Scott:
ok first question, describe yourself as a human
being. :)
Tony:
I have a severe thinking
problem so I tend to stay awake and think stuff, even worry. I process
things
by writing a lot.
Sometimes
I forget to listen
to others while they speak because something they said made me think so
hard.
Sometimes that's the point where people misunderstand me: I do care, I
just
have adhd. I am open about it and other stuff like depression. Peer
support is
a huge part of who I am and helping others is near my heart.
Scott:
How did you get into
music and how was your band born?
Tony:
I
was born with musical
genes. My grand-grand-mother from mothers side was a novel writer,
composer and
a singer. My dad is an actor and also sings. Nearly everyone in our
family is
involved with music and those who aren't do other forms of art. I wrote
my
first song when I was 2,5 years old. I have a band background but now
I'm
working as a solo artist.
Scott:
I've read that you've had
dealings with depression. How is that
going? Does making music help?
Tony:
I
used to deal with
depression and there's always a risk to get depressed again. But I'm
not
depressed at the moment at all and I don't think the risk is that huge
with me
anymore. My bad days last like one to two days of apathy and that's it. I tend to suffer from
anxiety more if I get
stressed out, but I've learned what to do if that strikes. A part of my
depression was that I wasn't avare of my adhd, and I was fed wrong meds
for
years. Making music helps with everything. So does writing and sports.
And my
lovely peers from different scenes, like music scene and adhd support
groups. I
hope people would stop being ashamed of mental illnesses and
neurological
disorders and treat themselves and others with more love. I couldn't
have
written my songs like ' Murdering Lights ' without the experience. I
couldn't
sing about the emotions with credibility without the hurt.
Scott:
I was reading a story
about how you had Murdering Lights on your
PC for a long time, that you were coming back from some sort of hiatus.
This
made me curious about what happened that caused you into the period of
withdrawal?
Tony:
Attention
and low
self-esteem happened. I wanted to be in a band and make music. To
perform, to
do my thing. But then I realised I get anxiety if people stare at me
when I
sing. I suffer from a huge stage fright. I almost faint at times. My
old band
was a small one, but got some attention that scared me away to think if
I want
to be a performing artist at all. If I can do it. I'm afraid of
attention and I
get easily bored of me. Being an artist means talking about you and
receiving
people's interest in good and bad. I am thankful but at the same time
my
moments of low self-esteem make me think I don't deserve to be noticed. I also get anxiety and
wish to be unknown and
left alone. I feel the pressure if someone likes me: What if I
dissapoint them?
I wonder why God made me this way: To have a drive to do music and all
that
stuff artists do ( like photos ) but shy and panicking at the same
time.
TonyGirl is like a doll I play with and I try to keep that in mind if I
start
to feel grossed out of me. I've
promised
myself this time I'll do this properly and the best way I can even if I
faint
and puke. The most important thing is the music, not me. And there's
no-one
else to do my songs so what can you do. I also hope one day I can
perform
without fear. I sometimes can.
Scott:
You seem like a people
person. Is that true or are you also
sometimes a loner? Your song says you need no one. Is that true?
Tony:
I'm
a loner when I need to
process stuff. I like my alone time a lot. But I love my friends and
I'm
talkative. I'm an introvert-extrovert. I love to hang out with people
and I
love to leave.
The
song ' Whatever Happens
' like all the songs are a one emotional moment captured. It means I
was
dissapointed and tried to manage and wrote the song. The song is a tool
for the
listener to use in different ocasions. Like if you need to get away
from a
horrible relationship you can listen to it and sing along: ” Need no
one! ” And
then go somewhere to cry. I tried to sing that part with some
vulnerability and
like I only half mean what I sing. It's about a person who's trying to
convince
they need no one. But is it true? Of course not. We all need someone.
At least
I def do! Thanks to my friends I still exist.
The
song was written in two
parts. It originally didn't have the choir: ” Let haters hate, never
hesitate,
just be yourself, never be afraid ” and I added the part to be another
layer in
the song. If you get bullied you can use the song and mean: I need no
one who
makes me feel bad about me and I can do this on my own!
So
it's about whatever you
need at the moment in order to survive. Aaaand it's a bit sarcastic
too. ;)
Scott:
Tell us about your
songwriting process.
Tony:
In
a nutshell the song
starts to play in my head and then I write the lyrics down and record
the
melody by singing.
