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negative tendencies
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6/23/2020 10:23:54 AM
the ad that will kill Trump.
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ggreg
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6/24/2020 1:19:47 PM
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Reverend Black Dog
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6/28/2020 9:52:06 PM
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crap - this Anti-Trump ad is crap - just like the news crap /
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Reverend Black Dog
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6/28/2020 9:58:11 PM
"NYC hospitals murdering..." yes, is it a race thing? no ... race is a divisive tactic right now. BLM is a communist front group. This is a secondary issue right now, divisive diversion.
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Father Time
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6/29/2020 7:36:52 AM
nothing crap about it. and BLM is a patriotic group.
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ggreg
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6/30/2020 9:55:26 AM
I think it's more of a numbers thing myself. Other nurses and doctors have made the same reports and the cavalier attitude over loss of life seemed pretty common. 50% - 70% of deaths were in nursing homes after they were forced to accept Covid infected patients via various governor's decree. That and a 90% death rate among people put on ventilators who according to ICU Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, were not needed for any of them. Factor that total in with all the people who's death certificates were marked as Covid-19 yet in reality died of completely unrelated causes?
So did anyone really die from this virus other than those who's time was already up? According to Dr Sam Fawaz, the worst of the Covid-19 virus had already passed when the false alarms were sounded.
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ggreg
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6/30/2020 11:32:10 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157829378913462&set=a.51767338461&type=3&theater
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ggreg
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6/30/2020 1:06:16 PM
Ever hear of the Tides Foundation before Scott???
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Stoneman
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7/2/2020 2:09:45 AM
BLM is not a communist group. Stop The Lies!
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Reverend Black Dog
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7/3/2020 2:51:29 PM
WARNING: The Real Power and Purpose Behind the ‘Black Lives Matter’ Movement
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Stoneman
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7/13/2020 4:13:50 PM
More Crap that you should not believe. But very creative lies. They did the same dhit to Dr. King in his day. It was all proven false bullshit. Just more crap! Without funds, no organization can exist. What better way to discredit an organization that by making false claim about its donors. They claimed Dr, King was a communist. Bunch of lies! There will be more. The organization has now gone worldwide in its scpe of influence. They will start smear campaigns and tell as many lies as possible to keep them from reaching the kind of power that brings real change and not the bullshit that the politicians hold up and then take back down after an election. Part of the appeal of the lie is that they use Back people to perpetrate the lies. Nothing new here. This tactic has been used thousands of times to quell rebellions to colonial actions towards slaves and descendants of slaves. Part of the patented strategy has always been to divide and conquer. So, they trot out their Kanye's and Candice's to counter the truth with lies. Never mind the fact that those people don't represent us. Back in the day it was the house slaves against the field slaves. The faces may change but the strategy remains the same. Divide and conquer and then keep everything as the status quo. Nothing changes. Just more Black and Brown people killed for no reason and without any reckoning. So, do all BLM bashing. It has been done before and nobody cares about this crap. We care about justice and the lack there of for Black people. BLM has been a valuable asset towards bringing attention to the murders. That is why they are truing to discredit them. Their (BLM) efforts for change have been fruitful and the forces of evil hate that. Anyone propagating these lies are suspected of White nationalism similar to the president (who is without a doubt a racist) and their assertions are tainted by the White Supremacist belief structure. Stop The Lies!
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7/14/2020 10:49:56 PM
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My main heritage is Slavic, and this is the definition of that name.
"The term SLAV comes from Latin(Sclavus), adopted in English and other west European languages, it means slave which is a derogatory term used to defame east Europeans."
The list of expulsions, slaughters, exterminations, enslavement, ect is too long to put here, I'm just thankful I didn't have to experience what my older relatives did, none of them could ever have a normal life after experiences like Auschwitz, Treblinka, forced conscription, the Gulags, ect.
But I put these things all into perspective. The people themselves are usually blameless but their leaders I have less sympathy for, whether it's another petty dictator or religious leaders who don't understand simple mathematical equations that costs everyone eventually.
Man's inhumanity to man is probably far worse today than it's ever been, google the Dalits (Untouchables) in India sometime. Imagine a world where children routinely have their limbs chopped off or their eyes gouged out so they can earn more money begging. Or a world where mothers will sell their daughters to Temples for immoral purposes so they don't have to spend their lives cleaning human waste. (Maybe we should all walk in their shoes for a few weeks or so, that would surely be a reality check.)
But as far as the current issues now playing out? I think it's a pretty safe bet this will pass over time, probably in the next 2-3 generations. There will still still be scattered uprisings and disturbances like what we're seeing today, and everywhere in between not a word of English will be spoken.
