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Conversation Suicide is One of Tucson Arizona's most amazing, and eclectic, underground collectives. They have been headed up by PHLEGM on BASS/VOCALS for over 15 years along with a hoary host of talented & creative musicians. Current CORE Lineup includes D-Lo on Vocals/Guitar, and CROSS on Drums/Vocals. Current Additional Guitar work and collaborations from ZTP (IAC Star), James Cass, Thomasina Cooper, Tommi SuperNova, Marshall Prescott, Steven Butt, Seth Mckernan, Jeff Rosen, Aaron Murgenthal, Rita Taylor, and IAC Phillie Great, Hugh Hamilton. We are also working with a few hip-hop artists, most notably: C-note, Cuffs, G, and The Country Boys. Along with a HUGE shout out to our most recently exited, amazing Drummer, Dan Ward, who's doin' a little "time". Associating with this collective includes the benefit of being the house band at one of the BEST Tucson UNDERGROUND MUSIC Scenes available, at their practice space in the ARTFEST MUSIC HAUS. These Shows at PHLEGM's humble abode have at times drawn more ears & eyes than than some of Tucson's sadly under-attended clubs. ARTFEST provides a venue for Musicians who create & perform ORIGINAL music and are tired of NOT getting any reward for doing it. Some of Tucson's Finest Musicians have been in the band CONVERSATION SUICIDE and many of that Local Scene's FINEST Bands, and associated musicians, have played one of their EARLY shows, before local acclaim, at an ARTFEST show. This has been going on for over 12 years. The foremost example are the bands, Diversion Program, & Sanity in DEATH (HAMMERMILL label), who not only played at PHLEGM & Princezzz' wedding but have played the ARTFEST Haus at LEAST once every couple of year since 2003. ALSO RECESS RECORDS band SWING DING AMIGOS and the members of SHARK PANTS played an ARTFEST, before they were signed. An interesting number of other SIGNED artists have done some time at an ARTFEST show in the early stages of their music careers. CONVERSATION SUICIDE, Get your D.I.Y. copy NOW, of their 3rd CD, "EBT - CONVERSATION SUICIDE" from the Record Label listed below, OR you can hear many tunes off that CD right here all beautifully mixed & mastered by Bradley Torrison of DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS. The first two STUDIO recorded CDs, "NOT A CHANCE IN HELL" and "Tucson Epidemic: Bands that shared the same Phlegm", have both been selling without the pretty packaging or BARCODE for $5.00 to $10.00, locally and abroad. You can order these sonically completed works NOW by mailing a $5 money order to the address listed under "record label" below, OR wait for the soon to be mass-produced, with GRAPHICS/LYRIX, etc.: "EBT - THE BEST OF CONVERSATION SUICIDE so far..." coming in 2010. ARTFEST MUSIC is partnering with ROMULUS X Records UK. This will be a compilation of some of our best work 2000-2009. So Beat the RUSH! Get your pre-release D.I.Y. copy NOW from your pal Phlegm! And be on the lookout for EARLY release of some of the tracks off the 2011 CD, "The Early Stages of Total Depravity".
Shine on out there all you crazy diamonds!

