NPR Interview with me up on their site. Audio to come Sunday at 9:00am according to site. by Slimdog Productions on The Pipeline at IndieMusicPeople

NPR Interview with me up on their site. Audio to come Sunday at 9:00am according to site.
Looks like NPR posted the interview I did today. It says on the site that the audio will be up tomorrow. It looks like they cut out ALOT of what I said. No mention in print on finding uplaya on IACmusic.com. Usually, what NPR prints on their interviews is usually what's on the audio as well. That would suck ASS...

NPR Interview about Uplaya.com

I'm hoping people will look us up from the NPR article/MTV & Uplaya feature and head to IAC. Here's to new listeners!!!

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the perfect banana

10/10/2009 11:56:31 PM

Do you work for Uplaya? If so you ought to be embarrassed. That's one of the most retarded things I've ever seen on the internet.

It's anti-artist, anti-creativity. Pathetic, dude, you should know better.

You submit your song to a computer and get results that start with "The underlying patterns of this song are similar to.."

Underlying patterns? Similar to is something we should aspire for???

Do you make your music to fit a mold like this, or does it have some individuality to it? Seriously, you're looking really dumb here backing that joke gimmick site.

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 12:30:05 AM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 12:47:42 AM

Of course you are gonna have people that say that, but remember this banana; I make music because I like to make music. I created, helped`create or help promote artists music I work with on my IAC page WAY BEFORE uplaya came along. Gotten accolades WAY BEFORE uplaya came along. Uplaya didn't or doesn't have to tell me I make great music. "Dear Momz": knew that was a hit even before uplaya said it was...Uplaya is just a tool to use if you want to use it. They are not trying to be the "end all be all" for what music you decide to put up or promote. There will be some that use it and some that don't. I have songs I LIKE that uplaya said are "not hits". I'll still push them the same as the "hits". Have you checked out my music here banana? (Obviously not...) Have you looked at my page and see what I have accomplished here at IAC, thanks to great people here who have individuality that voted for our music to recieve such accolades here? (Obviously not...) I believe Block Scholars has some of the most diverse Hip Hop around. Or did you just assume (as`always) and just let your 100 watt mouth overpower your 1 amp behind?

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 12:42:10 AM

You've got a lot of nerve dissing my intelligence when you're pushing a pile of crap like that. It's a stupid tool and if you don't know it's stupid, you're real stupid.

You also didn't answer what your stake in Uplaya is. Obviously you work for them, right? Time to be truthful in advertising.

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 12:55:50 AM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 1:10:32 AM

Go to my site banana. Ask those here on IAC about me. Because of our good scores on our songs, we were asked by uplaya and Block Scholars will be signing a worldwide digital distribution deal with uplaya/The Orchard soon, which is the largest independent music distributor in the world. If you get enough good scores where they'll take notice, you might get a deal. Check my page fool, it's all there for people to see. You got alot of nerve to say you have intellegence when you haven't gone by my page here on IAC to see what I do or have done. The proof is there homie...You may be able to sit there one day and laugh at us if all this falls through, but let's just say uplaya becomes somewhat of a hit through the independent channels and independent, no-name artists like us finally get heard around the world where we can compete with the big name corporations and some of the garbage they put out, finally leveling the playing field some...Who gets the last laugh then banana?

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 1:06:48 AM

What happened to your deal with Cashbox?

So you are claiming you got signed based on scores you got from a computer, and you're bragging about this?

You are gullible to the millionth degree. Wake up, clowny.

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 1:17:47 AM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 1:23:23 AM

Let's just say Cashbox didn't do what they said they were gonna do...That's another story for another time. Our contract was up at the end of September. We were approached by the VP of Artist Development at Warner Brothers (Blink 182's former manager) about sending demos to major labels and booking agencies. I have his protected list of A&Rs, Booking Agencies and are guaranteed a response within 72 hrs. of sending a demo by using his name as a reference , so it's just not a computer telling us about our music homie. You can get a car or a house by putting your SSN through a computer that tells you if your credit score is good enough... Quit assuming. You're looking REALLY dumb right now...If you don't know the WHOLE story homie, ask or stay out of it.

