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9/22/2019 5:06:14 PM
New Spotlight Interview of Elmer and the Ceramic Trees

9/21/2019 11:00:59 PM
attention everyone

9/6/2019 4:39:32 PM
Tell us about your overall social media involvement

8/31/2019 10:55:04 AM
How to create your own long-playing record (album) (DMD) for your page at IMP

8/30/2019 11:24:23 AM
some great songs arriving at our site these days

8/21/2019 4:28:53 AM
some stuff about IMP you might not know

8/13/2019 8:12:21 PM
an update on my musical stuff

8/11/2019 3:05:51 AM
Ever hear the Tielman Bros?

8/6/2019 7:11:53 PM
When You Put Tree Rings on a Record Player, The Sound Is Unexpectedly Beautiful

8/3/2019 6:55:23 PM
Station Blurb of the Week

7/30/2019 2:25:34 PM
Helping artists whenever you can

7/14/2019 7:41:45 AM
aspirations in songwriting

7/9/2019 9:22:38 AM
David Bowie's death album

7/5/2019 1:16:30 PM
Last call for donations

6/23/2019 3:42:45 AM
Rolling Thunder Revue on Netflix

6/6/2019 6:56:40 PM
RIP Dr. John

5/30/2019 4:45:38 AM
What was your first instrument?

5/26/2019 4:15:38 PM
fear of flying

5/21/2019 7:43:35 PM
I had an idea for a group songwriting project, please read..

5/18/2019 11:36:04 PM
I feel so fortunate..

5/3/2019 10:05:06 AM
Who are your musical heroes?

4/16/2019 12:16:51 PM
on writing lyrics

4/4/2019 6:49:21 AM
Developing Active People

4/1/2019 12:26:25 AM
wow, a half hour ago I just signed a big money record deal.

3/19/2019 8:03:55 AM
Facebook is anti-artist.

3/17/2019 2:37:33 PM
RIP Dick Dale

2/24/2019 3:19:51 PM
sleeper hooks in songs

1/23/2019 9:16:14 PM
Hear the whole show here from this thread.

1/14/2019 3:07:17 AM
2 more days left to vote in Golden Kayaks

12/19/2018 1:58:43 AM
What aspects of a song do you value most?

12/17/2018 1:52:01 PM
Indie Song of the Year Nominees

12/13/2018 5:45:13 PM
want to thank the community

12/9/2018 10:55:31 AM
only a couple days left to get your Golden Kayak nominations in

12/4/2018 10:32:18 PM
Type your life story in 100 words or less.

12/4/2018 5:59:01 PM
Do you believe in UFOs?

11/23/2018 9:54:39 AM
indie management horror stories

11/17/2018 10:34:27 AM
some easy ways to take on Golden Kayak nominations

11/16/2018 3:30:01 AM
Want to see something utterly amazing?

11/15/2018 2:14:00 PM
RIP Roy Clark

11/5/2018 2:30:03 PM
Deadline for songs to be uploaded to qualify for Golden Kayaks - 11-11-18 at 12 am ET

10/25/2018 5:03:11 PM
sometimes I think..

10/22/2018 5:40:00 AM
Golden Kayaks coming in November

9/28/2018 9:01:01 PM
RIP Marty Balin

9/27/2018 3:21:41 PM
Womankind came to the fore today.

9/25/2018 6:01:36 PM
How to PIMP UP your IMP artist page!

9/24/2018 1:50:01 PM
interesting new Beatles release coming

9/21/2018 7:27:25 AM
Steve Ison and Azwel

9/18/2018 7:00:29 PM
so what's new?

9/10/2018 10:43:27 AM
RIP Rod Underhill

9/1/2018 8:47:34 PM
NFL fans check in here

8/31/2018 3:00:04 AM
I need some promo ideas on this..

8/18/2018 11:46:27 AM
Anybody got anything exciting going on?

8/16/2018 12:08:14 PM
The King and Queen both died on the same day.

8/14/2018 4:20:05 PM
Is melody passé?

8/13/2018 12:02:48 PM
The Queen of Soul is gravely ill.

8/12/2018 10:41:34 AM
John Denver, Jim Croce, Harry Chapin. plane crash, plane crash, car crash. Which was the biggest loss?

8/9/2018 2:34:40 PM
What would you consider over the years as the perfect pop song?

8/2/2018 11:51:38 PM
David Crosby on paid streaming services

7/31/2018 7:02:42 AM
She walks all over you, you know she can

7/30/2018 2:45:34 PM
“You are what you settle for. You are only as much as you settle for.” - Janis Joplin

7/28/2018 12:27:40 PM
How do you start fresh when your past is strewn all around you?

7/15/2018 11:19:16 AM
racism

7/10/2018 4:46:38 AM
I'd like to hear details about everyone's creative process.

7/4/2018 6:29:15 AM
everybody please read

7/1/2018 3:33:44 PM
Neil Sedaka - songwriter

6/16/2018 3:49:04 PM
New support email, please file this so you have it.

6/14/2018 5:07:00 AM
Nobody noticed.

6/7/2018 6:48:05 AM
How much of a factor is an artist's looks in your appreciation of their live performances?

6/5/2018 6:11:06 PM
the need for critical opinions in music

6/5/2018 9:45:03 AM
Some "music lovers' are just too lazy to appreciate indie.

6/3/2018 9:11:17 AM
Frank Sinatra's letter to George Michael

5/26/2018 12:55:58 AM
I found this wild statement in a very obscure place on Neil Young's archive site.

5/13/2018 1:28:01 PM
outreaching

5/12/2018 7:34:33 PM
the best ever artist website

5/3/2018 11:57:47 AM
Great David Crosby Interview

5/1/2018 6:39:18 AM
the battle

4/24/2018 9:35:41 AM
some notes about the IMP player

4/6/2018 5:13:21 PM
My life basically starts today.

4/1/2018 4:56:11 PM
Lennon, Cobain and Jimi are all alive.

3/24/2018 9:19:25 AM
great new Neil Young interview

3/19/2018 7:51:27 PM
Is that Francesca on the Alfa Romeo commercial?

2/3/2018 7:19:51 AM
taking your songs to a publisher

1/22/2018 4:59:08 PM
The DMD (digital CD) now works for all artists!

1/14/2018 7:22:31 PM
The Golden Kayak Wall of Fame has been updated with the new winners.

1/14/2018 8:02:54 AM
How to listen to tonight's Golden Kayak broadcast at 5 PM ET (New York) time.

1/8/2018 10:12:20 AM
Oprah's speech last night at the Golden Globes was amazing, see it here

1/2/2018 8:27:18 AM
I'm proud of this

12/29/2017 10:05:50 PM
Indie Song of the Year - the Finals

12/18/2017 9:16:05 AM
It warms me

12/16/2017 9:37:03 AM
Nominations Closed for Golden kayaks

12/7/2017 4:37:21 PM
OMG I was so surprised to see this!!

12/2/2017 3:04:01 PM
Note to any artists or any others who are not thrilled with the choice of features here

12/1/2017 11:49:44 AM
A contender for the greatest indie song of all time..

11/27/2017 3:19:28 PM
2 weeks left to get your Golden Kayak nominations in.

11/22/2017 11:24:37 PM
apologies on behalf of IMP

11/15/2017 9:48:17 AM
The Indie Song of the Year Tourney for this year - please read..

11/5/2017 8:53:39 AM
an indie song that will run thru your head all day if you listen

11/5/2017 5:34:49 AM
Deadline for songs to be uploaded to qualify for Golden Kayaks - 11-11-17 at 12 am ET

10/29/2017 11:51:15 PM
new - front page ads

10/26/2017 9:40:22 AM
New Spotlight Interview with a majorly talented guy!

10/21/2017 4:53:31 PM
I'm starting to feel our gravitational pull again.

10/5/2017 3:56:26 PM
some stuff about this site that you may not know

8/19/2017 3:19:11 PM
Shades of the Righteous Bros on IMP?

8/1/2017 1:46:16 AM
IMP story blog contest, all please read..

7/18/2017 12:08:57 PM
so how does an artist get a new listener to click on a music link

7/18/2017 12:08:19 PM
Looking for volunteers regarding a committee that sets out to give IMP a presence at music trade shows

6/30/2017 2:28:07 AM
Everyone please read - How important is IMP to YOU?

6/29/2017 1:07:13 PM
Everyone please read - How important is IMP to YOU?

6/27/2017 11:48:30 PM
our friend Lesley is gone from IMP

6/19/2017 11:22:07 PM
Facebook is anti music artist in case you didn't know

6/9/2017 2:38:59 PM
the IMP in the room is you

6/1/2017 9:37:41 PM
announcement

5/19/2017 9:29:03 AM
Station managers, please read, a survey

5/18/2017 11:50:57 AM
RIP Chris Cornell

5/7/2017 4:51:23 AM
new Spotlight Interview with the overwhelming Motorbaby

4/28/2017 7:44:11 AM
artist communities

4/19/2017 5:15:01 AM
Indie artists are raisin' the bar these days, have you heard?

4/16/2017 12:20:17 PM
ok this is pretty funny

4/11/2017 5:32:33 AM
What are the factors involved that cause you to click on a song to listen to it? Everybody please comment.