D.I.Y. Indie Record Label =
ARTFEST MUSIC
916 S. Elmerita
Tucson, AZ 85710 USA

New LABEL, as of 2010 =
Kenny Colgate and
School of Product Recall's
ROMULUS X RECORDS UK

	Friends It's about friends you meet along the way in this crazy-assed life of ours. Has a great Countri-fied Chorus, Don't you ThinK?		Country
	Party Tonight -by HIGH INTENTIONS Simple Des_c_r_i_p_tion = A song with a SIMPLE Message = " Let's PARTY TONIGHT !!!! "		Hard Alternative
	Fuck Buddy -NEW studio Track and LIVE YouTube the SCRATCH vocals we did, while recording bass/drums, are slightly off-key, and were off-the cuff; to be replaced with better, soon...here's a NEW poppy punk, "love" ballad for ya.		Pop Punk
	Salvage My Soul -Feat. Steven Butt on LEAD Guitar This is going to be fixed/mixed and mastered. Here's the RAW version, prior to our 2012 New DEMO release with Cross on Drums: "The Early Stages of Total Depravity"		Hard Alternative
	unfinished unmixed and unmastered WE MAKE THE ROCK This song features the Amen Break Beat from the 70s, original bass/vocals by pHLeGm, featuring Cuffs of The Country Boys, and some soon to be added guest/cameos. THIS IS JUST to tease, until Thommi Supernova and Natureboy jump on the track this Fall.... yeah boyeeeee !		Hip Hop/Rap
	I don't wanna Fight with U no more -LIVE JUST sloppy, FUN LIVE punk phrom phlegm & crew		Alternative
	pOt of gOLd - LIVE in the ARTFEST haus One of my phaVoUrites of the tunes I've colaborated on. Another of the HUNDREDS of tunes, we hope to someday record in the studio...		Hard Alternative
	Hard to Find (Studio take) School of Product Recall often says emphatically to pHLeGm: "Why does everything you do, sound like the Beatles, you damn wanker?"		Pop
	Simple I love you -( feat. Rita Taylor ) - LIVE just a badass LIVE funky li'l ditty, that ALMOST made it to the studio. I was really sad when this one got PULLED from the lineup for recording a couple of years ago.....and I'm STILL prayin' for livin' long enough to professionally record (with quality players) li'l tunes that CAN, like this...in the MEANTIME though, it's gonna be ALL NEW stuff, on this NEXT CD....		Hip/Hop Alternative
	Time in A Bottle All about a path taken that is not recommended		Hard Alternative
	I wallow in my Own Shit S'bout all things Conversation Suicide & HELL - written during a down time to purge the demons		Hard Alternative
	you look familiar this tune has done AMAZINGLY in Tucson, got played on Tucson's KXCI station a few times, by local celebrities and music DJ's Al Perry and Don Hennings...wooo hooo!		Pop
	Feelings comin' Down - LIVE (and VERY listenable) This song is an obvious happy/sad peppy little blues-rock POP tune, about how we FEEL when in LOVE sometimes...		Pop
	Eggshells One of Phlegm's Phirst poppy-rock songs - a little derivative, but kinda cool, catchy vibe...		Pop
	I feel like I'm dancin' in the street It's a VERY derivative, 60's soundin', poppy/happy tune from Phlegm. From the B-sides...		Pop
	In His Head Peaked at NO.29 in KIAC Big 50, Number 25 in the Underground 40, Number 1 in Hard Alternative, and made it into the TOP 5 of All Genres. And I couldn't be prouder!		alternative melodic metal
	The Sun Is Risin' Yes, influenced by AL Jourgensen in vocal styling / It's vampiri-licious ... Peaked at no. 5 in all genres and reached Number 1 in HARD Alternative.		Hard Alternative
	The One Once you get past the CHEEZY, but humorous acapella lounge intro by PRINCEZZZ & PHLEGM, designed to confuse & amuse- It's GREAT melodic Alterna-METAL with just a dab of GARGOYLE for Aggression.		Hard Alternative
	Private Hell This one's about somebody you probably know, the character referenced is a SHE, but doesn't necessarily need to be so... WELCOME to their PRIVATE HELL... it's easy to get sucked in.		Hard Alternative
	DUI GUY DONE with hurried punk speed in the studio for CHEAP, but still came out kinda cool. Peaked at number 1 in HARD ALTERNATIVE and made it to the TOP 10 of all genres.		Hard Alternative
