My first encounter with Neil was when I wrote him several years after I had left the site, about an issue with an artist I brought to IAC. I soon found that even though he had experienced some frustration with the site he had become majority owner of, he still cared about IAC and the artists there. We had a long running conversation about the future of the site and although at the time I was quite adamant that I didn't want to do a relaunch til the stat situation was fixed, it did become pretty clear that the site was still valued by the heart of the membership, so we did the relaunch anyway. Then we got the stats rolling and did some other vital fixes so what's now IMP is without a doubt superior to the original site. Course I got to know Neil during this time and found him to be a serious artist and musical spokesman. This interview is long overdue but it comes at a time when Neil is releasing a new series of books about his life and music. The man has a lot of stories and there is much to learn from him and his journey. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Scott:
So tell us about the first time you picked up a guitar and
the
first time you wrote a song. Neil
w: Best as I can remember now, it would have been in the
early
1950's. I would have been about ten years old perhaps. A neighbour
across the
road from our farm gave it to me. It already had a few years on it -
likely a
few more than I had on me. I had already had a taste of writing poetry
having
co-written one at the time with a cousin a few years older than me. I
typed
(hunt and pecked) it on my father's shiny black Underwood typewriter -
you know
the kind I'm talking about - the kind that reporters, journalists and
authors used in days gone by to type their stories, essays and
manuscripts. I
likened my father’s Underwood to one Ernest Hemingway might have used
to type
his manuscript for Farewell
to Arms or For
Whom the Bell Tolls, or any of
his other great novels. Not surprising to those who know me, I
still have the page that I typed that poem on, although it has yellowed
over
the many years of being squirreled away in my archives. Sadly, my
father’s old
Underwood did not survive the years. Not that many years ago, a rusted
and long
since used relic of the 1950’s, it went the way of likely thousands
more from
that era. On occasion when I happen to see one like it in a memorabilia
store
or flea market, I pine for the one I let go. It would
have been a nostalgic memory from the time when he started up his John
Deere
Farm Implement dealership in Simcoe, Ontario. My
mentor in those early years was
Gerry Risser -a friend and accomplished guitarist. Gerry was a product
of the
birth of rock 'n roll in the 1950's getting his start playing guitar in
'The
Mel-O-Denes', a rock band in his hometown of London Ontario. From that
start,
Gerry performed with The Capers - a London group that included drummer
Garth
Hudson who went on to perform with Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks and
later with
The Band. The Capers had their own TV show on CFPL Channel 10 in
London. Gerry
landed a recording contract in Detroit and had personal appearances
with such
artists as The Everly Brothers, Paul Anka, Jimmie Rogers, Bill Haley
& The
Comets, Johnny Cash and others. You
asked though when I first wrote
a song - 1959 was the year that I scribbled two songs in the back pages
of one
of my high school notebooks - likely during a class when I should have
been
paying attention to the teacher. Forty-seven years later they both made
the cut
for my debut CD album, No
Looking Back that I was then
recording and that was released in August 2007. Those two songs were
and are,
"Got Nothin' To Lose",
and, "There's Just
The One And Only You"
... and that presents an opportunity for me to segue into your next
question.
Neil
w: Yes, I have been doing some writing other than
songwriting and
poetry since releasing my debut CD album No Looking Back in 2007, my mp3
Christmas song single, “That’s
What Christmas Means To Me”
December 2010, and my second album What Difference Will It Make in 2012.
A
couple of weeks ago on July 8th,
I made my debut as an author with the release of Book 1 of my 2-book
novel
(fiction), The
Summer Garden and the Song. Book 1 (447 pages) is
titled The
Summer Garden and the Song: The Circle of Life. It
is a coming of age
story, a love story – a story of loves gained, loves lost, and loves
unconditional. It is the story of Mick Neilson, the Circle of Life, the
Summer
Garden, and a song. It is set in 1959 in Norfolk County – the heartland
of
tobacco country in Southwestern Ontario. You
might find it curious that the
novel was the result and fulfillment of a promise that I had made in my
graduation year from university in 1964 to a first year student who I
was
tutoring in Economics 101 at the time prior to final exams. After
learning that
I was somewhat of a songwriter and writer of poems and short stories,
she asked
if I would let her read some of my poems and short stories - all just
hand-written on ordinary schoolroom notepaper. One poem had struck her
so
emotionally that she asked if I would promise that I would write a
novel one
day. I said I would, although I said I couldn't promise when I might.
