49:49 PM
THE GOOD STUFF!!!!

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One time, when I was taking with the late Stanley Kubrick...

5/8/2007 9:25:49 AM
One World, One Music

5/1/2007 2:51:27 PM
What inspires me? What inspires you?

4/23/2007 9:41:25 AM
Autoplay: Good marketing, or just-plain annoying?

4/12/2007 2:45:13 PM
Getting airplay on our local station?

4/4/2007 2:53:54 PM
A special offer from Hop On Pop:

3/27/2007 11:56:06 AM
Calling Nick Lowe! Nick Lowe: you are being paged!

3/20/2007 10:43:42 AM
Back to the basement...

3/16/2007 9:18:05 AM
I'm playing a free acoustic show Sunday!

3/9/2007 2:32:17 PM
The change in season does something to me

3/6/2007 4:14:40 PM
A crazy, all-over the place mix for you

2/5/2007 8:39:15 AM
Um.. Prince at the Super Bowl... WOW!

2/2/2007 10:14:55 AM
Is there any way to convert from .m4a to .mp3 on a Mac?

1/31/2007 8:48:40 AM
Allow me to rephrase: MY STATION NEEDS SONGS!!!

1/30/2007 2:13:06 PM
The Demonstration Station!!!

1/17/2007 4:12:28 PM
The WGN vid has been taken down.

1/8/2007 12:14:06 PM
I finally got our TV performance up on the web!!!

9/25/2006 10:22:55 AM
All I want is to be heard...

7/17/2006 9:07:29 AM
Hop On Pop is on the Hitline.



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Hop On Pop

11/9/2009 9:29:34 AM ---- Updated 11/9/2009 9:35:19 AM

Is the CD dead? Am I wasting my money?
Seriously.
My label is no longer investing in pressing of CDs; he claims that it's throwing money into the fire. A waste.

I mean, I'll be available on iTunes and eMusic, but personally, as a musician, if I don't have that physical document in my hand, I feel like my time in the studio has been something of a waste. And I cannot afford to press vinyl LPs. That's for sure.

So... my new album will be a (very) short run of 500 that I'll be paying for, myself. The label will be helping me with distribution, logistics, and promotion. Plus, I'll have the clout of being associated with an established "label", no matter how small that is.

Are you all pressing discs? Are you BUYING them? Or is it all downloads, these days? (Insert ball bearings joke here, Fletch fans.) Are you even buying downloads or are you getting them for free, through torrents, blogs and whatnot?

This could have gone into my "recording Updates" blog, but I think it addresses a wider issue, and I would like more to comment. So... here we are.

Eh?


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Hop On Pop

11/9/2009 9:39:08 AM ---- Updated 11/9/2009 9:42:48 AM


A broke one.
And I am on only an album-by-album contract with them. It's a friend that owns the label, but he has an established name in the Power Pop genre (at least locally) and is willing to help out with his contacts, promotion, and distribution, and everything else that I mentioned above that I don't have much time for.

He understands that I could be shopping around, and wouldn't hold it against me. But I am pretty certain that there are no labels out there that are interested in a "band" that consists of just a single guy: a married father of 2, who is not willing to leave his family to go out on tour and promote the damn thing. ESPECIALLY since nobody is buying physical product anymore.

But you did not answer the original question, Larree...


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Kevin White

11/9/2009 9:43:33 AM


Yes, for the most part, it's a waste ... UNLESS you're out playing live and selling them at gigs. Then the investment might pay back.

In the meanwhile, design your packaging, burn a few on your computer and have about 10 or so to go out via internet a/o other side sales.

But 500 to 1k? Coasters ... unless you're gigging steadily.


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Hop On Pop

11/9/2009 9:51:49 AM ---- Updated 11/9/2009 9:55:36 AM


Yes, for the most part, it's a waste ... UNLESS you're out playing live and selling them at gigs. Then the investment might pay back.

I am going to play some local shows maybe a couple out-of-town, through some contacts that I've made.

But, you see, live I play solo and acoustic (maybe solo/electric). So it sounds NOTHING like the record, where I have a full band playing with me on most of the tracks. (Or at least an electronic facsimile, thereof.)

False advertising?

I am going the internet promotion route: here, a couple other sites, and radio, if I can. Also, as many reviews as I can get.