It's called divide & conquer, right? That sir, is the end game...
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Stoneman
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7/15/2020 4:23:24 PM
That ius a part of the problem. So many people see this as a game. This is not a game and trying to compare atrocities in order to make it seem like we should be happy is also a very ficked up approach. As my therapist tells me. My feelings (regardless to what other people think) are valid. So are the collective feelings of an entire group of people who have been treated inhumanely for several centuries. To try to justify f=that by telling us "Look what others have gone through". Maybe you should feel some of their pain and then you won;t feel so shafted. What a crock of bull that is. Under no circumstances has any group of people been put through the hell that African's had to endure here and all over the world because of racism and slavery. So, yes, it is sad to see what other people have gone thorough in the world and I sympathize with them . But that does not lessen my pain or the pain of my people. Some historian estimate that during the slave trade over ten million slaves were thrown overboard due to outbreaks of disease int ehir cramped quarters. Then, you start adding up the millions that werew killed and tortured after we arrived. Hundreds of years of serving a people that hated them without any wages or compensation. Being treated like property that is bought and sold on the whim of the so called owners. If you start adding all this up it comes to hundreds of millions of lives destroyed, families displaced and seperated, lynchings and systematic racism designed to destroy any hopes of a free and just society towards them. When you add all this up, no race in the history of the world has been treated as badly as the Black race. So, don;t give me that bullshit about what other opeople have gone through. People all over the world have gone through shit that wasn't right. Why is it that when Black people speak up about their shit, people want to imply that we are being ungratful and if we knew what others have been through we wouldn't be so angry. Thats more racist bullshit and you know it! Right is right and wrong is wrong whether you Slavic, Jewish, Black Hispanic etc. If you have been wronged you have a right to speak up about it and try to find plausible solutions to eliminating your pain. What is truly interesting to me is the fact that after all this uproar and protests, they are still shooting and killing us for no reason. They are still putting their knees on our necks. It is plainly obvious that they don't give a fuck about our rights. Why should they? The president has made it very clear that he does not give a fuck about our rights. It all starts at the top and works its way down to the bottom. These are the people that we must target and fight against. But people like you? Geesh! I have no idea about how to reach you. You seem to be so far gone towards the other side. No need trying I guess. Been there and done that before. It don;t work. Racism is so deeply ingrained that many of the racists don't even know they are. At least, they don;t believe they are. But give them time to speak long enough and it starts to come out. That when I just tell it like it is. Dude, you're racist! Or dude, if you support racist policies, you're racist. That's the facts that most White people refuse to face.
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7/15/2020 8:17:29 PM
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I do support reparations for AA's, but in a way where people who had nothing to do with slavery in America would not have to carry some sort of guilt when they're blameless of any wrongdoing. For example, my Grandmother didn't arrive on these shores until 1917 but yet I'm and many others like myself are somehow guilty by association. So wouldn't it be a more sensible argument that everyone may have benefited from slavery regardless of their origin? And wouldn't let's say a 1% national sales tax might measure how much each person has benefited by their spending ability? That would raise a lot of revenue over the next 30 years or so and maybe we then can finally put this matter behind us. And direct payments to those affected, not one thin dime to anyone who looks like Hillary or Joe Biden.
But for myself? I harbor no resentment to anyone born during times they could not control and caught up in calamities they did not create. And I don't want one red cent from anyone. I was fortunate to grow up in a country that has given countless people from every walk of life opportunities they could never dream of and for that I'm forever grateful.
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Stoneman
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7/18/2020 6:33:33 AM
So, what you're saying: Lets give'm something but not for another 30 years. I see your point. Got to make it as painless as possible for White people and yes, we certainly don't want them to feel guilty about anything that other White people did. Yeah, I get that. We are trillions of dollars in debt and you actually think that other White people would agree to accrue 30 years of taxes and then distribute it to descendants of slaves? You actually think that would work? I dare say that before that money got distributed to one Black man it would be carved up and reassigned to the latest White privilege. Nice thought but we (AA's) know that you folks cannot be trusted. We remember the 40 acres and a mule that we were promised and never received. Plus we remember the bullshit that was pulled on native Americans. Naw, if you're going to give us something. Give it to us now. Otherwise we just don't trust ya.
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7/19/2020 5:50:17 AM
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Who said anything about waiting for 30 years? I said institute such a tax for the next 30 years or so, and direct payments would mean exactly that. Revenues would go directly to the AA community and no one else. And I wish such a tax had begun 30 years ago, we'd probably all be a lot happier now if it had. It would be a much softer sell and few if any people would object.