After
graduation, I never saw her again, although she had written to me
several times
that summer. In her last letter she said she was looking forward to
reading my
novel. That as I said, was 1964. I
never forgot having made that promise, but like much else in my
life after graduation, with a family as well as my multi-focused
entrepreneurial career beginning to unfold, there was never a dull
moment or
free time to even think about writing a novel. In 2007 though and after releasing my debut CD No Looking Back, two friends, Rosie Hamlin and Dee Dee (Sperling) Phelps played important roles in providing the inspiration and encouragement that resulted in The Summer Garden and the Song seeing the light of day. Rosie
was the lead singer in the
1960's group Rosie and the Originals. Their song "Angel Baby" was a
top 40 hit in 1961. The song was covered by John Lennon. It was also
featured
in the 1995
independent American drama film, My Family / Mi Familia. Dee
Dee and her singing partner
Dick St. John Gosting (Dick St. John), known professionally as Dick and
Dee
Dee, also had a hit single in 1961, "The Mountain's High". The song
reached number 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in September 1961. I
have both of those 45's in my
1956 Wurlitzer Centennial model jukebox. It plays just as good as it
did back
in the day. Sadly,
Dick St John died in 2006
from falling off the roof of his house in Pacific Palisades, California. Interestingly,
very early in the novel when I was writing a
conversation that the two main characters were having, unexpectedly and
completely
out of the blue, the young man said to his girlfriend, "There's
just the one and only you."
After giving my head a shake at the coincidence of the song of the same
title
that I had written in 1959 finding its way into the fictional
conversation I
was writing, from that point on the song became the love theme woven
through
the pages of The
Summer Garden and the Song. When
I had completed writing the manuscript and about the time I
submitted it to my publisher, I set out to try to locate the girl that
I had
made the promise to in 1964. My first step was to contact the alumni
department
at the university where I graduated that year. I gave the alumni staff
member
the information that I knew about her from 1964, and within a few days
the
member emailed and said she had located the girl and that she was
living very
close to where I live - proving once again that it really is a small
world. In
any event, she received
permission from her to give me her telephone number, telling her that I
had
some interesting news to tell her. I can tell you that when I called
her and
told her my reason for wanting to talk to her was to tell her that I
had
finally fulfilled my promise to write a novel, she was more than
surprised -
dumbfounded and shocked was more like it, but very pleasantly though
when it
finally sunk in. Just a few days ago, I went to see her - the first
time since
1964, and gave her a personalized and autographed copy of Book 1. Book
2 is already written and is currently going through the final
editing and formatting process by the publisher. The title of Book 2 is
The
Summer Garden and the Song: Harvest. It will be
released in October. Book
1 is available from my publisher, Cavern of Dreams
(www.cavernofdreams.com) and also through my website
(www.neilwyoung.com). It
is also available at Amazon.ca There
may be a Book 3, although that is not currently in my plans for 2017. Scott:
You've been around country music for awhile, ever met any of
the big stars? Any
anecdotes? Well,
let's say that while my genre
of choice in my recording career to date has for the most part been
Country, my
songwriting and interest in music has not been limited to that genre,
although
it might be argued that Rockabilly, Rock and Roll and easy-listening
ballads
all had roots in Country. I
have met a few of the “big” stars
of my time and seen many of them too such as Ricky Nelson, Roy Orbison,
Chuck
Berry, Bobby Vee, the Everly Brothers, Paul Anka, Cher, Lou Christie,
the
Righteous Brothers, The Who, the Rolling Stones, Neil Diamond, AC DC,
Kris
Kristofferson, the Guess Who, Rush, Tommy Roe, Freddie Cannon, the
Beach Boys,
the Pointer Sisters, Dionne Warwick, Billy Joel, Frankie Valli and the
Four
Seasons, Diana Ross and the Supremes, Wayne Newton, and yes, I have
attended
several of my namesake's concerts - tried not to inhale … gave in a few
times. I
have met Fats Domino and have
seen him several times. I also have met Bobby Vinton as well as Jan and
Dean
when I promoted their shows in 1987. As
for anecdotes, one that quickly
comes to mind is receiving a lovely hand-written note from Rick
Nelson's
mother, Harriet Nelson, in August 1986 thanking me for the lyrics to
the song I
had written the night Rick died in a plane crash in Texas that New
Year's Eve. The letter is treasured, framed
and hanging in my music room. While