Yeah, I know that internet promotion will most-likely yield internet-type electronic sales, right? But that's all I got. Like I said, I simply cannot leave the wife and kids behind to go touring.

But, you think that the physical copies despite any electronic/mp3 sales that I achieve will just sit there, huh?

I'm thinking that it's like having your own website. Despite having a MySpace (or IAC) page as your main promotional tool, you NEED your own domain for anybody to take you seriously. Just like I'm thinking that you'll need physical product.

It's a clout thing.
Or, is it an ego thing? A fetish? An obsession/compulsion?

EDIT:
And, for the record, I have maybe bought 1 or 2 songs as downloads, EVER! The rest I have purchased on CD or LP. I don't even own an mp3 player (those downloads I do have, I listen to on my computer at work.)


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Jeff Allen Myers

11/9/2009 12:27:45 PM


I am on a Christmas Album for charity this year, I recorded "The First Noel" The Album will be sold as a download only, the artwork and liner notes will be downloadable as well with a three to four page booklet with inserts.

The Album can then be burned to disc by the purchaser, and the artwork inserted in a jewel case.

This is the way to go if you want to make any money. As for you Todd, I would do the full CD thing, you owe it to yourself. I would set it up to be sold as a download as well.

Most music is being purchased as downloads today, its a fact.....is it the best? No, but that is what is happening in the market.

As for the IPOD? I understand Larees; disgust ...however,it is how I listen to music...I am willing to sacrifice a bit for the convenience and organization. With the right set up, it sounds pretty damn good too. You can disgree all you like Laree, thats cool...but they are my ears and, no offense I don't care what your opinion is on the matter, as you probably don't care for mine (I am anticipating a rant here :)

Todd, the Ipod and the like are tailor made for you and your extensive library. You can call up a song in seconds, they can be simultaneously organized by Genre, artist, Alphabetized, etc.

I understand there is bit of a sacrifice, but the convenience is worth it. And I might add, there is no reason you can't still have the "Hi Fi" set up. So to all who resist it , that is a personal decision. Most people never had great Hi equipment to begin with, so it;s really not a huge loss. Most never cleaned their records, so they were full of scratches and noise. The MP3 is pristine...

Good Luck with the release Todd...

Jeff


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11/9/2009 12:35:32 PM


I suppose I don't regret printing out 1000 of my first CD but I still have about 700 of them in my closet.


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satch

11/9/2009 12:49:23 PM


We've almost sold out of our 2nd run of a thousand copies of our first album "Glitttering Cities" and are thinking about going for another thousand... our second album "Ravensong" has sold well through the summer and we will need a reprint of that sometime next year. And we have started to record our third, we will finish it over the winter, in the knowledge that all those people who bought our first two CD's have enjoyed them enough to buy our next offering.

But - and it is a serious factor - you need to be gigging regularly and at different places, different towns and cities and festivals, because if you don't gig a lot you will end up like Scott, with a pile of CD's in your cupboard. You sure as heck won't sell many through iac, or any other omd!


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satch

11/9/2009 12:59:55 PM


AND, when you gig, you need to have ready-made business cards with your web site address on them, so that you can give them out to everyone who doesn't buy a CD at the gig - and make sure people can buy your CD's right off your own web site. For some reason, people trust an artists own web site more than any omd site, more even than CDBaby! And that way, you get (almost) all of the dosh too.


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Kevin White

11/9/2009 1:53:33 PM


Satch is right.

If it were me, I'd not do it.

A "few" shows isn't going move that amount of product.


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Auset

11/9/2009 1:58:12 PM


what a great question...

we were signing papers for our house refi today, and in misc. conversation, our 40-yr-old loan consultant, out-of the-blue said "I love iTunes for listening to samples, but rarely will buy a song. There's nothing like pulling out liner notes, pictures, words, holding them in your hand". I AGREE 100000%.

We made 1000 for our first run of our debut EP, gave away over 600 and sold the rest. We've been out of stock for over a year now, and have missed tons of p/r opportunities by not having something physical to sell. It is a world of instant gratification... if folks are already online, they may be the ones who purchase downloads... but if their at a show, they want something in their hand right then.

Best way to go now is simply, eco. get em in paper packaging, include lyrics and a link online to print lyrics in larger format. A thin enough package can easily fit into a CD-book, etc.

We're finishing the remix and remastering of our debut EP, getting ready to order.. AND into our 2nd project... definitely getting physical product.

my 2 cents.