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 1:24:25 AM

Did you spend any money on that Cashbox offer?

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 1:26:29 AM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 1:27:17 AM

Yeah, unfortunately we did. When the time comes...

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 12:10:42 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 12:34:27 PM

Way to go Slimdog! Your name is on that website. Do you know how many artists that will never get that opportunity? Says you were more than willing to go re-mix your song and not stuck on yourself, to co-operate with what needed to be done. Say's you are not going to give up. Shows cooperation and effort on your behalf. They are most definately interested in what you are doing.

Do you know how many will get a score that they don't agree with and walk away throwing their hands up because they scored lower than they thought they would? Do you know how many will scowl at your success and all your steps towards moving forward. They try to take shots at you just because they're jealous. Some can't stay fresh and desirable any longer than 5 days.

Websites try to avoid sending traffic off their site in general. Sadly it's a rock and hard place to be in.

Onward and Upward Slimdog!

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 1:56:17 PM

Anybody who would trust in a computer gimmick for an opinion of their music let alone try to change your music based on that evaluation is desperate beyond belief. It's a scam, fools.

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 2:23:27 PM

Sorry, I can't find anything on the internet exposing them as a scam. Please post a link if you find anything. Tell me what you know of them.

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Jeff Allen Myers

10/11/2009 2:47:48 PM

The site got him huge exposure, NPR is national! Whether you think it is a gimmick or not Banana, Slimdog has the high ground here as he has benefited, I don't understand why you are attacking him. You are just coming of as a vindictive SOB. He has always given back to IAC by mentioning the site. UPLAYA is no compettition to IAC, A totally different business plan without music hosting or stations.

I am for whatever helps Indie Artists, novelty or not.

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 4:04:52 PM

I looked at his link and I see no evidence of this great exposure. One must remember that Slimdog made the same kind of claim about Cashbox and now it turns out he paid them for his contract and got taken to the cleaners.

Ash Ferry, use your common sense, do you really think a machine can rate your music? Are you stupid?

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Aimee Terrin

10/11/2009 4:42:20 PM

Slim,

Post the links and maybe a banner we can post in our other sites to help promote the interview @ NPR and anything else you can think of...Trust me, nobody knows more than me, that no "one thing you do" can be attributed to our own personal success stories, but if we add up all those little things*...well you know how the rest of that song goes .

xoxo

A.T.

*little things, mean alot...lol

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 4:56:57 PM

Thanks Ash, Jeff & Aimee,
I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner, but I had to work and I just got time here at Dallas Fort Worth Airport to write a quick thank you and respond to banana's question. Cashbox is associated here at IAC. They put us indie artists up on their website for others to see. For that, I thank Bruce Elrod & Co. There may be a time we tell our story, but for now, Block Scholars will just keep on keepin' on...I've moved on.
Banana, coming on this site and calling me a clown, stupid and whatnot is only benefiting you, I guess. I've been called ALOT worse in my lifetime and I am still here homie. You have to have a thick skin in this industry, because us artists will run into a knucklehead like you every once in awhile. I'm here, I'm a man and I can take any criticisms on my work or what I am doing. I'm out here for all to hear my opinions good or bad and I am here to hear yours. Like me or hate me at least I don't have to hide behind a banana...Ya' feel me???

Slim

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 5:05:49 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 6:33:30 PM

Banana...Did you not click the link at the top of my blog and read the interview at NPR? My name is David Bell and I am one half of the group, Block Scholars or did you not take the time to find out WHO I am on here before spewing your vomit all over IAC making accusations. You sure are telling alot about yourself through this blog nana...I would respect you more if you would show your face instead of hiding behind some fruit:

New Music Software Predicts The Hits: Audio for this story from Morning Edition will be available at approx. 9:00 a.m. ET

by Laura Sydell

Enlarge Frank Micelotta/Getty ImagesThe Black Eyed Peas' single "I Gotta Feeling" received a hit score of 8.9 out 10 with Music Intelligence Solutions' new software Hit Song Science.