	SHELL SHOCK It's really about the life of an addict, but COULD be interpreted as being about anybody who experienced some psychological/emotional trauma from the LOVELY War in the middle east as a service person.		Hard Alternative
	Tattoo My Fist It's pretty easy to figure out wha's goin' on in this one .... Duh... It's OUR attempt at writin' a bitchin' UNDERGROUND Anthem PLEASE Check out the humourous related BLOG!		Hard Alternative
	Transitions (Rita Taylor on backup vocals/guitar) All about being a musician and laying it all out there - I SO do MISS working with an AMAZING female singer/songwriter/guitarist !		indie rock
	Where's my Friggin' Pipe? " uhhhh..... what were we talkin' 'bout, man?" "urrrr...uhhhh....yeah...I don't remember either." "That's Conver-fuckin'-Sation Suicide dude! " "wow, man" "yeah, fully" " so, uh, What's Conversation Suicide, again?" "DOH! " "man.....you smoke ENTIRELY TOO much Herb!"		Hard Alternative
	Pussy Li'l Amp (Blues REMIX #25) It's Phlegm's Workin' Man BLues REDONE with the NEW band members		Blues
	Broken Joke (LIVE) A beatlesesque ditty with a slightly dark message... made it to TOP 10 of LIVE Performances so FAR Thanks to the Listeners!		Acoustic
	Here in This Hell - LIVE=Dedicated to Jim Franklin Here it is, the first of a few we did with ZTP as guest Lead Guitarist ! Dad, I know you're still making an impact, wherever you are....		Folk Rock
	Nasty Keys - LIVE and DEMENTED ambient piece yeah....I know it's a little long, but it was intended for a small background part in my upcoming first movie.		Musical Theatre
	On My Knees 2 Weep -LIVE with special guest=ZTP this one was from a love poem...		lofi
	For Gustino -( LIVE / LoVeRLy / Punk LaMeNT ) yup. Another Lo-Phi Gem pHRoM pHuCkinG pHLeGm !!!!!!!!		Live Performances
	Psychic Friend put this up due to a personal request from DirgeK's Mum (Jill) -It should bring at least one or two chuckles out there!		Comedy
	Don't Wanna Fuckin' Work No More -LIVE n' RAW Punk I don't wanna Fuckin' Work NO MORE ! but I gots to work a day job, mang. 'tis the LIFE of most musicians. WORK all Day, Play all Nite...you get the idea.		lofi
	7 Direct Damage-(NEW, raw trax- b4 mix/master) this is the first draft of a NEW one, that we currently play LIVE, and with the same lineup as shown below. I.E. D-Lo guitar/vocals, pHLeGm bass/vocals & CROSS drums/vocals.		Hard Alternative
	Drip (Soul Kiss) - LIVE, RAW and REAL Lo-Fi another Badass one from Conversation Suicide, that should have made it to the studio....		lofi
	Those RockaBILLy Workin' Man bLUEz - (LIVE) JUST yet another version of da blues, wit' dat pHLeGm pHuNk...		Live Performances
	Do Without it's silly poppy bluesy alterna rock. A little derivative, but fun.		Alternative Pop Rock
	Atlantis (LIVE) A song about writing a song of The Princezzz, The Poet & the Iron Horse		Live Performances
	Those Workin' Man Blues This is the original song by Phlegm that was SO loved by our TUCSON fans, we had to do "Pussy Li'l Amp-BLues remix #25" Well ... uh... yeah-this is the extended ORIGINAL version, complete with ficticious, but NOT entirely heretical ODE, to the BLUES Artists of OLD.		Blues
	Daffodils (LIVE) This song is a TRUE Story.... Well Almost!		lofi
	Oh, Don't you Know...(sultry LIVE mellow groove) A song about one of human-kind's phavourite poetic subjects = LOVE.		Acoustic
	YES-FX ( NEW hidden track from our previous CD ) This is the LAST track (after a 3 1/2 minute gap of dead air) on our previous CD - "EBT - The Best of Conversation Suicide so far..."		Experimental AvanteGarde
	Hardcore with Phlegm and C-note Just a cool moment of good FREE-stylin' by PHlegm and his HOMEY C-note over their original beats...		Hip Hop/Rap
	Kick Your Ass A Hate Anthem for your Ex		Hard Alternative
	Cellar Doors The alternative to actually murdering is to write a song about it. The TRUE definition of HARD alternative and Creepy serial killer vibes make it work nicely...Don't ya think?		Hard Alternative
	Whips and Chains Oh golly jeepers I do so LIKE her whips and chains!		Hard Alternative
	Jesus Hawker Yup. Pretty much Stonesy-bluesy-poppy ROck pHrOm pHLeGm		Pop