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LyinDan

11/9/2009 3:02:39 PM


I like CD's, even though most of my listening is to the MP3's ripped from them. I think of CD's as high quality backup. I do also like to hold it and look at it :)

I'll admit many CD's I've bought in the past several years have been some of the people on this very site, and I will buy them in support of those artists. (Don't tap me for it right now, though, I have other Christmas lists :) )


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Kevin White

11/9/2009 4:40:15 PM


One can always re-purpose them as ninja stars ...


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My-T-Hi

11/9/2009 7:31:10 PM


Back in 1981 my first band pressed our own 7" and distributed it through Fast Records. I think we pressed 500, then we did it again a year later.
I'm not sure how many were sold as the record stores did a sale or return thing where they don't pay anything unless it's sold. I think my brother still has a hundred or so of each 7". We sold 10 or so at a re-union gig we did last year..... I'm glad we pressed them.

Now back to 2009... I burn my band's CDs on a PC in batches of 10 to 20, and sell them at gigs. That keeps initial costs low, and I don't end up with several hundred CDs. The packaging doesn't look as good as if I got 500 or 1,000 done but I can sell them to our fans cheaper, and make new CDs more regularly on a budget, so I think that is offering some other advantages to our fans.

On the other hand the band I play drums for went for the 1,000 package, and a bank loan...His CD looks much more professional than mine.... it even has a bar code..... but then again, do I need a bar code?

I agree that a physical product still has it's place, to sell at gigs, and to give to your friends for christmas or something.


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LyinDan

11/9/2009 7:53:37 PM


There's something about vinyl...I have a lot of it :)

Costs of burning a group of few at a time may be lower, but the longevity of burned CD's is still in question. What if, thirty years from now, your heirs can't play them? All kinds of factors weigh in here, heat, sunlight, etc. It's immediate satisfaction, though, and being able to make CD's on your puter is great. One thing you might consider if you're doing them in small batches is to make one at a time, and burn your signature Lightscribe into each one with a date...now, that's something you can't get mass produced. Also, you have to consider the longevity of the burner you use for making these...cheap burners have gotten pretty shitty, and you'll have to replace them fairly often.

I think pressed CD's have more lifetime...want yours to last 100 years? Yeah, I know, other media will be along then, but still...a genuine copy of the Magna Carta on parchment is worth something, no?

It sort of depends on the worth of the source material. If yours is worthwhile...100 years on a pressed CD has it's merits.


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niteshift

11/9/2009 8:24:42 PM


If you're not giging, then it's probably a waste. There are companies that do short runs though. But , being an album, it's woth running off 50-100 copies for promos and the like.

cheers, niteshift


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Auset

11/9/2009 9:46:19 PM


yep LD, definitely the difference between duplicated and replicated is longevity. duplicates are cheaper and don't have the same life span. for cd runs, we replicate.

and i agree Larree... vinyl RULES!!!! not only the sonic warmth and lushness, but time limitation!!! I don't get folks who make 15+ song cds... no one has that kind of attention. our next record is gonna be 9 songs, and yes, we're gonna press some too.


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Bob Elliott

11/9/2009 10:20:42 PM


I use light scribe to put art work and titles right on the cd. Costs about 90 cents, but I make them as I need them.

Then I tell the audience I have cd's for free in the case. They tip an average of five bucks per cd, my tips are way higher when I bring a bunch of cd's, and I've never lost money this way, surely have made some this way.

But I only make as many as I need, so I like that control, I never extend my finances, and I can always make more.

I wish I could do it with covers, but that makes it cost a bit too much, so I just try to design the cd face in a way I can dig it.

This method has helped me put a lot of cd's out into the world.

Live is where cd's move, internet is not.

I have the same issue as you that what I play live as a solo guy is very different than what is on the cd's, but whatever. I stand behind both.

But I think it will be good for me when I finish this demo of my solo show, because then that would be available at shows, too, and is probably what they're looking for.


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never never band

11/9/2009 11:39:01 PM


I've made 2 CDs with lots of art and a barcode, we used to get them printed by DCODATA for just over a buck each for 2000.

but fuck that, CD baby sold about 150, we sold all the rest ourselves or gave them away...

now I make CDs on my desktop, simple little paper liner.
I sell em for $5 at my solo gigs, I usually sell half a dozen, and they are more like a business card than a CD really, they have my contact info and I do get gigs from them.
Plus I get another $25 or $35 a gig from selling em.

heh..

this month I have a plan to make 200 CDs of my solo stuff in simple paper liners with all my contact info and give them all away!
During the Film Festivals and the Art Festivals, I have 2 local businesses and 3 coffe shops that are willing to put them by the register.
Free NEVER NEVER BAND CDs!!!!!