4/2/2017 2:43:00 AM
New Spotlight Interview with the band Whitherward!

4/1/2017 4:44:14 PM
I love artists.

3/28/2017 9:12:39 PM
the elasticity of a song

3/28/2017 8:11:55 AM
one more note about the political pipeline

3/26/2017 10:52:54 PM
We have a new political forum, link above..

3/21/2017 6:08:43 AM
New Spotlight Interview with TonyGirl

3/19/2017 12:06:26 AM
We made a change in the song page.

3/12/2017 11:55:40 AM
What the world needs now

3/2/2017 2:25:15 AM
the red button on the front page works now

3/1/2017 5:15:54 PM
new video by MonaLisa Twins covers another Beatle song

3/1/2017 4:50:59 PM
What makes for the perfect pipeline topic?

2/21/2017 5:58:20 AM
Despair on Indie Avenue

2/20/2017 2:21:33 PM
update on site issue

2/17/2017 2:27:17 PM
We just had another correspondence from the server co.

1/25/2017 1:05:09 PM
New Spotlight Interview with James Stanley Howen

1/24/2017 11:32:02 AM
Anybody know some good songs with fiddles on IMP?

1/23/2017 1:05:01 PM
new realms in the arena of artist promotion..

1/22/2017 12:21:12 AM
Indie icon Ainjel Emme just posted an amazing new song related to the women's march

1/20/2017 7:14:37 PM
note for all

1/16/2017 2:30:05 PM
All Golden Kayak Winners check in here.

1/16/2017 6:13:29 AM
Miss the show last night? You can stream it now

1/13/2017 5:45:31 AM
Song of the Year is really close, please vote if you haven't.

1/11/2017 7:11:57 AM
Radio show announcing winners is THIS Sunday at 5:00 New York Time

1/11/2017 12:01:54 AM
David Crosby's new song is here now, on his page.

1/10/2017 1:18:42 AM
The Finals for the Indie Song of the Year are here!

1/5/2017 1:55:28 PM
Indie Music vs Indie Artist

1/2/2017 2:47:20 PM
I made a decision

1/1/2017 9:56:57 PM
You folks know there is a short url for IMP, right?

1/1/2017 12:57:40 PM
a funny story for yas

1/1/2017 7:01:00 AM
Semifinals Round for The Song of the Year Tourney

12/24/2016 6:25:48 PM
a new Spotlight Interview is right off the presses, it's Pancake Riot

12/24/2016 1:04:25 PM
Golden Kayak Voting Ballot - Please vote!

12/17/2016 12:22:15 PM
I love it but I hate it.

12/13/2016 11:16:44 PM
Golden Kayak Nominations closed - Song of the Year moves into next round, winners bracket.

12/7/2016 11:30:08 AM
5 days left for Golden Kayak Nominations, get them in please

12/6/2016 12:58:45 PM
new heat in Indie Song of the Year is up - Need more nominations for Golden Kayaks too!

12/3/2016 9:53:16 AM
Golden Kayak Nominations Form

12/2/2016 12:08:39 AM
need your Golden Kayak nominations soon! and don't forget to vote in the front page poll

11/29/2016 11:22:12 AM
How do we grow the indie culture?

11/28/2016 9:00:09 PM
a note about site issues

11/24/2016 10:01:07 PM
Time to start working on your Golden Kayak Nominations

11/23/2016 11:25:10 AM
new heat in Indie Song of Year is Up, Winner of Last Heat announced

11/18/2016 1:22:31 PM
Voting for Kayak song of the Year begins, please read..

11/10/2016 5:02:57 AM
so we're back up again

11/2/2016 1:49:58 PM
8 more days to upload songs that will be eligible for Golden Kayaks!!

10/12/2016 11:49:40 AM
Golden Kayaks coming up soon. To be eligible, a song must be uploaded before Nov 11, 12 AM.

9/25/2016 10:06:57 AM
announcement - we're discontinuing the Triple C Club

8/4/2016 5:07:52 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Neil w Young

7/16/2016 5:01:20 PM
paging Lyin Dan

7/10/2016 10:53:39 AM
hey station managers

7/8/2016 2:34:36 PM
Genre chart adjustment coming in next day

7/8/2016 6:25:36 AM
The Lady Voices of Indie DMD is still for sale

7/6/2016 1:54:25 PM
Artists with emotional energy

7/6/2016 6:20:40 AM
Can you folks help spread this around?

7/4/2016 4:07:45 AM
Happy INDIES Day!

6/21/2016 7:24:08 AM
Do you like rock festivals?

6/18/2016 5:09:50 PM
A note about the compilation charity DMD that Evie helped put together

6/17/2016 3:06:04 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Francesca Tamellini

6/13/2016 9:24:17 PM
Attn: New Feature!

6/12/2016 12:34:25 AM
re: the Triple C Club

6/7/2016 3:10:52 AM
new Spotlight Interview with DeMonicka!

5/31/2016 11:33:58 AM
New Spotlight interview with Denquar

5/30/2016 8:03:09 AM
There aren't as many indie bands out there as there used to be

5/22/2016 8:37:54 AM
Welcome to all the great new artists who are checking in today!

5/18/2016 11:04:55 PM
well today is the 1 year anniversary of indiemusicpeople.com

5/18/2016 3:12:54 PM
pipeline perks

5/15/2016 10:39:06 PM
a note about an adjustment we're making to the Stat Cave

5/12/2016 8:45:21 PM
Today was IMP's best day ever for traffic

5/12/2016 7:44:08 AM
the joy of being me - Gamers take note.

5/9/2016 6:34:39 AM
please remove the letters IAC from your stations and what not.

5/8/2016 10:41:30 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Chloe Collins!

5/3/2016 4:51:07 AM
Important note about the new front page, everybody read..

4/27/2016 6:28:12 PM
Another New Development at IMP! please read

4/26/2016 8:05:52 AM
People who make music, it's the very best part of them..

4/25/2016 11:59:26 AM
Have you started a station lately ?

4/21/2016 3:17:56 AM
response to music depends a lot on mood

4/19/2016 1:14:28 PM
Here's some good news..

4/19/2016 7:50:49 AM
a note to all about IMP and Facebook, please read..

4/6/2016 11:13:26 AM
RIP Merle Haggard

4/3/2016 10:08:58 AM
the volatility of listeners and the Surge Factor

4/2/2016 9:34:39 PM
Pipeline Radio Show hosted by Ken (Two Silo Complex) is this coming Wednesday night at 8 PM EDT

3/27/2016 6:16:01 PM
New Spotlight Interview with Ben Elliot

3/15/2016 4:23:43 PM
I had a thought

3/10/2016 1:22:52 PM
pipeline brainstorming session..

3/9/2016 1:39:17 PM
folks we need more songs - we're doing a group radio show from the pipeliners, please read..

3/8/2016 2:06:35 PM
idle chatter

3/6/2016 7:53:21 PM
an idea about how to bring non-artists listeners to IMP.

3/5/2016 9:28:28 AM
I.M.P. and the challenge of indies selling their music

2/21/2016 12:48:20 PM
Do you know any good indie songwriters who are not on IMP?

2/17/2016 7:31:23 AM
New Spotlight interview with Dave Elwert

2/17/2016 6:46:55 AM
looking for something to blow me away

2/5/2016 11:13:54 PM
stats issue

2/3/2016 10:54:53 PM
Mention IMP wherever you go on the web

1/28/2016 12:34:42 PM
2 new college stations added as affiliates for Kayak Big 25 show

1/28/2016 5:36:03 AM
What's your favorite indie song of all time other than your own?

1/27/2016 6:33:31 PM
planning your next musical move in public - please read..

1/25/2016 11:56:46 AM
We're looking for content for IMPeccable Radio

1/18/2016 12:41:08 PM
The Golden Kayak Wall of Fame has been updated

1/13/2016 3:17:58 AM
You're all invited to a party on Sunday

1/8/2016 12:57:05 PM
ok, Golden Kayak ballots due by MIDNIGHT PST TONIGHT!, Time to vote if you haven't yet.

1/4/2016 12:32:39 AM
IMP is the ticket.

1/3/2016 8:04:41 AM
reminders..

12/30/2015 2:07:25 PM
another quick note about Kayak voting

12/25/2015 4:16:54 AM
Finals Heat is up in Kayak Song of the Year - please vote

12/15/2015 2:52:52 PM
Golden Kayak Nominations extended - due by 12 AM 12-29

11/22/2015 6:19:21 AM
Got any masterpieces coming?? Now's the time, to be eligible for Golden Kayaks, songs must be on site before Dec 1st.

11/19/2015 2:00:22 PM
site outage

11/16/2015 1:09:05 PM
New Spotlight Interview with Azwel

11/12/2015 3:44:58 PM
State of the Pipeline ?

11/4/2015 12:35:06 PM
New Spotlight Interview with Time Cat

10/30/2015 1:12:52 PM
Operation Homecoming - pipeline regulars, please read..