Frank Micelotta/Getty ImagesThe Black Eyed Peas' single "I Gotta Feeling" received a hit score of 8.9 out 10 with Music Intelligence Solutions' new software Hit Song Science.
October 12, 2009 - Many of us like to believe that there's a little magic behind the making of a hit single. Take a song like "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. That's a good song, judging by sales: It's on top of the Billboard pop chart. David Meredith, CEO of Music Intelligence Solutions, says there's no magic in that; it's math. His software, called Hit Song Science, gave the song a hit score of 8.9 out 10.

"[It's] a series of algorithms that we use to look at what's the potential of a song to be sticky with a listener," Meredith says. "To have those patterns in the music that would correspond with what human brain waves would find pleasing."

Meredith says his software found that hits have certain common patterns of rhythm, harmony, chord progression, length and lyrics. A study conducted by the Harvard Business School found that the software was accurate 8 out of 10 times.

This summer, Music Intelligence launched a Web site for songwriters called Uplaya. David Bell, of the hip-hop duo the Block Scholars, paid $90 to use it.

"To me, it's an unbiased validation of your music," Bell says. "It's not your family turning around and saying, 'Oh, you got a great song.' "

The computer told Bell he had a 7.1 — good, but not great. So he went back to the studio and remixed. He got his score up to 7.6 — good for a platinum rating. He could hold his head up.

"We can use Uplaya as a tool to figure out what song we want to put in a demo to send to these labels and stuff," Bell says.

Against The Machine

"From an artist's standpoint, a songwriter's standpoint, it's horrifying to me," says independent singer-songwriter Kim Tuvim. Tuvim says that she can't stand the star-making machine behind popular songs, and that she hates the idea of artists trying to fit songs into algorithms.

"You'll find a decreasing amount of any kind of surprises in music," Tuvim says. "This just becomes a tool to make that narrowing of the field more accessible."

Tuvim says her songs come from a mysterious place in her unconscious. She might not love the computer, but the computer loves her song "Flood." It got a 7.3 — that's platinum.

Breaking The Mold

It doesn't surprise New Yorker music critic Sasha Frere-Jones that a computer can predict hits, but he says it can't predict all the hits. Sometimes, songs come along that don't fit the mold.

"I think of a song like 'Da Da Da' by Trio, which people love," Jones says. "They just love that song. And I can't imagine that at the time, in '80-'81, that the software would have given that a very high rating. It was sonically very small. It sounded like a kids' song. They might have told the band, 'No. No. No. No. No. Beef it up.' "

The software still doesn't think it's a hit: "Da Da Da" got a 6. Jones worries that, if Hit Song Science plays too big a role in the music industry, a lot of good songs will never see the light of day.

Music Intelligence Solutions CEO Meredith calls his software a democratizing force in music — sort of a computerized American Idol. If an unknown, unconnected artist gets a high score, it could get a leg up. Then, his company could help promote the artist with record labels.

"We'll shine a spotlight on you," Meredith says. "You'll get recognized, and we'll get the word out, and that's probably a good way for the industry to work relative to it being, 'Who do you know?' It's more about what kind of talent level that you have."

Meredith also notes that his software isn't writing the songs. Human beings do that — at least for now.

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 5:21:48 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 6:42:56 PM

Ash, what uplaya says is that if your score is not good, try either mastering, remixing or do a higher quality mp3. Sometimes that will raise the score. The song NPR is taliking about is, "This Is For My People: The Rhythm Of A Scholar". It received a 7.1 score, which is a "Gold Auddy" award. I could of just left it at that, but I wanted to test uplaya and see if my score would change, also we knew the song needed mastering anyway because we want to use it on a album in the future. After mastering, the song got a 7.6, which is a "Platinum Auddy". Banana, my music was created before I even heard of uplaya and got the awards. I was pushing our music before uplaya came along. Uplaya may be that one step to help me and other indie artists to get noticed here. Why not give it a shot? Uplaya got me the NPR interview. Can't argue againstb that. The music has been here awhile on IAC for you to listen to. Feel free 'nana... No complaints from you until now...Now tell us, what's REALLY the problem you have with me?

