Currently
the Reactavox song Wish is one of the fastest rising songs on the Kayak
Big 50. Recently I had a chance to try to get to the bottom of what
this unique duo is all about..
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Scott: Can you describe the time and place you were in life when you realized
you could vent using rock music. And how long after that did you know
that you were good at it, that people liked your venting ?
Shelia: I was around 10 when my Dad went on a trip
and returned with a prize for me - an 8 track stereo (looked like it
came from Walgreens) and the salesman had recommended none other than
"Steppenwolf's Greatest Hits". That was my first exposure to rock and I
listened to this 8 track constantly. Hence my vicarious venting
experience was born, and I haven't really stopped since. I remember
track #4 opened with the lyrics "Goddamn the Pusherman". My Dad heard
the tune seeping from my room and threatened to take away the stereo if
I played track #4 ever again. Hence, my revolutionary spirit was also
born...I didn't stop playing track #4...I just timed it to avoid
conflict. So as far as venting via my own devices..I've been playing in
bands since about 1980...but it was really the late 1990's before
things began to gel and I began to tap into my own self and writing
decent songs and lyrics. We formed a 3 piece with Ted Grauch on guitar
in 1998 and I played bass, sang and wrote songs & lyrics. This
was the beginning of a really creative period for me and working with
Ted was really great. He added an energetic, quirky, noisy, artsy twist
to the band and to our writing/playing/performing. It was a shift in
the right direction and some really great material came out of the
COMPRESSOR and FOR CHAMPIONS IT'S releases. We received a lot of
nationwide airplay on college radio....and we definitely played in some
really great Atlanta/Athens dives! Of course, since REACTAVOX became a
2 piece in 2002...I have had to really hold my own since there's no
other instrument or vocals. It's just all out there in the open and the
audience can see and feel nothing or everything. There's really no in
between. That's one thing that Nick and I both really love about the
band right now...it feeds our need for a pure, expressive experience.
People seem to really enjoy participating in that and watching and
hearing it unfold. We don't even know (or want to know) where it's
going live...it takes on a life of it's own. We're able to conjure that
up now on demand and that really gets our adrenaline going. We're
independent..and that means we can push the boundaries of free speech
and sonic emotion as far as we want. Are we good at it? Who am I to
say? Depends upon your taste in music and art. Am I happy with where we
are and what we're doing?? Yes. It feels very good and right.
Nick: Around 8 years old I was totally into the Beatles so I would lip
sync into a vacuum pipe pretending to be Paul or John...but at 10 I was
drumming on pots and pans in front of our big oak stereo playing and
singing to Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, Grand Funk. Part 2
The Venting...um... not till Reactavox...Every other band I was in you
had to take more of a back seat on the drums like " DON'T BE SO
*%$#@*&^ LOUD" or "YOU'RE SPEEDING UP"...In Reactavox...it is
total freedom or total feeling.
Scott: Your song Parasite, which is the song that turned me on to Reactavox,
is about the kind of thing we can all relate to, people who become
almost appendages. I gotta tell ya when I first heard it I thought you
were singing "I'm supporting you I'm supporting you" which would be
about another kind of parasite. But anyway, care to share anything
about your experiences with this kind of person, and your current
philosophies in regards to parasites?
Shelia: actually Parasite is NOT about a person.
Most people interpret it that way though. The Parasite is the U.S.
Media and TV in general. "I'm so bored with you. Give me a new
quotation. I'm so tired from you. Give me a new mutation. I'm so dead
from you. Give me a new aggression. Cut you off and see if I can
breathe...without you in me." So I feel that the modern world is
parasitic in a variety of ways...consumerism is a parasite...the media
is a parasite...racism is a parasite..radical/fundamental religion is a
parasite. All these monsters we have created divert our attention and
resources away from an existence that can be meaningful and peaceful.
By removing these parasites from our body (mind, heart, etc.) we can
reclaim ourselves and see the truth of who we are and what we can
become. The rat race is a dead end. Live to work. Work to live. It's
death on a silver platter...or for a growing number of
Americans...death on a paper plate. No thanks.
Nick: Ya.
Scott: Tell me about any turning points in your adult life, or about any
things in your childhood that may have sent you down the road you're on.
Shelia: Sounds like I should lie down on a couch
before I answer this one...I've had a lot of lives...like an alley
cat...and I've always learned my lessons the hard way...through
experience. I was a musician as a child..piano lessons and played
french horn in the marching band. I always loved to sing and my Mom was
a good singer and LOUD. We used to watch Porter Wagoner hosting the
Grand Ole Opry on Sat. nights and as an only child and rebellious
teenager my outlet was rock..mainly The Who. My parents are very
religious and didn't talk a lot with me about the real world...only the
world I was supposed to fit into. A lot of do's and don'ts but not a
whole lot of rational behind them other than their origin as religious
commandments. That's fine and all..but that was not enough to
discourage me from trying to fit in with the "cool" crowd. As a young
adult this world of behaving correctly to avoid guilt and shame didn't
really work for me either. My hormones have raged for a long time....So
as I proceeded to follow my heart and not my upbringing, I learned that
who I was...was not who I was programmed to be. I did the whole 70 hour
a week work thing for a number of corporations. Sure..the money was
awesome...but I had no life. Now I have a life that is unique to me and
fufills my need to reach out and try and make a difference...to try and
connect with the world..even when I'm screaming my guts out on stage
with a 120 DB wall of noise behind me...I'm connecting to at least one
person in the room that needed that - me! And if I'm lucky...someone in
the audience is screaming with me...maybe silently...but we're
connecting in a way that cannot be repeated or recreated. That's a
powerful notion and that keeps me going as an artist. I do it for
selfish reasons and for that one soul that hears it and goes "Yeah -
that was just what I needed!". As one fan described REACTAVOX..."it's
like a kick in the face and the crotch at the same time". How fun is
that?