10/27/2015 6:41:49 PM
New Spotlight Interview with Piranya

10/23/2015 2:06:27 PM
one of our artists has recently started doing live performances

10/22/2015 12:23:15 AM
Remember folks to take advantage of the Review/Commentary section

10/15/2015 12:03:46 PM
The Golden Kayaks are only a month and a half away

10/8/2015 5:08:09 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Alex Siegel

10/7/2015 12:30:13 PM
We just added 2 affiliates to our Kayak Big 25 network, from Canada and Africa

10/4/2015 4:25:46 AM
There's a new facebook page for our 24/7 Radio (IMPeccable Radio), like it if..

9/30/2015 9:36:46 PM
Some will think I'm foolish for typing this

9/26/2015 1:20:51 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Dead Bed Bad

9/22/2015 6:43:04 PM
OK, folks, it's "Start a New Station Week" at IMP, time to start a new station

9/22/2015 1:34:58 PM
What do the Netherlands, Costa Rica, Brazil, and Argentina have in common?

9/21/2015 1:53:55 PM
a special welcome to all the fabulous new artists on the site!

9/17/2015 8:06:39 PM
New Spotlight Interview with Bob Elliott

9/14/2015 12:34:20 PM
Do you remember the first song that in your youth captured your imagination?

9/13/2015 5:40:19 PM
how to post links on our 2 forums (pipeline and the R/C)

9/13/2015 8:52:27 AM
Could you give it a spin and put up a song in our Review/Commentary area?

9/11/2015 12:06:13 PM
looking for anybody here who loves indie gospel music

9/11/2015 12:18:38 AM
logo contest for Kayak Big 25 - any of you good at this sort of thing?

9/10/2015 7:52:41 AM
Feedback area is now Review/Commentary and IS ON FRONT PAGE - bottom left!

9/9/2015 9:37:24 PM
big announcement on Export Player, please read..

9/9/2015 9:02:28 PM
New Spotlight Interview with the one and only Zeeza

9/6/2015 2:37:10 AM
New Spotlight Interview with Soft Cactus

9/3/2015 6:45:34 AM
the latest project I'm working on..

9/3/2015 12:29:36 AM
you know what gets me down?

9/1/2015 3:26:30 AM
New Spotlight Interview - Ice Giants

8/25/2015 4:02:46 AM
crazy ramblings, read at your own risk

8/23/2015 1:44:02 PM
In news related to artists who are members here

8/16/2015 5:19:50 PM
Brand New Spotlight Interview with our own Steve Ison

8/13/2015 1:28:36 PM
more things all new artists should know

8/8/2015 4:40:30 PM
re: a songwriters' museum on this site?

8/1/2015 9:56:11 AM
Song blurbs on stations

7/26/2015 10:14:00 AM
asking for help for all on this matter

7/25/2015 6:33:10 AM
What bonds us all together?

7/23/2015 1:52:35 PM
Operation Banner Mania - everybody please read..

7/20/2015 10:28:25 PM
the you tube thread

7/15/2015 9:45:55 AM
site alumni week - please read..

6/26/2015 7:50:08 AM
Elvis "the King"'s last words were ?

6/20/2015 1:19:48 AM
the IMP late night club

6/16/2015 12:38:49 AM
a noteworthy new station to check out - Alltime Kayak Hits

6/14/2015 12:35:45 PM
discouraging news from the indie world

6/10/2015 1:56:05 AM
major investigative movie on Kurt Cobain coming out tomorrow, the 11th

6/4/2015 1:46:32 PM
I remember when they were just an indie :)

6/3/2015 12:04:32 PM
Things you can do at (for) IMP today

6/1/2015 12:03:56 PM
new Kayak Big 25 up.

5/21/2015 6:24:44 PM
a note about featured stations, please read, all station managers



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Scott

11/12/2015 3:44:58 PM

State of the Pipeline ?
air your issues here.


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11/12/2015 4:17:33 PM


I don't like Blu Ray.

It's garish and harsh.
Takes away all the Magic Of Movies for my money.

So, HEY MOVIE INDUSTRY!!!!
YEAH YOU HOLLYWOOD FOLKS!!!!

Do NOT Discontinue DVD's.

Or I Stop Watching Movies Altogether.
I Don't Like BLU RAY.

Can I make that any plainer?

I raise this point, Ladies & Gentlemen,
because recently, I've seen movies advertised
only as coming out on Blu Ray.
Maybe some people like that. I don't. I Want My DVDs.

Do Not Take DVDs Away, or I Boycott Movies For The Rest Of My Life.

I'm American Lesley Jane, Founder of the famous BEATLESEX,

and I not only approved, I wrote, this message. AND I MEAN IT TOO!

~L


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Scott

11/12/2015 6:31:07 PM


I was referring to issues concerning the pipeline. heh


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Bryon Tosoff

11/12/2015 7:15:46 PM


Well Scott,i dont have issues really because I actually think the activity has been decent. a number of newer people are getting involved and of course the main stalwarts come through frequently , I like the interaction on a number of the subjects. So comparatively speaking, it is better then it has been in years past, just needs more people jumping in ,and including those that lurk, and there are many, so I hope they come and join the party


So overall its decent, not rolling, but getting there.

But Are there issues? , or problems, things people may not like,do like, maybe I am off base, but dont you think it has improved? I think so.

bryon


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Stoneman

11/12/2015 9:34:20 PM


I think the Pipeline is doing just fine. There are some people gaming us with multiple silly pages that they post from. Also, there are a few people that seem to have negative opinions about almost everything. I have come to expect that from them though and it doesn't really bother me. It is a diverse world and some people like to stir the pot with sarcasm and stank attitudes. But for the most part there is a lot of positive activity. I suppose any kind of activity is a good thing. It has certainly been a lot more lively than in the past and there are a lot more people contributing than our usual core group. The content has been varied and interesting. We haven't had as many drive by promotions by artists that never participate in any discussions as we use to have.

So, overall, I would say that it is going in the right direction. Probably not as fast as we would hope but it is progressing.


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Scott

11/12/2015 10:54:37 PM


The reason I posted this is because I kind of stress out about it. It's hard for the balance to be right, and it often seems like some of our members have abandoned it. Only one day so far, a monday a few weeks ago, was it ever rolling the way I'd like to see it. I'm glad to hear you folks feel ok about it though. I wish I could figure out the magic formula to get new artists to post here more often though. Then we get artists like Bat Faced Girl who seem to like it but he's moved on now.


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Richard Scotti

11/13/2015 5:47:20 AM


Hearing from some new voices would be a nice change. I've contacted lot's of artists and bands on the site and they never reply to my messages. I don't have any answers on how we get more people to join in the conversation. But I'm always thinking about it. Eventually I know one of us will think of something.


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Bryon Tosoff

11/13/2015 6:51:27 AM


I think some of us get caught up in everyday life and things and are busy and then come back and do a little something cause we have it as our daily vitamin, or for some a weekly dose or for others maybe just a poke in and out as a lurker, maybe some leave a tidbit of what is happening in our life, what we are doing where we are going, but most of all I think we want to share some part of us and say, everything is going well or it kinda sucks. it is not always music of course and shouldn't be. I think maybe a few might think, man this is weird here, or, hey this is radically cool or others whoa, too much swearing, and maybe get offended , or perhaps some might lay big heavies and strange brew that may turn them off, but as you said, I have learned it is entertainment. like Channel Life, whats up today!


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Steve White

11/13/2015 7:38:13 AM


More non musicians would be nice.

Not having to type in html for your song to be posted here would also be nice.


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11/13/2015 7:50:39 AM ---- Updated 11/13/2015 7:53:48 AM


Oh issues regarding the Pipeline.

Well why didn't you say so?

Here I am going on about bloody Blu Ray vs DVDS (DVDS Wins, Every Time)

Okay.

Well no, I don't really have any issues with the Pipeline.
Okay, so sometimes inanimate (seemingly) objects,
such as, oh, French Fries, post and have a word...
Sometimes it's cartoon characters...
Bluto for instance... But as I can occasionally turn into Popeye The Sailor Man,
I should really expect that shouldn't I.

Also, who am I to split hairs? I channel a couple of pretty famous dead guys,
who have been known to post here as well, courtesy of me.
So really.... it's all good.

It would be nice, if when you put in a song url,
that it automatically becomes a link... that'd be nice certainly.

Anyway, I like the Pipeline...

And I certainly don't think it's a thing you should stress over, Scott.
Really. Of all the things there are to stress over in life.

In terms of getting more people to participate, artists and listeners alike,

well, as administrator, you could think up questions,
and ask them.. you know, pertinent interesting questions,
questions for listeners.... questions for artists....

If you ask them, they will come.

Also, is the matter of the more that's going on here,
the more interesting things being talked about,
the greater the likelihood of more participation happening.

There you are.

~Lesley Jane


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11/13/2015 7:52:47 AM


PS...

Yes, I know you did. "Why didn't you say so?"
was a bit of a facetious tongue in cheek question obviously.

State Of The Pipeline. It's the bloody Header.
I was the idiot who took it to mean,

"Air all issues here".

My next post would have been

Oh and SoundClick is persecuting me, intentionally,
for political reasons I suspect, and were in fact paid by someone to do so.

But again, this thread is not about that.

Ask more interesting questions.
You might get more interesting answers.