	Outta My Way -LIVE This one is obvious...Just GET OUTTA MY FUCKIN' WAY! Short, and to the POINT PUNK Phrom PHLEGM's long-winded ass!		Live Performances
	I wish I was a dog - LIVE - perfect 4 LoFi station Yet another silly li'l retro-style ditty, pretty cool, once you get past the intro.		Acoustic
	The Co-Dependent Lie (Goddamn!) - LIVE S'bout life with an abusive bi-polar person & the horrible cyclical truth		Live Performances
	We're in - We're Out (LIVE) ABOUT 911 events and the ensuing middle eastern conflict. Apparently in the middle of 2002, I turned into a PROPHET... predicting another Viet-nam like scenario. This crap has gone on for almost 7 years now. TIME TO END IT!		Live Performances
	No Responsibility Probably my WORST song vocally, but the MUSIC kicks ASS!		Hard Alternative
	Close yo' mutha fuckin' eyes It's a soon to be true story about censorship, flag burnin', etc.		Hard Alternative
	Funny Li'l Boyz It's got a GOOD message if you listen to the whole sarcastic piece - Mellow Hick Punk at it's finest.		Punk/Emo/Ska
	Basic Blues MIX (Keep it Rollin') We caught this little snippet at one of our many LIVE shows, and BRADLEY TORRISON, my favorite recording engineer was able to mix and master it for presentation on our STUDIO CD.		Blues
	FEEL HER WRATH ENTER her world IF you dare but don't be fooled by the glitter & gloss		Hard Alternative
	Fractured Love Song #23 about good sweet lovin' with a quirky message		Pop
	Burden of the Chain -LIVE n' la-la -LO-FI-Licious here's another new one, that hasn't made it to the studio yet. Even with all it's imperfections, it strongly captures our range of ideas & diversity of styles.		Folk Rock
	Vishnu -LIVE This song is another one of those "didn't make it to the studio" yet tunes that was played LIVE & with heart, and hopefully captures the VISION of what it WILL be, in the studio...		Live Performances
	Tell Me Why (so Schitzo) One of the first tunes I ever wrote a little derivative, but that's what happens when you start writing your own music...		Pop
	HUGH Look Familiar - the Hugh Hamilton Remix "this is da HUGH Hamilton meets PHLEGM REMIX!"		Pop
	Writing a song together-"To get Closer to You" another sweet li'l ditty.		Acoustic
	'bye Tucson, I'm Goin' to England Town -2010 LIVE Here's a pHaN pHav: LIVE and RAW n' REAL		Live Performances
	LIVE Interview on After Midnight With Lefty Gomez This is from the February 10th, 2011 Interview on the "After Midnight with Lefty Gomez" show on KNRY 1240 radio, in Monterey, California. A LOT of support for Indie, IACMusic, and IAC Artists mentioned... some fuckin' GREAT stuff in this interaction between pHLeGm & Lefty...		Speech
	Raymond Porter Interviews pHLeGm in Space This is the interview (PART 1) with Phlegm of Conversation Suicide, done by Raymond Porter near the end of 2008. As you can hear, I was actually visting Substation ALPHA -97 in outer space, while doing the Interview. So sorry about the poor sound quality from my end. But that's what happens when your millions of miles away, or in another dimension....		Live Performances
	Raymond Porter and pHLeGm in space, Part 2 This is part 2 of the lovely, but VERY LONG-winded (sorry!) Conversation with Conversation Suicide, done by Raymond Porter before the trip to the UK. Ray was gracious enough to interview me, even though my responses are from millions of lightyears away, from a communications substation; I believe it was somewhere near Planet 9 in the Bloxlargonian Galaxy. uhh... please forgive the poor sound quality of my voice. -pHLeGm		Live Performances

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Psyche's Muse	9/15/2025 1:54:48 AM WELCOME BACK! (Pappy pHLeGm ! ) -M-
Conversation Suicide	9/14/2025 10:31:27 PM WOW !!! This Site for INDIE / UNDERGROUND / UNKNOWN / UNSUNG / UNDERRATED MUSIC Collectives LIKE US > It's Still Alive and Kickin' !!!! This is Where it ALL STARTED for us, yo. GO INDIEMUSICPEOPLE.COM !!! GO Collin, of THE CODE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The CODE	9/3/2023 4:42:30 PM Yo Geeezeeer, still breathing?