Nick: Lots of turnings points in my life. One major turning point was
losing my father when I was only 16...I needed to grab on to something
stable to keep me out of trouble and to make me happy. I found that in
music & racing motocross.
Scott: I noticed a theme in a couple of your songs. In Reject you sing of
setting the standard high, and in Crave you sing "I need a new friend
One that demands" which is a rockin' line btw. Anyway you strike me as
somebody who doesn't settle for less and doesn't like to be around
those who do. I was wondering if you'd elaborate at all on this topic ?
Shelia - Actually in Reject I'm referring to the
neo-conservatives and their agenda to create a perfect world around
their narrow minded views of what America should do and be. In Crave,
certainly that line refers to associating myself with others that are
different than the Rat Race norm. I'm so unmoved by chasers of the
dream (or proverbial carrot on a stick). People need to define their
own dreams and have the courage to create them. Puppets are powerless
without their masters. So...I suppose I'm pretty hard on myself in
terms of not giving up on what I believe in ...even when no one else
seems to care or notice...even when I gotta make 5 trips to the bank in
one week to beat the checks clearing every night. That's when it is
tough to stick to your own lifestyle and form of artisitic expression.
Yet it is so liberating to operate outside of the mainstream. I adore
being around other people who have escaped the atmosphere of the
mundane. They inspire me. Actually it's mostly Nick's fault...he is
always reaching for the next level and has an insatiable appetite for
creating and performing music and connecting with other musicians and
fans. He has been, and continues to be, my motivation and mentor as far
as my music is concerned. He's my demanding buddy.
Scott: What's it like having a heart that's black ?
Shelia: It's good and it's bad. I think everyone
has a tainted heart because if you've lived and loved...you've
experienced disappointments...with yourself and with others. What you
do with the blackness is what matters. Do you hide it??? Do you torment
yourself or others with it??? Do you embrace it??? It can take years to
see yourself clearly and to forgive yourself and others for screwing up
your life. Then one day you realize that everyone's life is screwed up
in some way. Then you realize it's not screwed up it's just the nature
of existence to have a variety of experiences, some created out of your
own stupidity, others through no fault of your own. I write and sing
about dark subjects on occassion because it is our failures that shape
us into real people with histories, addictions, victories, and
struggles. I really love the dark side of my own self because when I go
there I feel really alive. I can also celebrate the part of myself/my
heart that is happy and satisfied with my life right now. Both aspects
of the self should be explored and experienced. I can be a pretty moody
person sometimes. That comes across in the music I'm sure. I've been
reading a lot of the Dalai Lama's writings lately. He talks a lot about
being humble, and peaceful, and looking inside yourself, and being
empathetic. It's really opening my mind to a whole new level of
thinking about myself and the world around me. I am here to serve
others. This is a BIG concept to grasp and implement....but it's a very
exciting journey.
Nick: I think when we write songs all the dark feelings naturally start
to pour out of us...at the same time we want to make it fun and a
positive accomplishment...It's a really great way to take out your
hostilities!
Scott: Some of your songs deal at least in part with political issues.
Concerning your song Wish, what's the difference between the world you
wished for and the world that exists right now ?
Shelia: I call 2004 my "Year of Enlightenment". I
became pretty involved during the election AND discovered this
absolutely wonderful public TV station out of San Francisco that airs
incredible documentaries concerning politics, human rights, the
environment, etc. You can check out the station at www.linktv.com. It
is only available if you get DIRECTV or DISH network. The lyrics for
WISH "My tounge is tied with modern life. It tastes like my and your
distress. My ears collide with worldwide lies. They have blinded me
just like everyone. Wish. Wish like everyone" reflect the days when you
just feel the world is exactly opposite of where you are. The goals of
acquiring wealth, non-renewable resources (oil), and continued economic
growth have become the most important objectives pursued by our
government and brain-washed into us as citizens via the U.S. media and
governmental / corporate propaganda campaigns . Unfortunately...while
these objectives can assist in making us comfortable...happiness
continues to allude most Americans. People are gluttons for more...and
the more they get..the more they want..and the more they have to have
to satisfy their appetite for material things. I think America has it
all wrong in so many ways. We've got a pill for everything....personal
debt out the wazoo...fast food on every corner...corporations sucking
the life out of our families....and for what??? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The
almighty (albeit weakening) dollar. I'm on a personal crusade to earn
less, to buy less..to live a sustainable existence that respects the
planet and our brothers and sisters everywhere. I don't have it all
figured out yet..but I'm getting there. Demand by people like us is
fueling the system. Cut off the demand. The system will have to respond
and act responsibly with respect to people and the planet. What I wish
for is for people to wake up and change their own lives to become more
in harmony with each other and our environment. There's a quote on my
wall.."We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we
give". Sounds hokey but it's true. Stop buying some much stuff/junk,
share what you have, and generally just give a crap about somone other
than yourself. That's what I wish people would do. That's what I wish
the "system" would reward.
Nick: There are too many things that don't make sense. What about the
person who just wants to enjoy life and does not care about making big
money? The norm is to run around working yourself to death as most
people do... the government/economic machine do not promote that kind
of lifestyle....they want us to buy everything in sight and pay it off
for the rest of our lives.
Scott: Do you believe in UFOs, had any strange experiences in that realm
?
Shelia: Yes, I have to believe in UFO's. Nick is
definitely an alien.
Nick: Don't take me to your leader!