not related to country music,
I was given a credit as Special Consultant in the 2003 documentary film
Piaf:
Her story, Her Songs featuring California singer
Raquel Bitton along
with legendary composer Francis Lai in cameo remembrances and who wrote
for
Edith Piaf, and others who knew the French singer. That involvement took me to George Lucas' Skywalker Ranch in California for the editing session of the film then back to Toronto Ontario for its debut screening at the elegant Elgin Theatre. The film won first place at the 25th Classic Telly awards. It is available at Amazon and Netflix. Scott: Do you like the Beatles and Stones? What's your favorite mainstream act that isn't country? Yes,
I liked the Beatles and the
Stones from the minute I first heard them in the early 1960's when I
was in
university. My
favourite mainstream act that
isn’t country – if they can still be called “mainstream” would have to
be the
Rolling Stones, as well as one that might surprise you and that hasn't
kicked
up much dust lately, a Las Vegas born group – The Killers. Their video “All These Things That I've Done” and the scenes in the video of Young's Neon Sign Boneyard in Las Vegas brought back memories of the times I had tramped through rows of neon sign skeletons at the Young Electric Sign Company when it was located on Cameron Street in Vegas looking for pieces that I thought I could use. The sign company eventually donated a lot of the signs it had stored at its location to the Neon Museum in Vegas that opened in 2012. Neil
w: While it would likely seem
insignificant to many, and while being far from earth shaking, the day
I held a
copy of my debut CD album No
Looking Back in my hands was a
milestone event in my late-in-life music career as a recording artist. Actually though, every event and performance has a special place in my memories. Also, seeing people getting up and dancing when I'm performing is as good as a royal salute to me. One of the greatest rewards music has given to me though are the many friends and fans around the world that have come into my life.
Scott:
I was listening to your song Tunnel of Love and Bumper Cars.
You seem like you are a nostalgic guy. What was it like for you in high
school?
Do you still communicate with any of those people? What were you like
then? Neil w: Many of the songs that I have written – including “The Tunnel of Love and Bumper Cars” that you mentioned, as well as the two aforementioned songs that I wrote in 1959, speak to the influence and inspiration the many legends of rock and roll, country and rockabilly music that I listened to and loved during my teen and high school years had on me. The
Bio & Photo History page on
my website paints a pretty accurate picture of me as a nostalgic kind
of guy.
In fact a line that I wrote in Book 1 of my aforementioned novel that
just
might get quoted in time confirms that nostalgia plays an important
role in my
life: “Next to our dreams,
memories
are our greatest treasure.” High
school and the influence and
inspiration of the music in the 1950's were more meaningful to me than
I think
I realized at the time, and for sure, they played an instrumental role
in how I
developed as a songwriter. As
for what was I like in high
school: I think it is fairly safe to say that I was popular and
well-liked. I
was also a Western Ontario Secondary (High School) Honor Athlete in
1960. Yes,
I still keep in touch with
several of my high school classmates. Scott:
What's
it like going thru life with the name Neil Young? Any stories on that? Neil w: Well, I
was named after my paternal grandfather and great-great grandfather
- both old Scotsmen, so the name fits well on me and always has. In
reference to your question though referring I realize to my more
accomplished
and successful countryman, I had already written the two aforementioned
songs
that made the cut for my debut CD album, had graduated from university,
was
married with two children and was well on my way going through life as
an
entrepreneur during the day and a somewhat singer-songwriter at night
before
Neil became a phenom and household word. Besides,
I am a few years older
than Neil, and to tell the truth, it has never bothered me with him
having the
same first and last name as me (tongue-in-cheek). I'd guess off-hand
though
that him sharing the same first and last name with me, or me with him,
hasn't
hurt my late-in-life career as a recording artist - to the contrary
likely I
would wager, and I'm sure my recording career hasn't damaged his - or
at least
I would hope not as I have a great deal of respect for Neil, so much so
that
out of respect I do not cover any of his songs. As
you might expect though, hardly
a day goes by that when I have to give my name for anything, it results
in
being a great conversation starter and invariably gives me an
opportunity to do
a little shameless self-promotion, and just as often add another
potential fan.