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 6:50:19 PM

OMG, I didn't see that. You paid 90 dollars to use it??? They aren't publicizing your band, they're using you as a patsy.

You know I warned you about Cashbox. You should've listened. This is even lamer.

I feel sorry for you, pal.

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 7:06:33 PM

Que sera, sera...

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 9:02:18 PM

Ash Ferry, use your common sense, do you really think a machine can rate your music? Are you stupid?

I say shut your stupid mouth and stay out of Slimdogs business. He can spend his hard earned money on anything he wants to. Are you out there on the net accusing iac of being scammers too?

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 9:17:16 PM

When he posts something on a public site, it's everybody's business. Artists get taken in by scams all the time. Slimdog probably lost thousands trying to buy his record deal with Cashbox and then he's back at it again. Somebody needs to talk sense to clueless artists who get sucked in like naive little fishies. Ash Ferry you're probably defending it cause you wasted your money too.

Actually it's a real character flaw to be wanting the trappings of success so badly that you leap into laughable scenarios like these.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 9:19:44 PM

Tell me what is your hobby, or line of work?

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 9:20:38 PM

I'm a brain surgeon. :D

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 9:21:53 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 9:27:57 PM

You're serious? And you never answered the other question, are you out there on the net accusing iac of being scammers too? Are you nagging other artists about iac and other music sites? Not to take a chance here because iac charges a fee?

No, I do not have any music on Uplaya.

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 9:24:41 PM

Well when you're cutting into skulls, you better be. :D

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 9:34:32 PM

Hey no editing after I answer.

Music sites generally charge a fee for space and such. That's a big difference from selling a record deal or offering a silly service where a computer rates your songs that you surely have to have the mind of a child to believe in. I'm utterly shocked that Slimdog spent money on that, especially after the Cashbox fiasco. Somebody needs to look out for artists about garbage like this. In my opinion IAC shouldn't even allow this kind of link on the pipeline because some people may get sucked in out of desperation.

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 10:09:38 PM

I agree somewhat on the linking. It's a rock and hard place for any website, and there's a line that can be easily crossed. Linking is a major key on the internet. I do know that my staff would have respectfully sent you or anybody a kind personal message by now, to refrain from attacks on other members and websites in a public arena.

I'd so love to hear you say something positive here and not try to kick a man down for doing a lot more work in reaching his dreams of being, than you and me and several others put together. Your negativity is catchy. I'm getting the Negs now.

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Conversation Suicide

10/11/2009 10:18:20 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 10:49:46 PM

PB, your being a pooh-bear. quit poopin' on this blog.

Slimdog is doing what ANY of us would do, if we had the money, he's trying ANY and EVERY channel to get his Artist's MUSIC out there.

It helps them, it helps Slimdog Productions, and EVENTUALLY it may help li'l ole IAC.

Translation: Shut up with your negative SHITE, Perfect Banana. You're being retarded. We've ALL paid to play at times. In this fucked up world it's the only way to get noticed, sometimes. Uplaya sounds about as good as some of the other sites out there. If I had the money, I'd probably join too; and let a computer generated program, and some crappy judges, tell me that I shouldn't quit my day job. It builds character, ya know.

When your mostly unknown, like me, you've REALLY got nothin' to lose.

So seriously, let him go with this.

It could be another voice for getting the IAC Artists movement out there, ya know?