HA HA HA!!!



I'm gonna be rich I tell ya...RICH!!!!


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Duane Flock

11/10/2009 12:49:05 AM


I make my own CD's 10-20 at a time and take them with me when I gig. You can set up your own artwork, and avery has a program for any printer. You can even buy printable CDs too! Don't use the stick on labels because they tend to get stuck in peoples CD players, (which really may not be such a bad thing). hahahaha
When you buy everything in bulk, it's cheaper. Each CD cost me @ $1.00

Being that I manufacture my own CDs, I can make what I need and how I want to make them for any occasion (demos-freebies-ect.)
itunes may be the way to go for getting yourself out there, but when you need a disc, hell, do it yourself............. Shit, we do everything else ourselves anyways!


D.


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listener

11/10/2009 1:28:57 AM


I tend to agree with Jeff, if you have a specialist CD - like Christian/Christmas, Kids stuff, Memory Lane, Charity, Novelty etc them you can find the GIFT market online.


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Conversation Suicide

11/10/2009 4:54:18 AM ---- Updated 11/10/2009 4:56:01 AM


My answer to this blog title's question is NO.

Play LIVE a lot. Don't just be a studio Indie Artist. And have merch at those gigs, including your
CDs.

I dig your music, and live performances I've heard, and I know MANY others will too.

-my two cents


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Steve White

11/10/2009 12:13:00 PM


Hi there!

The way I see it is CD's will be gone soon and it will all be on the download side of things. I'm sure CD sales will still be out there but memory units that play MP3's in the car will be the next big thing or MP4's as that is getting pretty big now too.

Steve


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Jesse Adams

11/10/2009 12:33:30 PM


CD's are not dead.


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Product Recall

11/10/2009 1:50:52 PM


Cd's are dying a slow death its true. Downloads are where its at. It's just so easy and convenient, its all about tracks too, not whole albums which is a shame, will this mean the end of well structured album? Will the CD turn into flash cards?

Again gigs are where cd's are real, because they have just heard and felt real music, its an actual product its a real thing it's a person wanting to take that experience home with them. It's a moment.

Getting the boxes of our disc's was just thhe


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Product Recall

11/10/2009 1:56:48 PM


Cd's are dying a slow death its true. Downloads are where its at. It's just so easy and convenient, its all about tracks too, not whole albums which is a shame, will this mean the end of well structured album? Will the CD turn into flash cards?

Again gigs are where cd's are real, because they have just heard and felt real music, its an actual product its a real thing it's a person wanting to take that experience home with them. It's a moment.

Getting the boxes of our disc's was just the greatest feeling ever.

I got a fucking record y'all


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Product Recall

11/10/2009 1:56:54 PM


Cd's are dying a slow death its true. Downloads are where its at. It's just so easy and convenient, its all about tracks too, not whole albums which is a shame, will this mean the end of well structured album? Will the CD turn into flash cards?

Again gigs are where cd's are real, because they have just heard and felt real music, its an actual product its a real thing it's a person wanting to take that experience home with them. It's a moment.

Getting the boxes of our disc's was just the greatest feeling ever.

I got a fucking record y'all


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Tom O'Brien

11/10/2009 3:00:33 PM


I agree that it sure is nice to have a physical thing that you can hold in your hand and read lyrics and liner notes and such. As long as there's tech around to play them on, you can have them forever. But I still have boxes of CDs in the garage and looking back, should have never pressed them without a business plan firmly in place first. You're talking about a product that you're going to sell - it may not be big business, but it's business.

If it's music that's important, just burn what you need as you go. I don't think making pro replications is usually a good bet.


