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Bobby D.
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1/21/2016 2:06:03 PM
Woody Guthrie wrote lyrics about Trump's dad being a racist
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/21/1472974/-It-turns-out-Donald-Trump-s-father-was-the-racist-landlord-Woody-Guthrie-hated?detail=facebook
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Larree
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1/21/2016 3:50:13 PM
That has been all over the web today. I am still all in for Trump.
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/21/2016 3:59:53 PM
it is stupid. all this garbage about Trump. Doing him a big favor, People post it all over their FB pages, all kinds of insane junk, they are actually doing Trump a favor, you know why? because he is getting the benefit of free advertising. free commercial time. media , social media, the average person below average, goes posts stuff, all these memes and pictures and they make them selves look like idiots fools, i go on their pages and explain, good job, keep doing what you are doing, you are giving Trump exactly what he wants, free ads, and he plays the media, news radio TV like a Fiddle. he knows what he is doing. so if I was in America the US, i think quite frankly I would vote for him what other choices are there?
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LyinDan
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1/21/2016 4:11:25 PM
---- Updated 1/21/2016 4:12:47 PM
Bernie Sanders. He's not a cartoon character.
Yeah, I know, "Socialist"
Well, so am I. Not a National Socialist, like Trump, though.
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Larree
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1/21/2016 4:17:45 PM
---- Updated 1/21/2016 4:21:21 PM
Tell ya what, LyinDan. I have a hell of a lot more respect for Bernie Sanders than I do for Hillary. But I could never vote for him.
The reason I am all in for Trump is because I see him as the ONLY candidate who has a real chance of getting the dems and reps to talk to each other as problem solvers. Not ideologues. Some people say we are doomed if Trump gets elected. Well I think we are doomed if anyone other than Trump gets elected. If we get another ideologue, left or right, we are done. Stick a fork in us.
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LyinDan
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1/21/2016 4:19:25 PM
Specific reasons? Other than "Damn Socialist"
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Larree
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1/21/2016 4:23:23 PM
I don't need another reason. I do not believe in socialism. I am a libertarian. I want to shrink the federal government. I don't want government to be my big brother.
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LyinDan
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1/21/2016 5:28:02 PM
Have you ever listened to a Bernie speech?
Also, you do know "libertarianism" has been discredited since we all realized Ayn Rand was a selfish idiot, don't you?
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Larree
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1/21/2016 5:36:19 PM
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I have listened to Bernie. I even like his Simon & Garfunkel ad. But do you know what he sounds like to me? He sounds like the old guy yelling at the kids to get off his lawn. He sounds like he is about to turn the sprinklers on because he is pissed at the kids for throwing the football near his flower bed.
Oh. And I am proud to call myself a libertarian.
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Shoe City Sound
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1/21/2016 6:43:13 PM
But lots of Bernie's supporters are young. Plus forget about domestic issues, if Trump gets elected, what does that do for our credibility with other countries. The Brits have already grossed out over him. And I can't say I'd trust him with our military. He's so hot headed and talks before he thinks just for a sound bite. I really don't think he's cool enough to be in charge of nukes.
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Larree
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1/21/2016 6:57:01 PM
People said the same thing about Reagan. And frankly, I don't vote to please other countries, anyway.
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1/22/2016 4:15:14 AM
Okay, I'm gonna wade into the water and weigh in on this one.
As for the 'we're doomed if Trump gets in', I fed that fire once upon a time.
Then on the advice of a friend, I began reading Donald Trump's book,
"The Art Of The Deal".
This completely turned my head around about who and what he really is.
The guy's a problem solver, a literal Captain of Industry.
While the other candidates are all talk, this guy is about doing the job.
I don't think we're doomed anymore, okay?
I think Donald Trump is our best shot at getting America's Economy back
on track. Call me crazy if you want, many do, then I make funny faces at them.
Donald's The Guy.
He's tough enough to stand up to all the shit that's gotta be stood up against.
That's who my weight's behind.
Ya'll do as you want.
I'm with The Don.
~L, out
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Shoe City Sound
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1/22/2016 5:03:33 AM
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That surprises me ALJ since I can't imagine that John Lennon - or any of the Beatles - would support Donald Trump. He doesn't talk like the "give peace a chance" type of guy. He says some pretty hateful things about people.