-pHaBoy pHLeGm
(a little beat up, after jumpin' on the bandwagon, with Slimdog and others, just a bit to quick with the whole Juliette Lewis thang. She may not return to her roots here on IAC, now that the Film Star has a successful mainstream music project. That said, I'm still not quite ready to give up on the PROMO idea for Juliette and Her Licks, or to move her OLD tunes out of the Top 10 on my stations, yet. For now Project Raisin In The Sun, is GO ahead, full steam)

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 10:40:00 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 11:01:29 PM

I wasn't gonna say anything Banana, but here it goes...With Cashbox: They are under a name that has been alongside Billboard magazine for years. They have been promoting and charting artists here on IAC for sometime now, giving us indie artists a chance to shine when other charts wouldn't even give us the time of day. I followed them for awhile, even before "Dear Momz" hit their top 10 on R&B/Hip Hop Indie Charts and went to #1 soon thereafter. I saw the good things that they were doing for artists here and when they approached us about an idea about starting a record label and using their own booking agency to try to get all who signed on radio and to promote us on their sites & magazines and to do shows, I said, "Why not? They have done some good things here at IAC for artists. Let's just say for the record Mike Peace, the VP of Cashbox (who is an artist here as well) had a unfortunate stroke (I wish him the best) and he seemed to be one of the main cogs that runs Cashbox. Things crumbled with us after that. Banana, maybe I made a mistake. I take the blame for that, but should that stop me when someone else approaches? I did my homework with uplaya. They have been reviewed by Harvard ( I downloaded a copy. I can send it to you if you want), in the New Yorker as a technology to watch, tested by major label producers that are using them as we speak, the founder of the group Chicago, Robert Lamm, has a mashup contest going on now for his indie label, Blue Infinty for the Chicago song, "Beginnings", the winner to have their mashup on his remix album, they have contests going on sponsored by MTV.com, Urban Latino.com, All Hip Hop.com, American Songwriter Magazine (all those sites get over 20,000,000+ hits A MONTH together. Would those sites stake their reputation on some scam? You know they did their research), reviewed by NPR, have a deal with The Orchard, review in The Economist and that's just some of the publications in the US. I'm not even including the ones overseas (both Atlantic & Pacific). I was interviewed by phone by their PR department in Newark and by the CEO himself before they decided to have me speak about my experiences on using their technology on NPR. When I did the interview with the CEO, I was at the hospital with my mom, who was in critical care. David said we could talk later and that he would say a prayer for my mom in his prayer group and to call him back when things were ok (Mom is fine). Bullshit or not, that was nice. He had other artists he could of used for that interview. Honestly, that $90 I spent has gotten me WAY more than my money's worth so far...If nothing happens, so be it, but honestly, I doubt it.

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Conversation Suicide

10/11/2009 10:49:00 PM ---- Updated 10/11/2009 10:50:42 PM

I love it Slimdog.

You really did your homework.

Always nice to know another intelligent, hardworking Artist/Promoter on IAC, man!

ROCK tha fuck ON with yo' bad self, my musical brother.

AND EVERYBODY out THERE listening: VOTE for NOBULL's offering "I SPY", from Slimdog Productions, in the HIP-HOP category. Give it a few good listens, and you'll see it's WORTHY to go ALL THE fuckin' WAY!

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Slimdog Productions

10/11/2009 10:56:07 PM

Thanks all for the vote of confidence...Banana, thanks for your concern in your banana ways (I can see through ya' homie). We'll just see what goes on from here. Peace,

Slim

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the perfect banana

10/11/2009 11:23:57 PM

Do his homework???!!!! That's ridiculous considering what this is about.

Harvard????? Harvard endorses the fake music evaluation machine!! Then Harvard knows nothing about music. Are you out of your mind? Use some common sense you bumpkins.

Ash Ferry and Conversation Suicide, you're doing a very evil thing here backing up the gullibility of poor Slimdog. If you were a friend to him you'd give him a virtual slap upside the head and tell him he doesn't need to be a slobbering scamsucker.

This post needs to go in the archives of the P.T. Barnum Hall of Fame. There's one born every minute and there's several of them on this blog.

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Fidney Joneson

10/11/2009 11:31:12 PM

Slimdog, my man.

I just wanted to tell you that I created a special time machine. We found an old phone booth at the city dump and we rigged it up with some wires and for the low low price of 635 dollars, we'll let you step in and you will appear at Radio City Music Hall for your own solo concert in 2011. Are ya in, man?