I always carry 4" x 6" personalized postcards printed on both sides -
my picture on one side and promo pictures of my CD covers and other
pictures
and information about my music and website on the other. As
for any stories about my
namesake – well, while I have never met Neil, I would welcome the
opportunity
should it ever develop. Scott Young though, a Canadian
journalist, sportswriter, novelist and the father of Neil and his
sister
Astrid, autographed his book Neil
and Me to me as follows: “To
another Neil Young from the proud father
of the 1945 one.” That was as much a hint of acceptance into
Neil's world
as it was a special complement to me. Neil
w: First, and although you didn't ask, it should
be clarified that my position as Chairman of IMP has somewhat limited
ability
given there has yet to be a Board of Directors formed that I would
normally
report to, however given the fiscal structure of IMP as it now stands,
my
duties are limited to being an overseer of management activities;
making myself
available to be involved with the strategic planning of events and to
insure
that all activities are conducted and carried out in accordance with
IMP's
mission and generally accepted business practices, endeavoring to
maintain a
position of neutrality while seeing that business protocols are
implemented and
followed, and offering advice and insights. How
do I think the site is doing? While it is
still not yet out of the woods and is in dire need of revenue, it has
made
advances and has continued to improve with time following the
successful
relaunch over a year ago, thanks to the efforts of Scott Stambaugh who
I
encouraged a couple of years ago to return to the site and to become
active
again bringing the benefit of his experience and involvement as one of
the
founders of IACMusic as IMP was formally known, as well as the
commitment and
drive that he has exhibited to push IMP forward and hopefully upward. The
site has sputtered from time to time in
efforts to present a favourable and professional face not only to the
existing
membership, but also to the general public, as well as presenting an
inviting
opportunity for new members to join. Further on the positive side, site
traffic
has continued to slowly improve and new members are in fact being
attracted and
gained, all of which one would think might or should attract the
interest of
potential advertisers and resulting in a much needed revenue stream.
That has
yet to happen. Since
the relaunch, there have been a few bumps
and hiccups. The membership is to be commended for their tolerance and
patience
while the bumps were being smoothed out. I'm sure not all members
realize that
99% of the work being carried out behind the scenes is performed
voluntarily by
a few who have given their heart and soul to IMP, and to IAC before the
relaunch, as well as by a very few who have given financially in very
substantial terms in their belief and commitment to the site. Also to be thanked and duly recognized
– and
greatly appreciated – are those few members who have stepped forward
and agreed
to be a part of the $20 (Twenty Dollar) Club and who contribute
(donate) $20,
or however much they can spare monthly, to help pay the server bill,
which if
not paid, the site goes dark until it is.
Scott:
I saw on your page you
were involved with Rhapsody on Ice, how did that come about and was it
a fun
experience? Neil
w: It is a rather long story and perhaps not of a
great deal of interest to members of IMP. It came about through both of
our
daughters having been involved in figure skating at an early age. I
took an
active interest in the sport and respective organizations serving in
several
capacities including president of our local figure skating club. After
spending
15 years involved in the sport as a parent, a volunteer and an
administrator, I
became acutely aware of the limitations that existed for young skaters
when
they reached their mid to late teens with little to no chance of ever
advancing
any further in the sport or having the opportunity to join a
professional ice
show such as Ice
Capades or Ice
Follies, and subsequently
hanging up their skates and seeing all they had learned and developed
over the
years going nowhere from that point on. I saw that as an opportunity to
provide
and build a program where they could continue in the sport without the
strict
regimen of tests and competitions, but rather as proud ambassadors of
their
sport, their hometowns and of Canada. In
July of 1985 I founded Rhapsody
On Ice on the
premise that it would be a world touring troupe of precision /
synchronized
figure skaters and ice dancers for girls over the age of 16.