Think of it becoming your own private banking system. If people can't get car, home or business loans now, that will change. And used wisely, it could over time undo much of the damage done by the Democratic Party. The AA family could be restored via financial incentives for getting and remaining married with a guaranteed path to higher education for the children.
Done wisely that possibilities would be endless and yes, why should this be painful for anyone? Everyone alive today had nothing to do with the past but yet a debt is still owed. And yes, it would be much easier to come to an agreement that everyone has benefited in one way or another so why not let everyone contribute?
But you are right about this. The last thing the liberal democrats want to see are direct payments to the AA community only, they want to get their hands on that money. And it'll be business as usual if that is allowed to happen.
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Stoneman
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7/19/2020 4:02:10 PM
Oh man, you are so partisan that it wreaks. Yeah, sure, its all the democrats fault. Next, thing you know you'll be proclaiming that Obama and Hillary did it. Pure crap man. But, at least you admit that a debt is owed. Most Republicans won't go that far with it. I'll give you some credit for that. But regardless of the party, they are both run by White people and I am saying that White people are never going to agree to reparations for Black people. That would be formally admitting guilt and they won't ever do that. So this whole thing is a moot point. Black people will never believe it until the money is in the bank. We are well aware of the 40 acres and mule rule that White people have used for hundreds of years. It is very simple. We promise them everything and give them nothing. As evidenced from the following historical accounts:
Charles Elmore, a professor emeritus of humanities at Savannah State University, says Sherman and Stanton listened to Frazier and the others.
"The other Black men chose this eloquent, 67-year-old imposing black man, who was well over 6 feet tall, to speak on their behalf," Elmore says. "And he said essentially we want to be free from domination of white men, we want to be educated, and we want to own land."
Four days later, Sherman signed Field Order 15, setting aside 400,000 acres of confiscated Confederate land for freed slaves. Sherman appointed Brig. Gen. Rufus Saxton to divide up the land, giving each family up to 40 acres.
And it wasn't in the order, Elmore says, but some also received leftover Army mules.
"But it became known as of Jan. 16, 1865, as '40 acres and a mule,' " Elmore said.
Stan Deaton, of the Georgia Historical Society, points out that after Lincoln's assassination, President Andrew Johnson reversed Sherman's order, giving the land back to its former Confederate owners.
"Once the passion of war was over, the idea of that kind of social experiment lost favor with a lot of people very quickly," he says.
Vaughnette Goode-Walker, a writer who leads tours focused on Savannah's black past, calls it one of the biggest "gotchas" in American history.
" 'Here, take this land — but we can't really give it to you because it doesn't belong to us; it belongs to the Confederates when they come back home.' How confusing is that?"
The reversal left many African-Americans with few options but to become sharecroppers, often working for former slaveholders. But Elmore says the meeting in Savannah 150 years ago accomplished one important thing.
"It set in motion the dialogue between the white power structure and black men in Savannah, Ga.," he says. " 'What do y'all want?' And they got some of it, however temporary and fleetingly. They got it. That is significant."
So, whose to say that once the current passion for civil rights has waned that whatever money set aside for reparations won't be redistributed into the economic system and used for other things that a current administration may deem important. I mean, if they couldn't get anything done back then, why should they be able to do it now? Not happening as you know Republicans will vote anything related to the non-white population down. I submit that the current president and administration is arguably ten times more racist than they were back in the 1800's. This administration refuses to even admit that there is anything owed to African Americans.
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Psyche's Muse
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11/18/2020 5:02:43 AM
"BLACKS OWNED SLAVES"!!! There were 100's of "them"(Black "Owners" Of "slaves"). And "whenever" a man "owned property" he had THE RIGHT TO VOTE(ballot box/jury/etc.)! He also had "The Right" to "run for/hold public office". Wasn't "THIS" some "Equality For Blacks" in this country?!!! And "Where" was this going on("That Place" Where Blacks Were Being Given That "Benefit Of A Doubt")? IN THE CONFEDERATE STATES!!!
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Stoneman
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11/19/2020 2:40:38 AM
Oh yeah, the confeds. Those wonderful people who gave us the Jim Crow system. Sure there were Blacks that owned slaves. However that did not elevate them to the economic levels of Whites due to the fact that Blacks were still considered inferior and treated less than no matter how much money and property they had. They were still restricted from traveling without permission papers from White people. They participated in the economic system that was prevalent. That system was well entrenched in the process of free labor (slavery). Not saying that it was right just saying that it was what it was. Quite often the captives take on the traits of the captors. Nothing unusual about that. Nor does the fact that there were a few Africans who owned slaves absolve White people of their guilt from the practice of slavery. interesting that you would use that argument though as it is a known argument used by White Supremacists in order dispel the notion that their cause is evil.