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1/22/2016 6:52:30 AM
I speak for myself, Shoe City.
John and George are largely staying out of politics at this point,
since they're no longer living in the physical world and can't be bothered
about it very much. They like to make records, and they're as free
to express their viewpoints there as I am, and they do...
But they don't own me, nor I them. They're my friends,
they're non physical, so they're not as attached to this world as you or I.
If it makes you feel any better, I believe they did do a record,
I'm not sure if it's still out now
"Praying to the God of Trump"....
Ultimately this body, and this life, belongs to me.
So that's the ultimate rank here.
I'm not their lackey. I'm a member of the band,
and I'm the only one of the band, still currently living on Planet Earth.
Now...
Do you have anything in a size 10 1/2 E?
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1/22/2016 6:53:55 AM
Actually, John just said
"Paul might support Trump, he's the group's Republican usually.
Sometimes Lesley too, Lesley oscillates, she/he will do that you know."
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Shoe City Sound
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1/22/2016 9:30:55 AM
Actually, after I typed that I did have the thought that Paul might be conservative politically haha. A record "Praying to the God of Trump"?! haha - you kill me (in a good way)
You don't have to explain channeling other spirits and their music to me. I have a life time of experience with it. I bring up John's politics because I always felt they were part of his spirit and his music. But everyone handles channeled stuff differently of course. And I'd have to say I admire your ability to separate things out so well. I have trouble sometimes figuring out where they end and where I begin.
Nope, sorry Dear, you can't get any shoes here - maybe a song about shoes sometime :)
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 9:37:05 AM
Channeling, well not a believer in dead people spirits getting channeled cause their physical bodies are dead and gone and their spirit is locked way until later on , but i do believe in Gods spirit the envelopes this orb we are on , and that is what we tap into , but as for other musicians, nope, sorry dont work that way, although one has their music embedded withing them due to the listening element this challenging other dead people stuff. balderdash i say
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 9:41:58 AM
or you could channel evil spirits as well. Lucifer, ( the Devil) for those who are into believing that it exists Lucifer was the minister of music. until he messed everything up and turned to the dark side (Ezekiel 28:13-14 " You were in Eden, the Garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were anointed cherub who covers; I established you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
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LyinDan
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1/22/2016 10:13:21 AM
Politics and Religion in the same thread, wooieeee, here we go.
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 10:14:11 AM
Stirring it up boys and girls. I expect some fire on this one lol. cant resist
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1/22/2016 10:21:55 AM
what, we expecting ol' Lesley to throw flame on this?
Yawn.
People believe what they wanna.
John had a friend since they were both 5.
Pete. Pete came here, and after watching us all make
a record we'd all written in his hotel room that morning,
Pete said to John:
"You bastard.
You knew.
You knew didn't you.
You knew that if I saw you work, I'd know it's you."
John laughed and said,
"I've only been trying to tell you that for two fuckin' years,Shotton".
Pete just said "fuccccck" and leaned back on the couch.
You don't have to believe, it's okay.
Yes a great many of souls are in stasis while God's building things,
we are in agreement there.
Some however, are 'staff'.
Anyway, that's all I have to say about that. And all I will say.
You're completely free to believe whatever you like,
and I'm not about to try and talk you out of it.
I was just explaining, exactly why, I don't see it that way.
Peace.
~L
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 10:23:50 AM
true, to each their own. everybody has a basis on what they believe. cheers
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 10:28:20 AM
But I am surprised Lesley on your sudden turn from peace loving to trump loving. have you been turned to the dark side. last week you were berating and saying Trump was going to blow up the whole world, did that little book convert you, amazing what someone can do to another with words....are you a believer and a Trump lover or what
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Shoe City Sound
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1/22/2016 10:30:07 AM
And just to be clear about my views .... I have never channeled any specific personalities or people that I have heard of from the past or anything - more like information from outside myself that I consider myself lucky to be open to that is completely aligned with love and beauty - that much definition I do have.
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Larree
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1/22/2016 10:32:25 AM
The only way we can "give peace a chance" with ISIS and all the other islamonazis who want to destroy America is to blow them off the fucking map. Sorry John.