Almost
every time the melody
and the lyrics come at the same time but not always. I sometimes write
the lyrics
as if I'm a machine that experinces emotions and one day they have
mixed up in
my sub-conscious and just need to be printed out. The song can come up
anywhere
and anytime and then I need to find a way to immediately write it down.
I've
written music in weird places like bathrooms at work and while sitting
in a
bus. Afterwards it's not only you who's asking what do the lyrics mean.
I'm
also wondering what I mean at some points and find new meanings from my
own
lyrics as time goes by and I experience more. I sometimes forget what
they were
about and I'm like, did I really wrote this...? Some songs are so old
and I
have written so many of them. The upcoming one I wrote when I was 17
and partly
when I was 23 and I changed a small part of the lyrics this year.
After the birth of the song lyrics and
the
melody I need others help to do the guitars and so on, since I do not
play any
instruments. I'm involved in the producing of the song all the way and
I try to
make other musicians involved to understand what I mean by sending them
links
of songs from YouTube with notes like: ” I like the guitar sounds in
this one ”
and ” I like these drums. ” And sometimes I'm a bit funny and say
stupid things
like: ” I don't like that repeating sound that is like crickets. Can
you take
it away...? ” And the person I work with replies: ” Oh you mean the
hi-hat...?
” And I'm like I guess so... :D I've also wrote melodies to existing
guitar
riffs by singing. ' Murdering Lights ' was that type of a song but my
upcoming
one, U., was done my melody etc first and then the guitars by picking
up the
notes from my melody.
Scott:
What's the music scene
like where you are from?
Tony:
We
have a strong metal scene
in Finland. We also have a strong folk culture with some depressed dude
singing
with a guitar about how he drank his marriage and everything and life
sucks. In
here if you make a fuss about yourself and sing happy songs you're a
fake and
egoistic piece of shit. One singer-songwriter called Saara Aalto was
even
forced to leave the country because she was too perky and happy. We
just hate
positivity here unless it's rap music about drinking and pretended high
self-esteem. So TonyGirl should be okay here with depression but I
secretly
want to get naked and sing about happy stuff so let's see. And I always
accidentally make a fuss so...
Gladly,
I don't give a fuck!
Whatever happens it's for the best.
Scott:
Are Nirvana and Hole an
influence for you? How about the Beatles?
Tony:
I
don't think you get to
decide is The Beatles your influence or not if you are a musician born
after
them so I'll have to say yes. I like Hole but I relate to Kurt Cobain
more. I
miss the comfort in being sad. However Nirvana is not my biggest
influence or
the reason I make music. I do not think ” Oh, I want to be like this
and this
musician ” when the songs pop up in my head. I think about sounds later
when
the songs are produced and I try to do what describes the feeling of
the song
best and not what I want to be or who I sound like. Although, I've
experienced
that I've been compared to Courtney Love when there was no TonyGirl yet
so when
I recorded ' Murdering Lights ' I tried to avoid sounding like a
Courtney or a
Kurt copy. I just sang the song with the emotion I wanted to.
Afterwards I
still got compared to them both but with positive vibe. ” Sang with the
authority of Love but no harshness ” is a comment I cherish in my heart.
Scott:
What is the greatest and
worst experience you've had so far
involving your own music?
Tony:
The
worst one was when my
old band had to quit and I didn't know what to do with my stage fright.
It's
hard to trust your songs to new people and I loved my old bandmates
like my
brothers. I felt safe with them. It was like losing a part of your
youth for
good. The experiences with them were great and without them there also
wouldn't
be TonyGirl but now I guess I'll have to pick from the new ones. I'll
say the
best and greatest experience is that I've noticed some people have been
touched
by my song ' Murdering Lights ' and got empowered by ' Whatever Happens
'. So
I've succeeded in my main purpose: To give peer support with my music.
The
experience that it was a right thing to do to continue in music is
great.
Then
there's great stuff
like winning a Golden Kayak for ' Murdering Lights ' and being on '
Lady Voices
of indie ' , making the video for ' Murdering Lights ' and getting my
songs
reviewed by lot's of people. It's hard to pick one! So I'll just say
big thanks
to everyone involved and send lots of love to all the listeners of mine!
Scott:
Have you been in online
music long enough to be frustrated that
things aren't happening fast enough for you? What's the status of your
musical
dream?
Tony:
I've
been long enough in the
past to notice it's getting harder to get noticed. There are so many
social
media channels and so many artists, so many new rules. But I'm not
frustrated
and I don't think things aren't happening fast enough. The pace so far
has been
tolerable. I only started with TonyGirl a year and a half ago and here
I am
answering to your questions as a Golden Kayak winner, for example. I've
also
asked to do gigs but unfortunately I've had to say no and I'm sorry for
that.