~L


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Richard Scotti

11/13/2015 8:23:56 AM


Frankly, I would enjoy more discussions about music, what we listen to, what inspires us, what is our writing process, etc. There are plenty of sites that cater to politics and all kinds of free form expression and they do well because they focus on what they know best. It's cool to talk about all kinds of stuff here but if we make the site too generic then what is it's purpose? We can't be all things to all people but we have something special going on here that we don't seem to be concentrating on and that's the wealth of musical talent makes up the membership. If I wanted to see You Tube videos of non-IMP artists singing (ie famous artists) I would go to You Tube. It would be more fun to see videos posted here made by IMP artists. I've already seen the famous acts many times. And we have something that You Tube doesn't have - many great artists who share their music but who also have the ability to talk with kindred spirits about their work in a very easy to use forum.

There's always room for all kinds of different discussion here but I think we would all learn more about our craft if we asked and answered questions regarding our original music and spent less time on other things, because it's the "other things"
that sometimes distract the site from it's goal of championing indie music and cause potential participants to be wary of joining in. The energy should be more welcoming and inclusive and less ambiguous. When you're not sure what's in the water, it makes it a little more intimidating to jump in. Let's hook musicians with music! As Scott mentioned, we have to achieve a balance. Right now things are going OK but more balance is needed.


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Bryon Tosoff

11/13/2015 8:47:16 AM


Well point taken Richard. although I did as well argue in a way that there should and needed to be more of a focus on the music side of things, but honestly, really, do we need to do that, well for some.

I was actually corrected and told here by some that it is not just about music, even though we are a music driven site, (obvious) , but all of the people who jumped in and said i was off base, and these are people whom I respect and respected their opinion and explanation that it is more then just about music related items here, it is all apart of the entertainment component. so for some it is music, the whole gamut, and others it is to have fun, joke about and make it an open forum with no restrictions, i have come to accept that, so all in all, anything goes, music politics state of the world, hot dogs, sandwiches, fortune tellers, all that and more!


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Richard Scotti

11/13/2015 9:29:30 AM ---- Updated 11/13/2015 5:45:50 PM


Bryon ~ just because people tried to "correct" you doesn't mean they were right and you were wrong. I know that you and I share a passion for the work so maybe we're a little biased in favor of discussions about music. I'm not saying it should be ALL music - I'm just saying that it shouldn't be ALL of something else either. As I mentioned there has to be a balance between the miscellaneous and the specific. And recently, the focus has mainly been on the former. A site needs an identity.
Are we a miscellaneous site or a music site? What is the balance on the forum?
Is it 50 - 50? 60 - 40? 70 -30? 80 - 20? Trust me when I say that no one is going to say "Hey man, I found this awesome site where they ask you what your favorite color is. WOW! Slammin'. That's a site I have to use to promote my music!!


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11/13/2015 9:50:43 AM


I was under the impression this is a music site for Indie Artists.
As such, automatically, the conversation in an Artist Forum---which the Pipeline is, yes?---is going to mostly be centered around music. And that's fine.
I say, let it happen organically.

Now, one could ARGUE, that maybe it should be more this or more that,
I would not argue that, but one could....

But you see, once you've done that, you are entering the slippery slope
of censoring free expression in said forum. And if that is the intent,
then rules, right visibly up top, should be posted,
you know, along the lines of 'only talk about music, and music related issues in this forum' ... which may, I'll add this as well 'cause it's true, work towards stifling human participation in an Artist Forum, which the Pipeline is said to be.

The point I'm trying to make is, if it is a free forum, that's it.
It's a free forum, and you don't try to contain it.
And if it is not, you post that, clearly, so that people know.

And you may need also to get specific.

Because 'music as it relates to politics' or
'music as it relates to social issues' may suddenly no longer
be fair game!

At least, there's still hot dogs to talk about.

~L



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Bryon Tosoff

11/13/2015 9:58:17 AM


that is true Richard, it is key to being successful, the focus is on the music, and we all contribute to assisting and doing that with our stations, and adding up artists we like.Certainly i concur with you and feel the same way, but have come to accept the need for other aspects, although I may not entirely agree with all of the pipeline antics and crazy stuff, it is what is happening, so I go along with it, perhaps some people did not or dont like some of the strange brew here, and the subjects, and the weirdness, and that is why they have not returned, I suppose. some like the oddball stuff, I dont think it is all necessary to have all music, but interspersed on occasion with the funny unusual things, helps to break the all music all the time thing, with people posting their songs or vids, I do more about promoting others and sometimes post them here on the pipe, and once in a blue my own works.

As for your thing about it being about the music, I have a station up at my voodoohead.ca promo site voodoohead productions and use it for all the artists I have ever promoted, well not quite all but a lot, and all are here, lots of them. and people listen and check out the artists on my page there
Voodoohead Productions

cheers

bryon


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Scott

11/13/2015 12:13:30 PM


Well we certainly could use more well-thought-out music topics but to be honest, some days we hardly have any new threads at all. Every regular participant should try to start a few new threads every week, I think the balance part would take care of itself if more people were determined to contribute fairly regularly, it gets dicey when it ends up with only a few people pushing the agenda(s) forward.


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Bryon Tosoff

11/13/2015 12:19:59 PM


Yes true enough Scott, perhaps some of us, myself included, could do maybe one or two a week for the sake of balance and not overwhelm the pipe with too many things at once and hopefully people respond and do their own posts, the new artists and visitors listeners.etc


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11/13/2015 3:02:54 PM


Right. As you said Scott in the one I posted outright asking the question;

The thing seems to be 'strike a balance' not too little, and not too much.

Noted.

God Bless, Much Love, ~Lesley

PS...

Here's a thought which just occurred...
(I love when that happens)
It may be that some people don't realize that it's okay
for them to actually start their own post.
To alleviate this, you could, Scott, do a post,
which you could refresh or others of us could,
specifically about 'it's okay, come and post about what you'd like to talk about',

as some people need encouragement. I know I did.
And you encouraged me. See? It works.

Have a good one, Everybody.

~L


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Richard Scotti

11/13/2015 6:00:11 PM ---- Updated 11/13/2015 6:02:12 PM


The problem is that we need some new "regular participants". The same 4 or 5 people should not be responsible for always starting new threads. Perhaps what I have to say is not very interesting because I rarely get responses to my comments and I'm not complaining!!! But I'd love to see someone besides the usual suspects doing all the work. Hey, I'm only human. I think I write pretty good songs but I don't always have ideas for threads and when I do, they seem to fall flat. Maybe others should step up to the plate and come up with something better. Maybe that would stimulate and inspire better comments from me. I started a station called Under The Covers and only the great Delores posted a cover of an IMP artist. (It's amazing. check it out) Jesse Adams posted one that he already done before I started the station and I write one. Nobody else bothered to give it a try. It gets discouraging.


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Scott

11/13/2015 7:33:19 PM


Well threads pushing some specific activity are different. Artists are often trapped in their own creative OCD state like I was for instance when Verity suggested we all do a version of Happy Birthday. Those kind of things are nice for the pipeline, but I think it's more that we just get more regular voices contributing to discussions or starting their own topics. Yes it does get tedious reading the same 2 or 3 people but as one of those people at times, it's just as frustrating seeing all your own threads filling the page while others just stay in the background. The pipe needs to be fed, daily, I think.


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Shoe City Sound

11/13/2015 8:13:01 PM


Thanks for that Richard. I loved that song from the second Chandra posted it and I would never have thought of doing a cover version if you hadn't come up with the idea for the station. Also I have to agree with you that it gets frustrating not getting response to comments made. I have rarely started a thread because my topics have mostly just died of loneliness out there. And that's OK - if it's not interesting to anybody but me, whatever - welcome to my world. But I do comment on lots of things that others post about and don't get that many responses that way either. So it sort of makes you feel like you're butting in haha ... People commenting about all sorts of things is interesting to me - even the crazy stuff. I am very curious though about how the Pipeline used to be. So much talk about getting it back up to how fabulous it was. What was out there back in the day that we're trying to return to? I am not being sarcastic here at all. Was it just way more volume of activity, or a different spirit, or what?


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Stoneman

11/13/2015 10:10:41 PM


More comments about music issues would be great but as stated by others here, those kinds of posts often get ignored. Much in the same way that the Review/Commentary page has been mostly ignored (even by some core regulars). There were a few posting over there on the regular but they got ran away by certain entities that jumped on them about not having complete song links up with their posts. Most sites you just put in the URL and it turns into a link. But, here, there is more of a coding process and some people don't like dealing with that stuff.

I'm not sure of what the answer is. Some people like to read posts but fear creating or replying to posts because they don't write very well. Yes, believe it or not, it is true that a lot of well educated people don't write very well. I have known many elite engineers in the Silicon Valley whose writing skills were pitiful. People that do write well take that skill for granted. Then, others fear being ridiculed for having differing opinions. I know I have felt that before but I am the type that likes to confront his fear with action. Not everybody is like me though. The point I am trying to make is that as the site continues to bring in new artists there will be more people attracted to the Pipeline. It is sort of a numbers game. Recent history has shown that only a small percentage want to participate in the forums. So, the more artists on the site, the more people we will have on the Pipeline. But I agree that those of that are already here should make an effort to post more about musical stuff and to better support those posts with replies and personal insights. I (for one) seldom post stuff but I reply to a lot of stuff. I certainly can do better than what I have done. The stuff I do post about usually gets buried very quickly. Maybe I need to up my game in that. Right? All we can do is try to make it better. Better results often come from better effort.