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1/22/2016 10:32:30 AM
I believe that Paul probably is a Republican Conservative or something,
whether or not he'll admit it is another story. And I begin to suspect Yoko's from another planet because she just doesn't age. What the hell is up with that? ~John
I believe that we're not at all talking about Trump or his dad,
and while noting the irony till it's an ironing board of it,
that Woody supposedly wrote that about Trump's dad,
and Lesley has called Larree the "Woody Guthrie of our time",
I believe I'm a bit confused now. But I heard the song at the same time she/he
did, the Cooley you're a Thug one, and I see what Lesley means,
it's a gutsy basic in your face song, like Guthrie would do.
I believe that Lesley's made her/his mind up pretty much,
so don't look for the 'Praying to the God of Trump' one,
'cause it's been taken off the page. Conflict of interest.
It's her party, you know. I'm not crying about it.
What she said is true, we're bloody beyond this world now,
sort out your own politics, I'm just glad to make records,
we like making records, we still do, both John and I do.
Lesley's surprised I'm talkin' this much, I'm usually a bit quiet. ~George
I believe Ringo is still Ringo, Thank God. ~John
I believe I need change, you got two tens for a five, John? ~George
I believe fuck off, George. ~John
I believe you're a cheapskate, Lennon. ~George.
OH OKAY THAT IS ENOUGH, Boys. ~Lesley
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1/22/2016 10:33:12 AM
Ah MEAT! said John.
Okay you listening Larree?
This is John speaking with his voice...
pay attention now....
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1/22/2016 10:35:33 AM
ISIS is something we didn't have much of going on, that I knew of,
back in the day when I wrote fuckin' Give Peace A Chance.
ISIS is a whole 'nother ball of fuckall isn't it.
No, Brother. ISIS you don't flash a peace sign at.
You flash something else,
probably with a nuclear kick and a large bloody blast zone.
There, surprised? Thought I was gonna go all "let's try and understand them"
on you did you?
Guess what. They're scum.
And one of 'em tried to use my fuckin' name?
Jihad this, you goddamn bloody arsehole.
No, you can't make peace with them, and you know it,
they're out for absolute fuckall, so give it to 'em and have done with it.
~John
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1/22/2016 10:36:12 AM
Don't look now Larree,
but I think John just pretty much exactly agreed with you. ~Lesley
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Larree
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1/22/2016 11:00:17 AM
Yes indeed, you did!
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 11:07:19 AM
So, did I not or did I see an answer Lesley that you are with Trump or have changed your mind about him, (regardless whether this thread is about him or not, the name Trump still was brought up ) , since you have had a change of mind, or i guess you are ignoring my request. which is fine too. I have a meeting with one of my Prodigies later so will return when I can to see what you say, oh, i see you have not given up your song production, as creative as ever. good to see. cheers
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1/22/2016 5:02:51 PM
I'm sorry Bryon, I seem to have missed something?
What is your request exactly?
In answer to your question,
I have said "I am with The Don",
as in, I got his back. As in, I support him,
and the candidates I support do have a funny habit of winning.
Is there ambiguity in the statement I've made that eludes me?
And sorry again, I missed what the request was,
but please restate it, as I may have experienced a blond moment.
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1/22/2016 5:11:17 PM
I am aligned with Love and Beauty. I work for God Almighty.
Doesn't get more Beautiful than that.
I think Trump will bring Peace, though I realize some don't think so.
Bryon, was it a more detailed explanation of why I switched
to supporting Don?
I can do that.
Larree recommended to me, and it was also the simple yet compelling
way that he said it, that I needed to read The Art Of The Deal.
That, book, is what gave me insight into the incredible person
that Donald is. You sometimes might not know it now from
how he carries on, but he is remarkable,
and he is the Next President of the United States,
it's as necessary, and as inevitable as Barack Obama was in 2008.
I did not 'turn to the dark side'.
I work for God. God is Love. God is Light.
Okay, for those of us who do work for God,
we know Two Things.
And God is making me suddenly forget them,
that's very funny Lord, please stop that.
Free Will, is a Gift to the Sheep.
Shepherd have far less luxury there.
I am compelled by the Almighty,
and have in fact been compelled to come around
and recognize that Donald Is Whom I Need To Support Now.
Also, God can be very sneaky going about his God Business.