Conversation Suicide	2/5/2019 3:39:00 PM THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU As I hustle Hard for NEW Day Job that I MUST Secure and have to focus on WORK & not MUSIC for the Remainder of this week I am Remembering to BE THANKFUL and SAY THANK YOU to Scott & ALL Other Benevolent Indie Music People Powers-That-Be - THANK YOU for such a GREAT SITE to SHARE our JOURNEY as INDIE/UNDERGROUND Artists with other Artists & THE WORLD !!! THANK YOU for GETTING my MUSIC working again So that ALL of Our SHARED Dreams of MUSIC can Once Again Be OUTPUT to the EARS, Hearts & Minds of ALL Ye FaithFul Indie Music People !! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU and THAT is My Attitude of Gratitude as we move towards Valentines Day 2019 ! -Peace & Spread the LOVE, > Pappy pHLeGm
Conversation Suicide	1/31/2019 9:06:04 PM Yeah I've tried all of the OBVIOUS stuff- removing all DEAD songs (uncomplete entries) and Getting RID of ALL Video LINKS & Embeded Code, etc.... Sigh. The People Have a RIGHT to HEAR my Interesting Collection of DIVERSE Collaborations With some SUPER-POWERED Tucson Talent ! PRETTY PLEASE to the Indie Music People Powers-That-Be : Help a Brother Out, yo. -Respectfully Submitted, > Pappy pHLeGm
Psyche's Muse	1/30/2019 12:04:45 PM Sorry, Phlegm... but your stuff's still not playin' for me! -M-
Conversation Suicide	1/29/2019 5:33:06 AM urrr... spelled correctly now, " Psyche's Muse " ...
Conversation Suicide	1/29/2019 5:31:47 AM Oh CRAP !@! I just noticed the PSych's Muse warned me about the Music NOT PLAYING AT ALL THREE YEARS AGO !!! PLEASE, OH PLEASE Father Time, Scott & Whoever else has the Controls to piloting the Kayak down the PipeLine Please Fix THIS ASAP. P.s. Paul Groover = I'm very interested in collaborating somehow and how the heck did you hear my new track if it won't play? It was mentioned on an AWARDS SHOW>?? WOW ! Tell me more, my good man.
Conversation Suicide	1/29/2019 5:25:35 AM Great to be Back, y'all !! and thanks for alerting me that nothing is playing StoneMan !! Here's Hoping the power's-that-be will fix that problem with a Quickness- -Especially Now that I've commented & Blogged About it. ...AND Submitted a Bran-New Track>that ALSO will not Play. (Sad-Faced Emojii Goes Right HERE)
Stoneman	1/29/2019 1:32:52 AM Tried to listen but nothing plays. Good to see you back around here Phlegm! Keep Grinding brother! Much Respect, Stoneman
Paul groover	1/25/2019 7:41:14 PM See your back fancy doing a song together. I made some rock songs wondered if you would be interested in having a bash. Cannot seem to find the right vox for it. I have titles and the songs but no lyrics so far. I bought my dream guitar a white with gold hardware and a bigsby semi-acoustic. So this is why all the rock songs. Heard your new song on the awards show cracking.
Paul groover	1/25/2019 6:14:40 PM See your back fancy doing a song together. I made some rock songs wondered if you would be interested in having a bash. Cannot seem to find the right vox for it. I have titles and the songs but no lyrics so far. I bought my dream guitar a white with gold hardware and a bigsby semi-acoustic. So this is why all the rock songs. Heard your new song on the awards show cracking.
Psyche's Muse	3/19/2018 6:37:18 AM ...YOUR TUNES STILL WON'T PLAY !
Psyche's Muse	5/20/2016 3:26:20 AM ...Hey! Your stuffs not playin' from your Artist Page here!!! ...won't play anything I've been "clicking" on! ...you might want to check this out! ***FYI - your song "In His Head" WILL PLAY from my station called "I Like Strange". Later! -M-
Conversation Suicide	1/8/2013 6:41:48 PM Thanx Mr. Grooves... As you well know your Shit is badass, so your opinion means a wee bit more... Rock on!
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