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Chandra Moon

11/14/2015 2:07:46 AM


Sorry I've not commented here but I'm still away in Oz enjoying a few weeks off everything! I'll be back commenting and running my stations etc from 21st. I've read through some posts though and look forward to getting stuck in again soon.


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11/14/2015 8:00:26 AM


Goodness. Again, Stone, you are a Brother to the Core of my Heart & Soul.

Regarding this:


More comments about music issues would be great but as stated by others here, those kinds of posts often get ignored. Much in the same way that the Review/Commentary page has been mostly ignored (even by some core regulars). There were a few posting over there on the regular but they got ran away by certain entities that jumped on them about not having complete song links up with their posts. Most sites you just put in the URL and it turns into a link. But, here, there is more of a coding process and some people don't like dealing with that stuff.

I'm not sure of what the answer is. Some people like to read posts but fear creating or replying to posts because they don't write very well. Yes, believe it or not, it is true that a lot of well educated people don't write very well. I have known many elite engineers in the Silicon Valley whose writing skills were pitiful. People that do write well take that skill for granted. Then, others fear being ridiculed for having differing opinions. I know I have felt that before but I am the type that likes to confront his fear with action. Not everybody is like me though. The point I am trying to make is that as the site continues to bring in new artists there will be more people attracted to the Pipeline. It is sort of a numbers game. Recent history has shown that only a small percentage want to participate in the forums. So, the more artists on the site, the more people we will have on the Pipeline. But I agree that those of that are already here should make an effort to post more about musical stuff and to better support those posts with replies and personal insights. I (for one) seldom post stuff but I reply to a lot of stuff. I certainly can do better than what I have done. The stuff I do post about usually gets buried very quickly. Maybe I need to up my game in that. Right? All we can do is try to make it better. Better results often come from better effort.

Yeah. That.

Couldn't have imagined that all put more succinctly.

Yes, it's true, it's a percentage thing,
you'll have plenty of artists who simply won't post,
or if they do, maybe they won't start a post,
maybe they don't even know they can...

but the more artists you have, the more Pipeline participation
you are bound to get.

And also, what Stoneman said about how a 'url' turns automatically
into a link by this technological point in human history on most sites,
is true. And should be seen to, at the earliest possible opportunity.

And in the meantime,
Nobody should put down an artist for so inane a thing
as 'they didn't know how to code a link' for crying out loud.

One of those artists, is me.

If I post a song, I'll cut and paste the url to the song,
and I'll expect that anyone who cares to hear it,
will copy and paste the url I put there.

And if I were to be told I'm less of an Artist because
I did not know how to make a link be a link,
I would counter with,

"No, I'm less of a techie and should not be working for Apple.
I am in no way less of an artist however."

Anyway, I also liked what Richard said
in my post outright asking what are the Pipeline rules;

"No rules. All you need is love."


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Stoneman

11/14/2015 10:34:23 AM


Richard, I really must apologize to you about the "Under The Covers" challenge as I agreed to do it but should not have as I was in the middle of producing my new Reggae CD and at the time was a bit behind the delivery timeline. I should have declined because I was way too busy. Plus, my vacation in Cabo became another timeline issue. Now, I am caught up in a new delivery timeline for the R&B Love song CD I am expected to deliver by end of the year. My priorities have to be with the recording company and their expectations of me. But I thought your idea was great and I hoped I would be able to find the time to do it. I offer my sincere apologies to you because I should never have said I would do it. I plan on taking a few weeks off after this next project. I hope I will get around to doing it then. But I can't make any promises because my wife usually has lots of "honey do" tasks for me when I take a break from music. Once again, my priorities may hinder my ability to get it done. Sorry about that Bro.

Much Respect,
Stoneman


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LyinDan

11/14/2015 11:13:39 AM


Wow, I'm a few, now. Heh. Guess I am.

The link deal was actually trying to help on the review forum. Since this forum does not yet have the automatic turn a link into html function, there is only one way to make a clickable link, and that is html. If you do not post a clickable link to your song, you immediately lose 4/5 at least of your audience. This is simply a fact. The great majority will NOT copy and paste your address into the browser line without a great curiosity, which is not produced by posting, "Hey, come look at my song!" which is what 90% of review threads amount to. If that's all you post, AND you post a clickable link, MANY more people will be inclined to click it, because that's EASY, and if you actually WANT them to listen, you will make it easy as possible. Few people that drift through here know how to market their music, and a clickable link is the absolute bottom line basic start. The fact that the forum needs an automatic process for that is not in my control, that requires the programmer of the site to spend some time on it, and since he hasn't, he probably does not currently have that time. So I can only do what I have control of, and that's posting a thread.

It could be said that I was a might too brash about it (heh), and indeed, I had a post or two in the review forum deleted ( I must say, a certain other poster aided me greatly in destroying those threads). But I wanted people to actually READ those threads, and the way I made them is one way to insure that. What actually made me do it was noticing that Richard previously posted that exact same info and pretty much got ignored. Being obnoxious is one way to get read. If people want to think I'm a turd, then so be it. But the info got out there, and it was read.

As for running people off, people drift through here all the time. Most hit and run, as a normal thing. What really makes them leave is being ignored or not being fawned over. I am not "politically correct", and if I'm in the mood, I will thrash someone for being intentionally passive aggressive in the way that was happening in those and other threads I observed this person doing, and I can take receiving fire from those who think I deserve it.

I think regulars here can tell you I can also be downright effusive and sickenly cloying with praise when I think someone deserves that, too.

Anyhow, I don't think this forum needs any restrictions on what to talk about here. Of course, people are entitled to say what they will about what they think the focus here should be. I think the focus here is mainly "free speech", and that is what it should be. Within the bounds of some decency. THAT is what builds forums, when people are not afraid to say their piece.

Maybe I need a tag when I post sometimes. "This dog is toothless, even when he bites"


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Bryon Tosoff

11/14/2015 11:19:56 AM


What LyinDan said something worth reading for a change, man, you are a great communicator,offering a valuable point of view I liked what I read there dude. see I am praising you, next time I will tell you to Fuck off. lol


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LyinDan

11/14/2015 11:28:36 AM


Fuck off, Byron! :)


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Steve April

11/14/2015 11:55:36 AM ---- Updated 11/14/2015 12:05:45 PM


Dolores, Richard, per your earlier comments wonderin' about response, always look and check out your posts and value your intelligence and humanity. You are appreciated by humble moi! Even when I'm busy, like now, and gotta run in a few minutes lol lol...

Also, Dolores wonders, "People commenting about all sorts of things is interesting to me - even the crazy stuff. I am very curious though about how the Pipeline used to be. So much talk about getting it back up to how fabulous it was. What was out there back in the day that we're trying to return to? I am not being sarcastic here at all. Was it just way more volume of activity, or a different spirit, or what?"

Generally, I'd say IAC caught a wave around 2005 or so. For example, I met Steve Ison on Garageband, that was runnin' strong for awhile. Fairly suddenly, it was gone, p-o-o-f. Vanished! Finito!

Many Garageband and mp3 refugees came to IAC. Do not recall all that much the Pipeline then, except it was "new." However, a great aspect of IAC back then was the influx of musicians/artists AND reviewers/chroniclers. Those were the days the Reviewers would step up and hoist a song to the rafters, if they liked it.

Hey, there were perhaps 20 reviews for "Love's Dangerous." If Steve Ison and I put "Love's Dangerous" up today, if it'd be added to 3 stations, that'd be fortunate, that's the vibe I get now. Back then it was added to over 50 stations. There was an excitement that carried over to reviews/chroniclin' the music here, like folks were discoverin' gems, n' the indie spirit was alive and well.

Play it as it lays, gotta run...


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Bryon Tosoff

11/14/2015 1:04:21 PM


Regarding Steve April's post about songs getting added up in Droves of Stations
yes, way back, it would garner a lot more adds, more station masters with an ear to listen and appreciate tunes, more listeners with stations, artists musicians who had stations and would respond accordingly, so, I agree, I hope that the newer artists who are coming onboard would participate more and go back and check out all the gems. the gold standard songs. but I say the songs coming in now are as good , and maybe even better......hope for the best and see more action on the pipe and for people willing to listen to the songs and start up stations, perhaps those days are gone, just a handful here listen add and comment about songs that are new and old. cheers


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Stoneman

11/14/2015 1:35:47 PM


My post about the link problem was not meant to call you out Lyin Dan. If I wanted to do that I would have said your name. It was only meant to point out the fact that some musicians are put off about having to do extra steps in regards to posting links. Just as some are frustrated with artists who fail to navigate the learning curve for posting links here. Most new artists are used to just putting in the URL and it turns into a link. At least that is the way it happens on other musicians sites. I understood your point to them but quite often it is not what you say but how you say it that determines a persons response. Just because someone has posted the process doesn't mean that others have read it or even seen it. In this case, one person, who was a regular poster decided to leave because of the ridicule. I suspect that others reading the ridicule were turned off and went away also. I agree with you on what you were trying to say. It was how you said it that bothered me and it surely scared off a few other folks. But yeah, you can't help but be yourself and I am not bothered by that at all. I don't expect everyone to be cheerful and fun. I love sarcasm and yours has a very defined purpose. But I do expect people to maintain a certain amount of respect for each other. The bottom line is not about you though. The bottom line is about the process. When I worked with engineers in the Silicon Valley our main approach was to identify obstructive or difficult processes with our products and fix them so that the consumer would have a less tedious experience. But I worked with hardware and I have no experience with websites, coding etc.. Hopefully, this issue can be put on the priority wish list in regards to future improvements to IMP.