Seldom Does God Explain Himself.
Often even seasoned staff,
can expect a memo concerning what to do at noon,
and a neat 11:59.
It's 11:59 and I wanna stay alive.
Blondie did that one.
I'm a blondie with a beard.
I'm sorry Bryon, I'm just a bit silly, and it shows sometimes....
what was it you wanted exactly? A request? Melancholy Baby?
What?
I'm all friggin' curious as fuck now.
~L
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 5:16:02 PM
ah, the Melancholy Baby would do just fine Lesley, I was just interested why you all of a sudden switched your allegiance to Trump. I like him as well, but I am a Canuckehead and cant vote for him but would, although my grand dad was American so I am part americano on my moms side, which really doesnt mean anything now cause I live in Kanada , I thought you abhor him. or did. but good you like him even though I didnt think you did, and now you do, or somewhat. Cheers
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1/22/2016 5:17:22 PM
By the way, I didn't stop being peace loving.
Nor did the men I channel. Mr Lennon and Mr Harrison.
But we're also old, hence experienced by now, and we're not idiots.
Okay I'm a bit of one, but only a bit, otherwise I'm pretty smart and pretty sharp.
Peace can only exist, when everybody wants it.
ISIS is a qualifier as 'not in the market for your stinking peace, fuck you!'
only in their case, they're more 'fuck all' than a mere 'fuck you'.
They are nasty little dirty doodyheads, and need to be dealt with.
Corruption in Washington, Needs To Be Dealt With
BY SOMEONE WITH THE Strength.
I now firmly believe in my heart and soul and mind
that Donald has that strength.
And Larree, you fuckin' crack me up, Man.
"GET OFFA MY LAWN!"
What a howler. Jesus Esmerelda
pretty apropos too....
you really gotta know how to DEAL with The Wheely Dealies...
Don knows how to.
I have his back.
Questions then?
Yes we believe in Peace.
We'd like to see it happen.
A person of lesser strength, in the face of all the adversity
we face now, will not no matter how much they deliver promises to,
be able to deliver the goods, of providing peace, and stability.
Hard choices do need to be made, by someone who is equipped to make them.
Yes?
Questions?
~L
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1/22/2016 5:20:23 PM
Oh. Well perhaps I should learn how Melancholy Baby goes. I'm not sure.
Besides probably being one.
No, it's like anybody else Bryon,
and Heavens, canook or not, I never said you don't have a right to your opinion.
And if I implied that, I apologize.
No, it's like a lot of people out here,
they don't realize, there is so much more to this guy,
than currently he's throwing at the camera and microphone....
I'd recommend everybody read The Art Of The Deal
just as Larree recommended it to me.
I came around is all.
realized I'd sold him short. He is Amazing. Don yeah.
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1/22/2016 5:20:53 PM
though okay, press me to admit it, Larree's pretty awesome himself.
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1/22/2016 5:26:14 PM
OH Darn. In for a penny in for a pound.
Part of the reality of being, American Lesley Jane,
is that I have reported to Presidents.
As in The President of the United States,
since 2001, September. 9-11 basically made me.
Stan Lee could not have written a better origin story.
So, yes, I now advice the present one,
as a citizen with a brain, and ability to articulate what I see,
and the next one, that means Don.
And here's irony for you,
yes I write to Don a lot.
More times than I can count in just the past two days.
I've actually mentioned Larree to him, I'm sure he appreciates his support,
I damn well know he appreciates mine, 'cause I'm a mover and a shaker
in this realm of politics by now, just out of how long I've been in the picture.
I even mentioned the irony,
of that I've named Larree as the Woody Guthrie of our time,
and mentioned----yes folks, the plot thickens like gravy---
this very thread, to Don....
about how Woody Guthrie (the first one) is now said to
have written about Don's Dad, that Woody called him
a 'racist landlord' presumably in some song he did...
and that Larree, whom I name the Woody Guthrie of our time,
supports Don...
which really is, as George pointed out,
'an ironing board of irony'.
Which, let's face it,
you on the one hand kinda of don't know what the fuck that means,
and on the other hand,
it does convey volume some how, does it not?
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/22/2016 5:27:04 PM
everybody deserves a chance. even Hillary and Bernie. heads or tails. tails, who wins
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