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Austn

11/10/2009 4:34:45 PM


Hey guys U all R 4getting what CDs,cassettes, vinyls, 8 tracks have been...It's been a way for us, as Rtist & fans to "TIME" capulize our projects & works so we keep organized...relate to an artist time peroid...Then we create best of 1, and best of 2...or captured "LIVE"...N the past the big acts went on "TOUR" 2 promote the album sales and that was where the money was, the show was the Xpense to get the album sales...Presently, mp3's and downloads has had the effect of reversing this...with millions of listeners walking 'round with 100's of Rtist and 1000's of songs N their shirt pocket that they may have listened to once???!!!??? only the acts selling 'nuff downloads can afford to put on a "BIG" show with "BIG" ticket prices and that's where the money is (para, T-shirt,CD promo sales)...U still need a barcode or IRSC code to have product capabile of being worthy...most sites or OMD's need this to B Legit...& then they need to B organized so listeners can find it & then buy it, so until somebody comes up with a better "TIME" reference organiZer ...CD's R it... but 1000's of copies on hand,????unless UR one of "BIG" shows the answer is NO, unless U just got the money to spend................


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11/10/2009 7:10:20 PM ---- Updated 11/10/2009 7:20:40 PM


Everything Kevin and Satch and several others said, plus...

To answer the original question directly, yes - the CD is dead, in the form that we were led to expect and we've been clinging on to in case the whole mp3 downloading thing turned out to be a flash in the pan. But no, it's not dead, it's just changed jobs.

I reckon we have to start looking on physical CDs (and, once the price comes down a bit further, USB sticks) as essential merchandise/promotional stock. The same already goes for vinyl, when it's available.

People do buy CDs off artists they feel personally connected with. I'm sure I wrote about this on someone else's blog recently, but since I can't remember whose, here it is again... Every single one of the CDs I've bought in the past few years has been either at a show I've been to or directly from an artist I know.

I believe charging for downloads is a losing battle on two fronts - firstly most stuff is freely available online in one form or another and secondly if it weren't, nobody would know about it in the first place. If the international collection agencies have any sense at all, and I know that one or two of the people who work for them do, they will stop throwing money into persecuting impecunious music fans and use those resources to consolidate their position on collecting licence fees from online distributors like Spotify, Youtube, MySpace and the rest. This is already beginning to happen and I believe it's a far more sensible option than the old order that the RIAA has been trying to prop up. Maybe we will all end up contributing a fixed fee to the collection agencies via our ISP - in my view this would be a sensible way to go.

So aside from live performance fees the real income that we are likely to be able to expect as artists will be [a] publishing/mechanical/performance royalties from live performances, online and broadcast plays; [b] at-gig and online merchandising revenue and [c] licensing fees if we are lucky enough to get our music picked up by film or TV.

And as so many others have pointed out, the only way to spread the word for real is by doing live gigs, where there is generally a good chance you could make back some or all of your CD production costs in physical sales. This is how a large number of friends of mine do it, including many who have had their brushes with fame and still more who never will, but who are still able to sustain a modest living out of plying their craft.


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Slimdog Productions

11/10/2009 9:19:03 PM


Todd, the cd is not completely dead. Like people above have stated before, you can sell them to fans at your live gigs and if you want to put your material in a local store, cds are perfect for that. Believe it or not, vinyl records are making a comeback in Hip Hop. To test the market at your local staores, get some cds made at places like disc makers, where you can do 20-50 cds if you like and put them in the stores to see if they sell....


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11/12/2009 4:59:32 AM ---- Updated 11/12/2009 6:58:04 AM


Oh my peeps, CDs are STILL important for promotion, and for the average fan at a show out there. As well as for using as a business card, as most of us seem to agree upon. CD still viable...

Product Recall has a fuckin' SWEET-ass CD deal with Romulus X Records UK, wherein they make 80% of profit (after covering production costs), and Kenny Colgate, the fearless leader, and label exec, makes 20% of ALL CD sales. They still own their material, and licensing rights, and Kenny & Romulus X Records gets a small 15% licensing fee for all digital distribution of mp3s, etc, while they get 85%. Kenny owns the masters, and THEY own the music, and are not prohibited from distribtuting it themselves, or finding other avenues of digital distribution.

I haven't heard of their music being licensed for Video Games or cartoons, or FILMS (even underground would be GREAT exposure), but they DO have tons of digital outlets, and I HAVE to share these TWO cool stories:

1) Both Kenny and School of Product Recall want me on their label, and to play bass with PRODUCT RECALL. Been in contact with both of these folks for 2 years now. It's REAL, and we're gearin' up for the BIG MOVE in the next few months, to try and get to the UK by FALL of 2010. School, and possibly other members (like POP and BEEF) of Product Recall, plan to be in our underground film: ALL HALLOWS EVE 2010. Stay tuned.