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Psyche's Muse
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11/26/2020 11:25:59 PM
"Blacks" agreed with and participated in slavery "In Africa" WAY BEFORE, DURING, and even AFTER the Civil War. The only difference in "their version"(African) was that it was NEVER seen as being "racially" motivated... although it WAS rather "clannish"(tribal/family/class/etc.). Slavery was and is NOT "The White Man's Invention". The Irish were thought to be "less valuable" than black slaves and so THEY were the ones used to dig/create the boundaries around New Orleans and create other levee structures along the Mississippi River. This was "extremely dangerous work" and using Irish "Indentured Servants" who would not be "missed" as much(financially) if they died seemed like the right/appropriate thing to do at that time. This too is "racist" logic/thinking. It's just not so much "Black" VS. "White". Discrimination is part of life. Denigration is a feeling that all of us can/may/shall participate in.
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The CODE
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11/28/2020 8:04:01 PM
Thanks for bringing up the 'Irish' situation Psyche's! It has long been
ignored amongst all the other noise surrounding the 'slavery' position!
The Irish situation started 400 years before the poor souls of Africa had
to face their slavery ordeal!
I believe that 'slavery' is not "The White Man's Invention" it was probably
spawned when Ug & Co were roaming about from caves, and some bright
spark realised that he could let other idiots risk lives and go out hunting to
bring home food, then they could be strongarmed into handing it over
When Money, Corruption & Greed are tolerated as part of our current
society make up, it will always be a question of the 'HAVES' and the
'HAVE NOTS'
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Stoneman
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12/18/2020 3:10:38 AM
What difference does it make who invented slavery? The fact that it was evil is all that needs to be achnowledged and all who participated (regardless to their race) are in fact compicit. But even more important than that is the fact that hundreds of years of free labor thoroughly enriched White people at the expense of the blood, sweat, tears and bondage of Africans This entire nation benefited from that economic system and many of the oldest companies in America can trace their wealth roots to the system of slavery.
There is a constant effort in this nation by White people of all sorts to erase the stain of slavery by discounting it and making it seem like it wasn't so bad. I call it "White washing". As far as I am concerned they can all eat shit and die the way my ancestors were put to death. Then, let me hear them say it ain't so bad. These are the same people who act so surprised when the riots, fires and looting begin. White America is so out of touch with what happens here that even actual proof through video is not enough to sway them. There are people who still believe that George Floyd deserved to be killed. Even after seeing the cop with his knee on his neck for all that time. Even with that they still side against the protesters. There is absolutely no hope of reaching those people. they believe he deserved to die because he was Black. They will always be against reparations and anything else that might help Black people in any way. Racism is the true pandemic that Black and Brown people have had to face all of these years. We have lost millions to the mental disease called hatred.
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Psyche's Muse
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1/4/2021 7:37:32 AM
So Sorry to "differ" with you Stoneman on this "slavery" issue. I understand where you are coming from and why, but do not think you are "getting" my perspective. "Slavery" is "justification" "FOR" a "King"! And The "King" IS OUR "SERVANT"! We cannot ever have a "Kingdom" WITHOUT "Servantry"("Slavery" is "derogatory" term) being "permitted/allowed"! The most powerful people in this world FEAR "THAT"!!! They have the most to gain from misconstruing terms like unto "slavery" and such. We NEED a King! ONE PERSON WE "CAN" TRUST! Send "Hymn" into those darkened chambers where the powerful thrive! "THIS" is "what" Jesus did and what "He stood for"!
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Psyche's Muse
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1/4/2021 7:56:46 AM
So Sorry to "differ" with you Stoneman on this "slavery" issue. I understand where you are coming from and why, but do not think you are "getting" my perspective. "Slavery" is "justification" "FOR" a "King"! And The "King" IS OUR "SERVANT"! We cannot ever have a "Kingdom" WITHOUT "Servantry"("Slavery" is "derogatory" term) being "permitted/allowed"! The most powerful people in this world FEAR "THAT"!!! They have the most to gain from misconstruing terms like unto "slavery" and such. We NEED a King! ONE PERSON WE "CAN" TRUST! Send "Hymn" into those darkened chambers where the powerful thrive! "THIS" is "what" Jesus did and what He Stood "FOR"!
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