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Steve White

11/14/2015 2:25:19 PM


Not being able to copy and paste a working link to your song will be the downfall of getting musicians to post. The sooner management realizes the better it will be.

It's the only place I've seen this ever. The poor excuse I got? Learn code it will be good for you. Not a answer a site should be giving musicians that have songs to post whether they know code or not.

I got very turned off by that answer and the attacks that followed. It was very rude. You should re-think this whole subject.


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11/14/2015 3:18:54 PM


Holy Moly.

You know, Scott, Steve White does have a really valid point.

And 'learn code, it's good for you' is about the worst possible
thing you can tell an artist... simply because they should not have to.

I knew some code when I was younger... now I'm an old person
and I can't remember damn near any of it.

So I'd just copy the url and post that,
and if anyone had a problem with that, my response
would simply be 'don't listen to my friggin' song then'.

But this distresses me. To hear that any artist, here of all places,
was told that.

The proper response, in my humble opinion since we're onto this subject,
would have been 'sorry, we haven't worked out the coding for that yet,
although we admit it, we should learn more coding, it would be good for us,
and better for our artists, we humbly apologize'.

Point well made, Steve White.

I'm gonna make up a new slogan to help you stay on track:

Don't Be A SoundClick. Give A Damn About Your Artists.

Can I Get a Amen, People?

~L


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Bryon Tosoff

11/14/2015 3:42:00 PM


yah Amen indeed,Steve has a point and is supported by ALJ, and in a respectful considerate way, and I didnt like the Way Steve was treated either and harassed about this linking up thing either, no time for that kind of thing, we are here to support encourage and motivate inspire one another. not cause distress and a feeling of discouragement. so whether it can be done,which is possible because most places have that so as ALJ says, lets maybe think about it, if not, then i know what i have done is link up those who dont do the code and yes it has been placed here how to do it, but still, is that good enough, for some yes, but not all will still get it

cheers

bryon


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Richard Scotti

11/14/2015 6:08:26 PM ---- Updated 11/14/2015 6:12:29 PM


I'm not taking sides in this fight but I just want to help. Leaving a site because you don't know a little code is something that can easily be avoided. I am the least technical person in the world but I wasn't going to let a little roadblock prevent me from getting my music out there and available and easily accessible. It took me a long time to learn it and then it took me a long time too teach it to other people. I worked a long time to perfect this method. It's impossible to just type in a sample line of the code because it is automatically converted to something else when you click submit.
But when when you type in the actual link using this method it will work, Good luck! And don't feel bad if you can't do it. There are a million things I can't do on the computer but I learned how to e-mail and I learned how to do Logic. That's all I need to know! Learn what you need to know. We're artists, not techies! But a little learning goes a long way. All you have to do is try. When I wanted to be a musician and songwriter, I knew NOTHING about music or how to play it or write it but my passion for it made me learn it. When I bought my first computer I didn't even know how to turn it on. If I can learn to post a song with code, almost anybody can. But if it still baffles you, you should not be ridiculed.
People make fun of me all the time because I have yet to learn how to use my smart phone. It makes me feel stupid!! (But I intend to learn ~ someday)


1) Write out appropriate words and symbols horizontally. (don't type "space or no space".)
2) Don't type "less than" or "greater than", type in the symbols for those words.
3) Fill in YOUR song ID# to replace 12345.

4) Your song ID# is NOT your artist ID#. To see which is which,
click on the title of your song on your artist page and look in your browser box. You will see each
number clearly indicated.

5) Don't type the numbers (12345) in the horizontal version of the line, replace that number with the ID# of your song.


"less than" symbol
no space
a
space
href
no space
=
no space
http
no space
:
no space
//iacmusic.com/
no space
songs.
no space
aspx?
no space
songid
no space
=
no space
12345 (your song ID#)
no space
>
song title (spaces are permitted between words in the song title)
no space
"less than" symbol
no space
Forward slash
no space
a
"greater than symbol"

After you have typed everything horizontally, SAVE that line and keep it on your computer.

Copy and paste the line in the blog box where you want to post the link.

Then simply fill in the SONG ID# in place of "12345" while the line is in the blog box. Then fill in the title of the song.


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Steve White

11/14/2015 6:58:02 PM


With respect Richard

You're missing the point. We should not have to do all that. If you and others can do it here? Management should be able to fix the code so it's automatic. It's more about making it as easy as possible for the Artist to post a song anywhere here.

I get the point that if you don't post a link no one or hardly anyone will go through the process to go to your page but that flows both ways. I'd rather post ( and do ) my songs where it's easier not harder. It's just common sense. Artists are just people too and they or most of them do not want to go the hard route to post a song. That's why you don't see many posts.

I totally don't understand the reasoning behind management on not having this done as soon as the place was open. Fix it guys seriously.


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Scott

11/14/2015 10:19:26 PM ---- Updated 11/14/2015 10:27:46 PM


Management should be able to fix the code ? Well that's easily said, not so easily done. Especially when we have very limited resources here, and sweat paying the server fee monthly. Being somebody who started back at the original mp3.com, it truly seems kind of odd to me that artists who promote themselves haven't picked up a bit of html by now, I know it's been useful to me many places. We've fixed a number of items since the relaunch and are involved in a current very important project now but to be honest there's a couple things after that which are probably ahead of making linking easier. It is on the list though. Course if more site donations come in, more and faster fixes will occur. I'd add that it took a lot of programming to make the pipeline such an integrated blog arena, it's not like we don't have a number of features here no other site even thought of.


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Richard Scotti

11/15/2015 2:10:28 AM


Stoneman ~ apology accepted! Thank you for the explanation.


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Bluto

11/15/2015 3:19:13 AM


The truth is, it would take less time to learn to post an html link than it took to write any of the paragraphs above.

The idea that a DIY musician who had to learn to deal with complicated gear to record their songs would be totally shut off to / reluctant to / refuse to learn how to do that is increasingly bizarre.


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11/15/2015 4:53:05 AM


The Truth Is,

KISS MY SAILOR MAN ASS, Bluto!

Love, ~Popeye


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11/15/2015 5:14:45 AM


Hiding behind Cartoon Characters again?

Look.

Get With It.

You can take the tack of trying to make the artists in the community you built,
to feel bad because they can't make a line of code. It's a mistake, but you can do it.
Why is a mistake?
Because people can and often will just pick up and go someplace else.
Really, I'm sad to hear that EVER went on here, but if it thinks it's going
to go on here now while I'm around to kick its f-ing teeth in, guess again!

You have every right to say, 'we can't do it, we're sorry',
You throw in the 'we're sorry' and you're done.
You don't even have to launch into the 'we're poor' speech.
I'm friggin' poor as pigeon snot, and I was going to send you money
this month, and you told me not to, Scott. Oookay. Guess you
didn't need it that damned much then, did you.

By the way, does that ever work besides the one time it worked with me?
Bullying people with cartoon characters? It through me, I admit.
Now, I know this is a thing you do here, so I am prepared for it,
and I leave the house wearing a football helmet.

You are out of bounds, to tell artists what they should know.
You are out of bounds, to try and put it on them, for wanting it to be easier.
Your only way out of that argument, is again, humble apology,
which maybe you know how to do, or maybe you have to learn.
But you have to learn it. Know that. You have to learn how to be humble
to your artist community, if you want to have an artist community.
You have to learn that, and know it. Way more than we have to learn code.

Or, you have to watch all your efforts to make the Premiere Indie Community,
fail fail fail in the garbage pail.

Now, this is a bit strongly put,
on behalf of the Artists.

Not like Richard who wants to be a diplomat offend no one,
and go on so long I can't even follow it anymore---it hurt my widdle head, Doc.

And mind you, Mr Time, I would not, would not,
have gone to this gear, had you only done the very thing I suggested;

"Folks, you're right, we humbly apologize"

But, you didn't do that.
And you hid behind Bluto no less.

And I don't care if you tell me or all of us Bluto is not you,
he may as well be.

Get It Straight, Administrator.

I'm just outa SoundClick fucking me around,
and I can't do much so far (outside of talking to lawyers, which I am)
but here? Here where there is still a forum?
(A thing in your favor, by the way, so don't squander that good will)
Here I will speak up. Because that's what I do.

The onus is on you. You The Site. Not We The Artists.

If it's too much a bother, or you cannot afford to buy the time
to get someone in to write the necessary code, so be it.
You can reveal that. You can obscure that.

And whatever you choose to do, as Site Administrator,
You, Do, Humbly.

Or sooner or later we'll all realize "Hey! This shit is TOTALLY Toy Boat!"