So there's a lot I can still do before I get to say I'm frustrated.
TonyGirl
must try harder at first!
The
status of my musical
dream is to release a few more songs and start a band to do gigs. And
then to
release more songs. I also dream about interesting collaborations.
There's also
this tv show here in Finland called Vain El�m�� ( means ” it's only
life ” )
and to be there one day crying when another artist is singing my songs
is the
ultimate goal of my music career. I also dream about Dancing with stars.
Scott:
Was listening to Whatever
Happens and a picture came up with
somebody with a bloody mouth. Who got punched in the mouth and why?
More on
that song, that's a pretty optimistic point of view. I can always
re-build my
life. That's a great line. Have you ever had to rebuild your life?
Tony:
That
somebody was me but it
wasn't personal and I'd rather not talk about it so, bygones! But, I
think the
pic was perfect to be used with ' Whatever Happens ' to symbolize that
no
matter how hard life hits me I will survive and that negative stuff can
be
turned around to be positive. At least I want to believe I will
survive. But to
be honest, when I made the decision to use the pic, I didn't know that
later
I'd get post traumatic stress disorder. If I'd had those symptoms when
'
Whatever Happens ' was released I couldn't have used the picture. It's
not easy
to look at it, so I don't. Human mind is interesting: Post a photo and
don't
look at it that much again!
Thank
you for saying the
line ” I can always re-build my life ” is great. I feel like I've had
to
re-build my life so many times and all over and over again I just
really need
to believe that I can in order to stay sane. Doing it at this very
moment.
There have been moments I've felt the song is stupid and I hate it.
It's not
for all ocasions and moments.
Scott: So what was it like
coming across a site like
IMP that you'd never heard of and basically being thrust into the
limelight
there very quickly? You've had amazing success on our site, could the
world be
far behind?
Tony:
It
has been a blessing.
Without IMP there wouldn't have happened that much. And even without
the sudden
success I'd still be happy about the people I've met ( online ) through
IMP and
for all the new good music I've found. So thanks again!
I
don't want to think about
success and what if's. I want to concentrate on my artistic work and to
do my
best one day at a time. To follow my vision and leave the speculation
to
others. I believe you're only as good as your latest work and you can't
stop to
cherish your success and how awesome you are. Let's see if you like my
new song
' U. ' Let's see if
the listeners stay
to wait for another song after that one.
Scott:
I ask this question to
all Spotlight interviewees. Have you ever
had any experiences of high strangeness like with UFOs or the
supernatural
(ghosts, etc) ?
Tony:
Yes
I actually have had a
few. I've spent a night at an apartment where there was a case of a
poltergeist.
I tried to find another reason to what happened there but had to
believe it was
a ghost. I was so scared and tried to convince myself it can't be true.
Years
later I watched Ghost Hunters and realised it probably was true but I'm
not
scared anymore of that stuff. I'm surprised how many people I've come
across
with those experiences. It usually just can't be talked about. Nobody
wants to
be considered crazy. But hey, do dogs understand how a television
works? No.
But the television still exists. Have people always had a television?
No. But
they invented it. If we had a time machine and we'd throw a television
to
Middle Ages they'd think we are UFO's and the television is some sorta
witchcraft.
I believe one day science
can prove ghosts and
it's not anything special anymore. We just don't understand everything
yet. And
not everyone get's to experience the same things. It doesn't mean other
people
who get are crazy or stupid.
I
don't have experiences of
UFO's and I hope I will never have. I think people shouldn't try to
contact any
other possible civilizations because probably they would just kill us
all.
Although, I'm not sure if that would be necessarily such a bad thing
after all
considering how humans treat eachother and the earth. Whatever happens
it's for
the best!
Scott:
Are there more great
TonyGirl songs coming down the pike?
Tony: My
new song called ' U. ' is
about an abusive relationship. About a situation where your spouse is
threatening to commit suicide if you leave. It's about someone trying
to
control the other and to make you forget your dreams and live only for
them.
Never let anyone do that to you! Hope U like it!
Scott:
(a week or so later) ok, I've heard it and I do
like it, it
rocks! is that about somebody in particular?
Tony:
It's about two different relationships I've had with same
theme.
There will not be a third one like that. I think I've finally
learned my lesson. I wrote the song
mostly when I was
17 years old.
And I was surprised I had one similar kind of relationship over ten
years later.
Some
people are very clever to pretend.