Advertisements
were placed in area newspapers and interviews were held in August
resulting in
the selection of 20 girls between the age 16 and 25. Within three
months, the
troupe was the featured performance in a show that I had organized and
that
included a number of professional skaters, national and world champions
that I
had engaged to be a part of the show. Our
next event was being the sole approved
Canadian part of the May 26, 1986 world-wide Sport Aid event that was
organized by Bob Geldof (The Boomtown Rats). I negotiated use of the
ice rink
in the West Edmonton Mall in Edmonton Alberta to stage our event that I
named “Skate
For Life – Skate With The Stars”. I once again
engaged a number of
professional and national champions who were happy to freely
participate, as
did a couple of team members of the National Hockey League Edmonton
Oilers. Air
Canada covered the return air fare for the troupe from Toronto to
Edmonton and
back to Toronto. I was also fortunate to have Otto Jelinek, a member of
Parliament and Minster of Fitness and Amateur Sport in Canada at the
time - who
with his sister Maria were 1962 World Pairs Champions – agree to travel
from
Ottawa to Edmonton to officially open and participate in the event. From
there, I took Rhapsody
On Ice around
the world for seven years between 1986 and 1992, starting with a tour
to
Australia in 1986 including performances in Hawaii, followed by a U.S.
Tour in
1987 to Florida, Arizona, California and again to Hawaii, a tour of New
Zealand
and Australia again in 1988, Hong Kong in 1989 including being featured
performers at the Skate
Asia Gala held at the Hong Kong Coliseum, a 1990
tour to
England, France and Spain, and to Denmark in 1992. Planned
tours to Yugoslavia and to Dubai were
shelved with political caution being provided to us due to the
potential and
eventual Civil War in Yugoslavia and the Gulf War. With
other responsibilities beginning to occupy
much of my time and due to a promoter bailing on sponsoring a tour for
a new
show – Cotton Club
Express, that we had developed and were planning to
take on a world tour, following our performances in Denmark I
reluctantly
closed the curtains on Rhapsody
On Ice, but not before
having created once-in-a-lifetime opportunities and memories for the
skaters
that they otherwise would never have had a chance to experience. It
was a fun experience filled though with
challenges and hurdles to overcome along the way, in addition to heavy
responsibilities during each of the tours the troupe made circling the
globe. There
is more about Rhapsody
On Ice on my
website as well as on two Facebook pages that I set up last year as a
walk down
Rhapsody's memory lane. Scott:
I looked at your domain
site, a whole lot of history there. You look like quite the gentleman
in your
youth, was yours a strict upbringing? Neil
w: My
website includes a fair bit of my history – all too much to repeat
here. It is
there for the interested. As
for my upbringing, I did not and have never
considered it as being strict. As a child I was given and shown love
and was
taught manners, respect and decorum. I endeavored to give, show and
teach those
same qualities to my children, as well as treat others throughout my
life the
same. Like
I said in the lyrics to my
song “Old Memories”
- the title track of my new CD album of the same
name, I was raised a country boy. That speaks to one of the foundations
of my
upbringing.