Now.

I hope, we will absorb this.

I Am Lesley Jane.

The Next Republican President Is Lesley Jane. Yep. That's me.

Right after Two Hillary Terms. Or Possibly Bernie if he hustles like mad.

That has nothing to do with this particular topic,
but just sayin'.... we can dance around, and you can
even bring out the talking French Fries....

There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way to do things.

And again, I would not have done this particular post,
taking you to task on the matter,
had you not AGAIN defended it.

NO WE Don't.

We don't have to learn that which is beyond what we need to know,
some of us can hardly remember that, including me.
I knew some code, long ago. Forgot it. Oops. Oh well. I'm old.

Richard are you a co owner of this place? You speak as though you are.
That was pretty much kissing Scott's ass.
And okay, he's a handsome guy.

I'm not much into ass kissing though.

Post your song if you want, Folks.
And if all you can do is copy and paste the url to your song,
do that, and if people wanna hear the song,
they can copy the link, put it in the browser, and Voila.

That, we all know how to do.

Bullying the Artists in the Great Fantastic Premiere Indie Artist Community
you are trying to build, is about the biggest mistake you could possibly make.

You get it yet, or should I go on?

~L


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Bluto

11/15/2015 6:58:02 AM


If you're bullied by cartoon characters, that's on you, not on me. Sweet Pea gets all sceered seeing me walk down the road. I don't mind, I like the respect.


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11/15/2015 7:01:29 AM


Oh you misunderstand, large fat animated bearded one who always loses.
I am NOT bullied. I don't get mad. I get even.

I kick your ass in every cartoon, and I'll do it again, Bluto.

Love, Popeye


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Scott

11/15/2015 7:09:15 AM


Lesley, the guy who claims to be speaking in Beatle tongue wants me to be humble. Odd that you'd be accusing Richard of asskissing at the same time you want me to be subservient. I generally say what I think, and will continue to do so. Whoever told you that you should learn to post a link was trying to help you. That's a positive thing, not a negative.

That is what I said, by the way. We don't have the resources.

One more thing, Lesley, if you're going to be revealing things we discuss in email like that I refused your money, don't email me anymore.


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Bluto

11/15/2015 7:14:34 AM


First Beatlesex is claiming to be Popeye, then Lesley. They're both confused imposters. If Lesley is Popeye I'm Gummo the Rubber Man!


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11/15/2015 7:15:26 AM


Okay.

First, Scott.

I now see that any posts from the men I channel, John Lennon,
and George Harrison, are clearly not welcome in your site.
Noted. Won't happen again.

Second.
I have not revealed anything which you have asked me not to.
That said, if you do not want me to reveal something, you need to
let me know that. Otherwise, it's fair game as far as I see.

Third.
You're obviously mistaking being humble, with being subservient.
But okay, you wanna go there?
We'll go there.
You are serving The Indie Artist Public, or you are not.
If you are not, make that clear. If you are, then shut up and do it.

From now on, it will only be me who posts,
be it from ALJ or Bsex....

I may say 'we this or we that' when I post from BEATLESEX
if that indeed is a statement we all feel, I may do that,
and everyone will understand what it means, or not.

You still, skirt the issue,
that being upperhanded to your artists, is SoundClick Bullshit.

What say, you take a different tack?

Just a suggestion.

You may chase me off, and if you do,
there goes any argument that you are trying to create
a free flowing indie artist community...
at that point, it would become clear,
you are only trying to create a pond ass kissers.

Which I did not sign up for.

Anything else?


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11/15/2015 7:16:32 AM ---- Updated 11/15/2015 7:19:52 AM


Yes, there was something else.

No one told me, I had to learn code in order to post.
I woulda told 'em to jump up my ass and stay there till I tell 'em to fall out
and jump up there again.

No, I was sticking up for artists who have been -reportedly- bullied here
in the past.

Any questions?


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11/15/2015 7:17:23 AM


No, you're a Douche, Bluto.
And if you had the nerve to stand face to face with me, ever, anywhere,
I'd give you One Popeye Special Beatin'.

No problem. Free of Charge, for you.

Dick.


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11/15/2015 7:19:00 AM


And Scott, you still have missed my point.

No problem with saying 'we don't have the resources'.

None whatsoever.

But trying to make an Artist feel like it is somehow a shortcoming on
their end?

You really wanna blow your own head clean off, don't you.
Get A Clue, Scott.


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Scott

11/15/2015 7:27:05 AM



So if you didn't know how to cut and paste your link, would that be a shortcoming?

Where does DIY begin and end? When does learning your way around the web turn into an intolerable inconvenience?

That's really special that you don't think I'm serving the indie artist public enough.


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Steve White

11/15/2015 7:47:28 AM


This thread said "air your issues here"

I did and some others did too. You shouldn't get defensive about something you asked for.

I'll return to lurking and when/if you fix the posting a song link, I'll be back.


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Scott

11/15/2015 7:53:39 AM


I'm not defensive because I responded. Seems what we're discussing is that you feel insulted that folks were trying to teach you how to post a link. I personally don't think Lyin Dan was doing any more than offering some tough love. As Bluto said, learning how would take far less energy than this discussion.


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Richard Scotti

11/15/2015 7:57:32 AM


I wasn't supporting any side. I was just trying to help anyone who might want to learn the code until eventually it is automatic. As Scott knows, I do plenty of complaining about management. I don't know what goes on at IMP behind the scenes. I get as frustrated as anybody else as to why and how certain things are done and not done.
My first allegiance is to my fellow members and that's why I'm trying to teach the code to whomever wants to learn it. It is not ass kissing to try and help a situation until it gets resolved which I believe it will. Let it be.


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Steve White

11/15/2015 8:04:16 AM


No we're not discussing me being insulted. We're discussing the need for a easier way to post a link. Don't make this about me. I have brain problems that get in the way of learning certain things and there's nothing I can do about that. It's not even close to comparing writing text and the time it takes to learn the code.

Don't fix, or do. That's your choice but don't give me a hard time about something I can't fix.


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11/15/2015 8:08:55 AM


Yeah, I know how to copy and paste, and that'll do for me.

And you are being defensive.
Because you keep dodging the issue,
and isn't that special!

It SHOULD turn into a link. It does anywhere else.

But fine, so it doesn't.
That said, We do not feel we need to know coding,
anymore than you do apparently.

And you talk of serving the artist community, and okay thus far you have,
but trying to throw a shortcoming on your site's part onto them, is childish,
and very unprofessional.


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11/15/2015 8:11:33 AM


Oh yeah. One more thing.

"As Bluto said..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAH


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11/15/2015 8:13:08 AM


And now of course you'll counter with me and my channeling the boys...

However, someone who knows them came and verified it.
His name is Pete Shotton. He helped John form The Quarrymen.

But by all means, see if you can get Olive Oyl to stop by
and put in a good word for Bluto.


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:14:56 AM ---- Updated 11/15/2015 8:15:41 AM


Well if I could fix that myself I would, Steve. So in essence what's happening is you're also giving me a hard time about something I can't fix.

You need an easier way to post a link but a lot of people here know how. So it is kind of about you and those in your same boat.


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11/15/2015 8:15:17 AM


Did 'ass kissing' hurt your feelings?
And you believe it will get resolved.
I think it sounds like it shows no sign of resolving soon.
It is what it is, people accept it, or they don't.

I work with what is in front of me.


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11/15/2015 8:17:17 AM


Again, wrong.

It is about, don't make it a policy to bully, belittle, or in any other way shape or form try and make an artist feel bad if they do not know how to code a link.

And for you to say you don't know,
well if ANYBODY should be the one to learn... I think it's you.

It COULD be done. It's not like the technology doesn't exist.
But fine, you can't be bothered, anymore than I can be bothered
trying to code a link.

The argument I'm making here at any rate,
is don't belittle the artists.

That's it.


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:17:52 AM


"It SHOULD turn into a link. It does anywhere else."

You mean on those sites that don't even have communities to promote your music?


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11/15/2015 8:20:34 AM


Look at you. What are you? 12?

You just won't let it go.

How about saying this, since being humble suits
you about as much as it does Donald Trump.

"Hey, code a link, or don't, that's what we got, work with it".

Is that really so hard?


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11/15/2015 8:21:36 AM


Keep this up, and you should amend the title of this post, to:
State Of The Pipeline According To Scott.
With the caption below reading:

Air your issues here, unless I don't agree with them, in which case, fuck off.


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:22:22 AM


I don't think trying to teach someone to post a link here is belittling, I see it as empowering.

You want me to spend weeks learning asp website development to make this site more usable for those who have brain issues like Steve speaks of? That seems a mite unreasonable.




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Scott

11/15/2015 8:25:26 AM


Am I the one who won't let it go, Lesley, or am I the guy responding to this complaint who a few posts ago you were dissatisfied with my efforts at serving the indie artist public?


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11/15/2015 8:25:50 AM


What I want?

I want, you, to stop turning it around onto the artist.

Fix it, don't fix it. I could give a Royal Fuck Less, Scott.

That reasonable enough for ya?