2) I've been disecting their music like I never had before, in order to appreciate fully and learn the damn songs. I gotta say, even though I've been a fan for over 2 years, School on guitar, Pop on vocals and Kenny Colgate on BASS was a bit of Genius. It's OH SO Clear to me now why Product Recall's FUCK FUCK I've got a MENTAL came in 3rd in HARD ROCK/METAL for the year of the INDIE contest, on IAC. Frankly, their music is a well orchestrated and VERY catchy, HARD and melodic mix of PUNK/Metal/Funk/GRUNGE/Screamo and killer fuckin' Rock and Roll Side Show!

THE BEST part, Todd, when I got their CD in the mail, I realized it was as sweetly packaged, as an Indie Label like FAT WRECK CHORDS or SUB-pop even.

AND in order to better learn the tunes, on a crazy whim, I used my "mobile" to go to AT&T's MUSIC site for tunes for my cell phone. THEY were UP in there, with the MAINSTREAM Biggies !!!! Downloading it to the phone was a thing of beauty, and I haven't found a person yet who wasn't impressed by that. Even an INDIE label, like KENNY's can do WONDERS for promotion, and the potential generation of revenue. These boyz wanna do what they love, as long as possible (just like me, and most of the rest of us on IAC), but they won't complain if they can actually QUIT their DAY JOBS in the future....for FULL TIME careers in MUSIC!!

BOTTOMLINE Todd:
Be GOOD to the label first willing to promote you, that you've got going already there in Chicago. Loyalty goes a LONG fuckin' way in forming ties that can help promote Hop on Pop, and your other great music in Cash Cow and Chew Toy.
YES to CDs, and YES to playing LIVE SHOWS, as OFTEN as you and your indie label/promoters can MUSTER.

and of course, ALWAYS work on your craft, practice, write new material and KEEP ON pursuing ALL avenues of digital distribution.

ROCK on TODD, and keep gettin' those GIGS! Can't wait to hear your CD in it's entirety!

-My phifty quid


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never never band

11/12/2009 2:33:18 PM


hey, my Give Your CD away for FREE idea is catching on!

there are now 4 local musicians who want to do this.
where gonna make a display box kind of like those Putomyo boxes at the coffe shops.
were gonna make 5 track CDs with simple paper liners that are like a business card with contact and booking info.

and we're gonna give em away!
And 2 of us have ordained ourselves as the quality police for the project..
No crap allowed, the idea is to create a small collective of serious composers and performers.

This town is perfect for this because we get entertainment professionals through here all the time, Producers, directors, musicians, actors, etc. I think this would only work in a town like this that is a destination place for wealthy connected entertainment people.
It may not do any good anyway, but it sounds like fun...


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11/13/2009 1:57:35 AM



Yup. In total agreement with Never Never Band, especially for the LOCAL scene:

Give away of CD's, as an introduction to you and your MUSIC,
is a MUST. At shows, and to anybody that expresses interest, and ALL the FUCK over your li'l or big town.


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11/13/2009 12:56:43 PM


When you walk into a shop where they are selling CD's (actual CD's) tell me what you see.

I will tell you:

They are selling CD's to kids under 16 years old.
They are selling CD's to adults over 35 years old.

All else is sold (by and large) over the internet, maybe through amazon.

So unless you are Jonas Bros or Michael Bubbleboy, you are probably more likely to sell online.

time to get a good lawyer


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Pinedog

11/13/2009 6:12:58 PM ---- Updated 11/13/2009 6:32:56 PM


Good thread. Kevin and Satch are right on. I did 100 copies first cd...too many. Did 50 this time...seems just right but at almost $4 per unit, i'll probably never break even. Without gigging and live sales, you had best have some major promotion. The whole sales thing is very depressing but it serves to humble you and make you realize that when all is said and done, you had best be making music that is fun for you and that you can be proud of...because consumers have been and will continue to be smothered in an endless sea of musical offerings. My new Cd is better than my first i think...but in the 4 years that elapsed, things have changed considerably. I bet i will sell fewer physical units. Cd's aren't dead...but they are dying. My good friend owns a music store. He said he sold 20-30 Cd's a day "back in the day"...now it's 2-3...and he says the same as you...kids buy... over 35 buy..in between download freebies or MP3's. From here on in, i'm going Indie totally and doing it all at home on an "as needed" basis. More fun anyway. Who says all album covers have to be the same? Got a big fan? Personalize a copy for them. Doing graphics is as much fun as recording!