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Anon E. Mouse

10/11/2009 11:34:51 PM

That's cute.

But Mr. Banana already stole your schtick, sweetie.

-Doobiuos DoobieMeyer the Cat

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 11:43:45 PM

Go root on the signed artists. Surely they'll notice you.

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Fidney Joneson

10/11/2009 11:45:07 PM

Mouse, yo, you failed your anon G.E.D, didn't you, you're not funny, you don't understand anything that's happening. You should go back to using your regular name cause you're a letdown to the field. Might as well be boring as yourself.

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Fidney Joneson

10/11/2009 11:56:02 PM

Ash F., I can get you a gig at the Hollywood Bowl if you have 349 dollars. I take paypal.

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Ash Ferry

10/11/2009 11:59:09 PM

Fidney, you can not be trusted with my money. Show me your credentials.

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Anon E. Mouse

10/12/2009 12:01:55 AM

How 'bout 349 wallops with my south paw, Mr. Fidney?

The massive head injuries will mix WELL, with your broken funny bone, buddy.

-Doobious DoobieMeyer the mildly humourous Cat

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Fidney Joneson

10/12/2009 12:14:08 AM

Here you go Ash F. It's my diploma from Yale.

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Ash Ferry

10/12/2009 12:29:22 AM

Nice botch job :)

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Hop On Pop

10/12/2009 1:35:21 PM

Listened to the story, Slim.
Nice work there.
And, I like your comments on the page, too. Makes sense.

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Slimdog Productions

10/12/2009 1:45:11 PM ---- Updated 10/12/2009 1:46:23 PM

Thanks Todd,
I wish NPR would of put more of what I said in the interview, but oh well. Of course, like some here, ther are some at NPR who are against this technology. I invited those naysayers to come by to check out our music here at IAC, to see if it is "Black Eyed Peas, cookie cutter music":

"David Bell Jr. (Slimdog) wrote:

Ryan, you are right. I'm David Bell Jr., the artists that was interviewed. Block Scholars have some 100 songs made BEFORE I went to uplaya to analyze some of them. I wanted to see if any were "hits" according to uplaya. If you all think that all music will sound like "The Black Eyed Peas", you all are ivited to come by my site and listen to our music at our band homepage at: http://iacmusic.com/artist.aspx?id=18168 Our music is not the "cookie cutter" type of music you are hearing on radio nowadays. Those of you that are knocking uplaya, have you tried it yet? I don't have to change my art. I'm not making music for uplaya to tell me "it's a hit", I am making music for ME first and foremost. I do have songs that got low scores as well. That will not stop me from putting those low scoring songs on our album because we do like them. Uplaya is not a "tell all be all" for your music. It's just one validation, one guide to maybe help you select which of your songs to put out.

Monday, October 12, 2009 2:00:01 PM at NPR"

"David Bell Jr. (Slimdog) wrote:

My comment was made for Dwayne. Dwayne you're right. Ryan, DJs already use laptops on stage. Where have you been? Dj's use laptop because 1000s of mp3s in a computer are easier to carry than 10crates of vinyl to a show. Have you been to a Rave or Hip Hop show? Those shows bring in hundreds sometimes thousands of people. I've heard some of the artists that have gotten awards on the site. Some amazing music to say the least. Live Spanish Rock band, a musician that have been endorsed by Stewart Copeland, Korean Hip Hop, Electronica, Country & much more. Tell me Ryan and others that disagree with the technology, how are all those different groups sounding alike. How are they killing music as we know it or should I say, "as you think you know it?" I have heard some seriously good musicians while on this site. They want a chance to be be heard, like Block Scholars does, among the 12,000,000 other artists that are trying to get heard out there in internet land. Uplaya is just one way for unknowns to get heard.

Monday, October 12, 2009 2:22:30 PM at NPR"

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Ash Ferry

10/12/2009 3:25:38 PM

LOVED the article broadcast. Just heard it and really is great, your song was aired and your voice and opinion. How great is that. Interesting, the entire article, the different views are fascinating. Wish they would have put more of your interview in there too.

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