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Bryon Tosoff

11/15/2015 8:26:16 AM


This is beginning to sound like the republican political debates. duh lol .so I have a solution, it is so simple and easy,. continue doing the links for those who cant, I do it when i see the need, and Scott has done it, others, so lets make an effort to continue that and leave this pile of stinky poo alone, hows that, i think we all need to take a huge step back and let sleeping dogs lie, and html coding for those who know how, help the not so knowing how
'
there was a question that I remember seeing though, "AIR YOUR ISSUES HERE"

so some have aired them and now it is a stinky fart floating around and smelling worse all the time. : )
cheers brothers and sisters, some i know are getting a big jolly out of seeing this cause it is quite hilarious to me

best and PEACE

bryon


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11/15/2015 8:27:44 AM


Nope. Got it wrong again.

I am not dissatisfied with your level of serving the artist community,
or, at least, that was where I stood, but the issue of you keep
turning it around onto the artist, is what is childish.

I commend what you have done here.
Don't piss on it, by trying to make artists feel they have
to know how to code a link.
I'm arguing a principle at this point.


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11/15/2015 8:29:08 AM


Now THAT, is a Perfect Point,

one I just made myself in my own way.

"Air issues here"

but then when they do, you have a hairy canary. Think about that a moment.


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11/15/2015 8:31:03 AM


Let's all try to dial up the calm some, if that is possible.

Again, Scott,

What you have going here is unique and pretty cool...

and FUCK Links. Links Stink. I hate Links. I do by now.
Okay Sausage Links, are yumyum.


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Steve White

11/15/2015 8:33:28 AM


Pitiful


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11/15/2015 8:36:02 AM


That an 'air issues here' thing turns into a shitstorm? Yeah, pretty much.

Anyway... I'm going now to try an experiment....

Let's see if this works....


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:36:57 AM


If I had a problem with what was occurring I could've locked this thread long ago. Awhile back I was hoping that mentioning our resources are limited was enough, but it wasn't. I always sort of hope that people will air their issues and that will suffice, but it usually doesn't. Anyway doing a thread like this is a good way to find out how folks feel about ya, how you're doin', what they think you should be doin', so there ya have it.


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11/15/2015 8:40:05 AM ---- Updated 11/15/2015 8:46:02 AM


Still workin' on it....


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:40:47 AM


Not quite but nice try! hahaha


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:41:52 AM


you have an extra www dot at the beginning


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11/15/2015 8:43:25 AM


Still workin' on it, gimme a sec.


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Scott

11/15/2015 8:44:56 AM


ok see you folks later, I need a short nap before the football game. heh


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11/15/2015 8:46:55 AM


Have a good one, Time.

I'll see what I can do to de-mystify this---as soon as figure it out..


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11/15/2015 8:50:24 AM


Still trying to see if I can remember how to do this,
then I'll post a "How To" for everyone else. If I can get it right...

"I Won't Jump Off" by Steve White


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11/15/2015 8:51:16 AM


EUREKA!!


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11/15/2015 8:55:04 AM


Okay, in a few minutes or so, we shall make a post, a new thread
as it were, explaining how to do a link.
That way artists can simply look it up in Pipeline,
get the coding, and apply it. Easy Peasy.

Back in a bit, Ladies & Gentlemen.


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Bryon Tosoff

11/15/2015 8:57:00 AM


Yeah. ALJ.good job.....;it is all entertainment. what a thread been awhile since one went that way, and it is happy times again

later



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11/15/2015 9:08:06 AM


Well, you know, Steve, Scott, and Everyone...

A Thriving Artist Community, This is, obviously.

Mission Accomplished.

We'll be back in a bit,
with a How To For Artists To Post Links On The Pipeline.

~Lesley


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LyinDan

11/15/2015 12:01:33 PM


Families squabble, don't they? :) It wasn't THAT terrible, was it?

I will say this to illuminate a bit. Hopefully. This forum appears to be coded from scratch, or at least heavily modified. That is no easy feat. Speaking as somewhat of a coder and programmer myself (since the 80's), people don't realize what a finicky and time consuming job it is. So, much kudos to the coders of this site! (And don't tell me to code it, if I'm so smart...I never learned ASP, never needed to program a server. Sorry.)

Imagine a site that was a labor of love and selfless determination to benefit music artists. One that wasn't produced by filthy rich capitalists whose only determination was for more filthy lucre, the record companies and internet leeches of the world that dominate the music scene. One that was generated from practically nothing but will.

That's this place. Generosity built this place, it ain't too rich. And it's always been a struggle. So...you might want to go a bit easy on it and the peeps behind it.

Yeah, it works both ways...artists disadvantage themselves by not learning how best to use the resources available to them, and sites disadvantage themselves by not making every possible accommodation to their users. There are limits to what is possible on both sides. We do have to work with what is possible at any particular time, though, not what we would like to be.

Nothing like a good squabble on the internet, though! haha


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Bryon Tosoff

11/15/2015 12:07:56 PM


whats up with LyingDan these days, is he going soft in the head? having the nerve of posting 2 love notes in kindness to us the past few days and becoming reasonable and considerate, as well as showing he can actually come up with a post that actually is readable and makes sense, sheer and utter disappointment, damn it LyinDan, why so nice , WTF is up with that!! LyinDan has lost it!!


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11/15/2015 12:08:08 PM ---- Updated 11/15/2015 12:11:57 PM


Point Well Made, And Well Taken.

Sorry about getting a bit heated.
Anyway, between us, I started and Scott helped finish it up,
a pretty decent post about HOW TO make a link...

Scott even showed how to do a picture link, which I'm only just learning now.

And yes, Families Squabble. And we are one. So, all's well that ends well.


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LyinDan

11/15/2015 12:11:09 PM


Oh, yeah, and as for talking comiccharacters, fruits, channels, whatever. It's part of the scenery that make this different and more interesting here. Back on the old MP3com, I probably had some little responsibility for well over a hundred o them. Would you rather hear a view from ScrewyLouie or Tom Smith? What if you've known Tom Smith for years and don't pay any attention to him because you already know what he's going to say? Which would be more enjoyable to read?

Characters, bring em on, I say.


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Bryon Tosoff

11/15/2015 12:12:19 PM


I miss cranky sarcastic LyinDan


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LyinDan

11/15/2015 12:14:43 PM


Fuck off, Byron!


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Bryon Tosoff

11/15/2015 12:15:50 PM


LyinDan is almost part way recovered, maybe there is hope yet


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11/15/2015 12:16:39 PM


Ah, the cartoon members of IMP...

Well, they're part of the whole schtick here, I realize that.
I'm used to it by now.

and whatever else colorful characters are here,

I'm pretty sure Nostradamus and Nostradumbass are not the same person.

But anyway,
while I do in fact channel John Lennon & George Harrison,
both of them have decided it best not to post here anymore,

because dead people for real taking to the living, freaks people out a bit.
Or they think it's a bunch of crap.
Which in my case it isn't, but I don't wanna argue about it
anymore than they do.
You've all heard me by now rattle on about Pete Shotton,
Lennon's pal since age 5 coming here and realizing it is really John.

We're ultimately just happy to be able to put out records still. Anywhere.

Oh, and did I mention,

SoundClick Sucks Big Whale Dick?

Blub blub blub...


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LyinDan

11/15/2015 12:26:22 PM


If you think we're not going to miss and desire the presence of John and George Lennon Harrison, you're out of you're cotton-pickin mind!


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Shoe City Sound

11/15/2015 8:10:19 PM


Steve April and Bryon - thanks for the IAC history .... I get what you say, Steve, that it seems like it only lasted for an instant. I have stuff like that in my experience and it's hard to watch it pass on to the next thing. For one thing, everyone is completely changed about how they relate to online in general since 2005. And since then so many more musicians than ever are uploading stuff. I always think it's a good thing and all that music is necessary to balance out all the really harmful energy that gets put out there too. I upload our stuff anywhere I can think of, and I'm glad for the stats and feedback however impersonal they are. But I think that this is still very much a community of people that have writing music in common. It's important to everyone here. And there are some great tunes here and you can get to know about the artists and what everyone thinks about writing and lots of other things as well. So to answer the original question "State of the Pipeline?" Who knows what the IMP experience turns out to be, but for now it's really good.


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Stoneman

11/15/2015 9:23:39 PM


Ugh! Something told me not to respond to this thread. Someday I will learn to listen to.....uh, something? Peace..............


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LyinDan

11/15/2015 10:31:42 PM


I was wondering what the "ugh" was about. I had to cogitate on that for a moment, but since it was right after my "cotton-pickin" post I have to wonder if that was it. Having checked around the net, I see that is now considered by some as a racist term, and I can see why.

My grandparents were Irish, dirt-poor farmers in the Ozarks in Arkansas. My mother and all her sisters picked cotton. When the family would get together, talking old times, they all talked about picking cotton and lugging those heavy sacks. They all talked about their hands were always torn up and ugly from it. That, to me, was the meaning of why it was a derogatory term, like "keep your cotton-pickin hands off my stuff!". The term had no racist component to it at all for us, the hills were full of white people picking cotton. It had more of a classist meaning. When I was growing up, Bugs Bunny used it. Yosimite Sam used it. The westerns were full of it. I only just now realized how it could be interpreted. Never even thought of that.

So, if that was upsetting, I apologize.


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