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11/15/2009 1:05:51 PM


Despite all the worthwhile business advice here, there is another perspective that the artist should create what he wants to create, what he feels like creating, and regardless of the marketability factors, the CD is sort of a good pinnacle to strive for.

It's really hard to say what form the music industry will take 5 or 10 years from now, it all changes very quickly. But one thing there always has been is the record, starting with album format to the present. Perhaps one day in another form, that will be central again.


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Kevin White

11/15/2009 6:12:18 PM ---- Updated 11/15/2009 6:23:06 PM


Whatever that form may be, Scott ... and I agree w/ you ... it will be digital based.

So it was my birthday yesterday and I got a surround sound system from Denon/Boston Acoustics to use in the studio. I spent today setting it up. I've no clue how to use it yet ... but I learned something as I explored the new digital possibilities.

There are digital formats that stream 6 or more separate channels ... the basis of the 5.1 mixing paradigm. MP3s codecs are being created for 5.1 that will be freely distributed ...

Just like all formats evolve, it will be digital where the world will turn. It's a bit the wild frontier ... so beware of beta vs vhs wars ... and don't jump until a clear leader is established ... but ...

My mind boggles at the creativity that is even capable and cresting the horizon line. So yes, the CD is a method of content delivery ... that like vinyl, has moved on to its place in history.

Yet ...

The colors in my crayon box just expanded, and yes ... I'm excited at the possibilities for future creations. It's the process of creating that excites me, and we're on the cusp of all sorts of potential.

It's not going to stay stereo per se. There will be enhancements.

R.I.P. C.D.

K-


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Hugh Hamilton

11/16/2009 8:27:12 AM ---- Updated 11/16/2009 8:30:25 AM


While acknowledging that piracy is killing the "established" music industry in general and CD sales in particular it doesn't seem to me that CDs are exactly dead. However...my primary points of reference are a few friends who are longtime veterans of the road, the kind of people you've heard on the radio for decades and who succeeded in having a "music career" with momentary prominence but who are not superstar wealthy. A basic formula which has been shared with me is "hope the tour itself breaks even and make money on the merchandise sales". So...like you, Todd, the bitter reality of the enormous challenge and near impossibility of shooting for even a break-even commercial success IN THE ABSENCE OF TOURING has become clear to me...

Case study: I have a friend who professionally pressed 500 or 1000 copies of his most recent CDs for 2 bucks each. They look good, sound good, and he sells them at gigs. He also sent a few in to cdbaby and accepted the CD manufacturer's online distribution scheme (included in the pressing price). Between travel and various expenses IT IS THE MERCH that provides net income for true musical road warriors...

Let's face it...producing something compelling enough for people to spend money on is a real challenge, whatever the media. I'm both frustrated by that fact, and uplifted by the accessibility of affordable gear to make the stuff in the first place...

Todd! Bottom line - FOLLOW YOUR BLISS!

:)
H


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The Man With No Band

11/16/2009 8:48:28 AM


Who said Cd's aren't cool ...


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11/18/2009 2:53:43 AM



heh....

nice one Sam.

They look great Stapled to a wall full of gig posters too....

film at 11:00 ....


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Pinedog

11/18/2009 11:53:27 AM


We all know in hard times, people only spend their money on absolute essentials.

My record company, Lean Dog Records, has the solution!

Edible Cd's!!


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Monkey68

11/18/2009 9:38:18 PM


For me, it's accepting the long-term state, that there won't be a majority physical transfer medium - Super 8, Vinyl, Cassette, Minidisc... Can anyone suggest that CD, DVD and Blue-ray won't go the same way? But the loss of majority status doesn't suggest there won't be a minority interest in the medium - witness vinyl junkies who never even migrated to CDs.

From my point of view, I'm happy when anyone listens to my music regardless of media.

And, as for providing music at gigs, it's not that far in the future when a memory stick with multimedia pre-loaded, and connection to bespoke web resources based upon unique access codes stored on the memory stick are THE thing to be selling at gigs (in silico memory is coming down in price all the time).

But, FWIW, I would still buy one of your CDs if I saw you live, Todd!

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