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Tom O'Brien
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5/15/2021 2:25:36 AM
How Do You Think Primitive Music Started?
The oldest known instruments are some flutes, found in Germany, made of vulture bone and mammoth ivory and being 40,000 years old. Whoever first thought of the idea was some kind of primitive genius. I would never have thought of it. First, you have to kill a vulture and a mammoth, which present problems of their own. But, then, someone must have heard the wind whistle and perhaps he or she learned how to whistle? But then, to take it further, to invent a device whose pitch you could vary by letting the breath out at certain holes is almost miraculous.
But, I think rhythm happened first - someone beat a stick against a hollow log, liked the sound, and repeated it. Maybe he or she chanted as they played, maybe varying pitch from their normal speaking tone. Once, my friend Greg and I played rocks and sticks and branches in a cave. We just started a steady rhythm without even discussing it, and then began to syncopate. We played for about 20 minutes - it was a very pure musical moment.
Maybe music was a part of courtship rituals, as it still can be today.
What are your ideas?
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Chandra Moon
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5/15/2021 4:10:17 AM
Yes I think drums and chant/voice and dancing with rhythm - it's just so innate in humans!
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Richard Scotti
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5/15/2021 3:10:01 PM
---- Updated 5/15/2021 3:23:39 PM
As David Bowie once sang: "Oh man. look at those cavemen go!"
I can imagine a group of cave people sitting around a fire one night and trying to communicate by making making random vocal sounds and one thing leads to another. Suddenly there is choral singing! I think the first instruments besides the human voice had to be flutes and drums. It must have been a blast!
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Bryon Tosoff
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5/15/2021 4:54:26 PM
Sometimes I think we underestimate how advanced previous incarnations of "humans" were, or variations of specious that predated us. But to the question Tom, that is quite something of the instrument found from that age. I like Chandra's answer of percussion or drums for our particular species.
I love looking back in time and think there were far more advanced species of humankind or whatever that may looked like us. Or were different. Always astounds me of the Megalithic structures and findings by archeologists from various countries from Peru to Egypt or Asia, my thinking is that there has been far more advanced species than us who lived further back then we really understand. Only to be decimated perhaps by some cosmic destruction or another destruction disaster that wiped them out
Anyways, wonderful things man has developed in many ways in various forms
good question Tom
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Bob Elliott
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5/19/2021 9:54:25 AM
It was when they dropped the ‘roll’ from rock and roll.
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Bryon Tosoff
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5/19/2021 12:16:06 PM
Haha Bob. Best one liner ever. Good one lol
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Richard Scotti
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5/19/2021 2:45:11 PM
It all started with the Rolling Stones!
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Bob Elliott
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5/19/2021 2:49:09 PM
Nah, those guys keep plenty of roll
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Bryon Tosoff
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5/20/2021 1:36:28 PM
Another Gem from Bob, sharp and smart. :)
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Stoneman
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5/21/2021 12:58:16 AM
Some guy was walking his Sabertooth down the ravene when he saw a cave girl he had been admiring for a long time. He grabbed two bones and started beating on a rock to get her attention. She came over and started digging his beat. Soon, other women from the caves saw her dancing and joined in. Thus was the beginning of Disco. finally some of the other cavemen saw what was happening and joined in with the dancing and beat making. Thus was born the dance club, collaborators and the cave boy bands. Everything in this world revolves around men trying to please women. Another futile excerise in blind faith! Har.........
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Bryon Tosoff
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5/22/2021 1:39:50 PM
lol. right Stoneman, indeed !! haha
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