Scott:
We ask this question of
all we interview. Have you had any experiences of high strangeness like
UFOs, ghosts,
the supernatural? Neil w: An
interesting question. I have not
encountered or experienced the sighting of UFO's, although I wouldn't
discount
the possibility of there being some. As for ghosts and the supernatural
– lumped together, to me they represent “paranormal” events, to which I
would
begin by saying that while I have likely inherited some of my late
father's
skepticism (which near the end of his life, those walls of skepticism
began to
crumble), I have experienced events that a realist might argue were
only a
figment of my imagination. They were though grounded in and connected
to life
events that I recognized. I do believe that one has to be receptive to
such
experiences. Not everyone is. Scott:
How do you feel about
the state of America, having had the chance to observe it thru the
various
generations? Neil
w: I remember the Korean War and the Cold War; I
remember Little Rock and the civil rights crisis of 1957; I remember
the Cuban
missile crisis and President Kennedy's showdown with Russia's Premier
Nikita Khrushchev;
I remember the failed CIA-sponsored Bay of Pigs invasion; I was on my
way to a
class at university when I heard that President Kennedy had been shot,
then two
hours later Lee Harvey Oswald being arrested, and then two days later
Oswald
being shot and killed by Jack Ruby while in custody in front of TV news
cameras. Unbelievable! I remember Bobby Kennedy being shot and the
Vietnam War,
and through it all America survived, continued to see new growth
future, set
new goals and horizons even into space, and continued to be seen as the
leading
light and strength in the free world. America overcame all of its dark
days in
true Pete Seeger “We Shall Overcome” ways and style. Fifteen years
later in the
aftermath of 9-11, the struggle continues and there are days when the
future
looks dim. On
another level, I remember as a young boy
entering my teens listening to Johnny Ray, Patti Page and Debbie
Reynolds on
our little AM kitchen radio; I loved – and still do - all the beautiful
“American” cars of the 1950's – in fact I had one myself – a 1954
Oldsmobile
Starfire convertible; I was there at the birth of rock and roll, I
remember
when Elvis took the world by storm with his hit “Heartbreak Hotel”, I knew
all the words to all the songs on the charts by Ricky Nelson, Johnny
Cash,
Eddie Cochran, the Everly Brothers, Chuck Berry, Gene Vincent, Gene
Pitney - “Liberty
Valance”, Phil Phillips and the Twilights - “Sea of Love”,
Jerry Lee
Lewis, Bobby Edwards, the Kalen Twins - “When”, Sonny James, Buddy
Holly, Ritchie
Valens and the Big Bopper – the list is full of legends and the
signature
sounds and songs of guitar gods of the time like Duane Eddy – “Rebel
Rouser”, The Ventures – “Walk, Don’t Run”, the Sufaris -
“Wipe
Out”, and the Rockin' Rebels - “Wild Weekend”; and I remember
Drive-In theatres. I
had a little Channel Master 6-transistor
radio that I carried with me everywhere I went like everyone does with
iPhones
and other devices today, and I played cat and mouse during class with
teachers
in high school trying to listen to bits and pieces of World Series
games
through the transistor radio earpiece. I faithfully watched American
Bandstand,
and I cried the day the music died, and through it all America
continued to
produce more talent and more success. It
wasn't all perfect or wonderful, or without
pain and suffering, or hurdles to overcome and challenges to be faced.
It is
the same today except the challenges are greater and the risks more
deadly. More
than ever it seems the world is facing a
divisive future – good vs evil. Given
the climate in the current U.S. election
campaign, it may be the same for America with the potential of
destroying its
heart and its greatness. I hope I'm wrong. Scott:
What's on the agenda for
Neil W. Young in 2017 and beyond? Neil
w: Well I have to finish 2016 first – my third CD
album, Old Memories
has just been released requiring a lot of follow
up work to do on its heels; Book 2 of my novel will be released in
October, and
with a little luck, my first CD album of cover songs from the late
1950's
(including one of my rockabilly songs) will be released in November. 2017
might see work begin on my fourth CD album
and possibly a Christmas album, and there is an outside chance I might
set in
to writing another book – perhaps Book 3 of The Summer Garden and the Song. Hopefully
2017 will see IMP's light shining
brighter and its future looking rosier, and I hope in some small way I
can
continue to make a contribution. If
there was a lucky star, I surely was born
under one – to which though I added years of hard work, sacrifice,
commitment
to family and friends, belief in myself and my life-long passion for
songwriting and music - it has been both my guiding light and my saving
light. Thanks
for asking the questions, and thanks for
the opportunity to share my answers and to give you a look at my world
through
my window of life. Peace. Neil
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