Foie Gras, food from hell, please sign petition by Maria Daines on The Pipeline at IndieMusicPeople

Foie Gras, food from hell, please sign petition

Dear all,

I recently signed this petition to ban Foie Gras in Philadelphia and every city counts! The comment before my signature was excellent, I had no idea a Chicago chef had created a cruelty free alternative to Foie Gras, called 'Faux Gras' well done to him!!

Sign here -

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/457352482?ltl=1155064773

Thanks for sharing if you are able, best wishes, Maria xx

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SqurlyMurly

3/15/2007 5:02:00 PM

signed, sealed and delivered, Maria! what a perverse and disgusting act.

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Dr Terribol

3/15/2007 5:42:34 PM

Hello
I signed that.
I'm a chef, not active anymore in it, tha'ts one of the manythigs I hated about the whole cheffing bizznizz.
What I hate at the moment is British TV it looks like it is run by a chef, seeing that is all you see now, cooking programmes, all the time. I get stomach acid watching them. They present a lot of this crap as if it so normal now. Food snobs.
I only ever saw that stuff we just signed about once, thank god, and the head chef was letting everyone try it, because it was so dramatically expensive for like a slice of bread sized bit 100 dollar or something mad, and he thought it tasted all wrong and vile so he was testing it out on everyone, after everyone admitted it tasted rotten he declared he thought so too but all of the well-to-do customers wanted it so he had to make it.
But, he was wrong, he didn't have to, he chose to place himself/assert himself/put himself in that position nobody has to do anything, everyone can choose, you can jump off of the top of the Holiday Inn but you do not have to do anything.
The boss was a shit, from a very rich family and they were restaurant owners since forever and even Grand Hotel owners, they owned Krasnapolsky in Amsterdam, and generally, they underpaid staff, didn't pay on time, didn't pay travel expenses on time, they did everything like the staff wewre servants from the 1700's we were not allowed to ever walk through the restaurant, in all the time I worked there I'd never actually been in the restaurant itself even though I stood across from the head chef, doing all of the vegetable dishes, oven dishes, mise en place, the desserts, the entrees, on 12 cooking burners, so a whole lot of food. Lots of staff walked out gradually and long after I did too, they changed things so that staff got a life of some sort, so they had two shgifts one producing then one that came in at 5 to serve it up through the evening whhereas before, we did it all, with one team/brigade. I didn't even get paid, it was an apprenticeship arrangement whee I got dole, but had to work 12 hours a day without hardly a break, 20 minutes to eat no tea brreaks or anything at al, is it any wonder these food (they call it food) fanatics are insane and are not in touch with reality, like as if people want to watch other people cooking all day and evening on TV, I think not, most people want proper programmes.

I'd watch those news things going on about Nigaragua saying they were working 12 hours a day and I was shouting out to myself shit but I'm doing the same here in modern old Holland.
In the end I couldn't take any more, I'd put all of my principles aside trying to get on, I was a vegetarian, just about a vegan, then I worked with people who were real normal as it goes, like normal as in just plain consumers who did not want to know about environment and their own influence on the well-being of the planet.
They just cooked to show off to make it look great and taste good but no principles no life philosophy behind anything they were doing.
Anyway, ruined my joy for being enthusiastic about what I did. taught me a lesson, do what you know is right not just things to make others happy, or to shut them up.
Please make a petition to ban cooking programmes on the BBC.

ciao
Dr T

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SqurlyMurly

3/15/2007 6:23:30 PM

it makes me gag just reading about it, and as bad as it seems for me to say something really awful----would it be justice if all those involved choked on their own indulgence of this horrible nature?

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Maria Daines

3/15/2007 11:25:38 PM

Thank you Squrly!! Yes it's so awful we had to write a song about it tonight, will upload here soon but the whole story is on this page link for now & free download to whoever can use it to spread the message, if is stops just one person from buying this stuff it will be worth it!

http://www.maria-daines.com/music-48.html

I think I've only sworn in one other song but this one I had a couple of pennies worth, damn it felt good :)

Love to you
from us xx

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Maria Daines

3/15/2007 11:29:33 PM

Thank you for your reply Dr T & always great to hear from you, yes we get a lot of cooking shows here! They are especially annoying if you're hungry and the only thing in the kitchen is bread with no margarine or just some stale old cracker that has gone way beyond it's shelf life! And those people you were working for sounded way off course, glad you're not there any longer :) It's late here so I will have to log off but all the best to you, many thanks for your input & take care.

Maria :)

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Maria Daines

3/15/2007 11:32:24 PM

To Squrly - yeah, if only they had some kind of conscience or a heartbeat would be nice! I can't imagine knowing anyone that would buy this stuff and say they like it knowing where it comes from and at what cost in terms of misery, the fact it's expensive is another sick joke, sometimes don't you just wonder about people!

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Dr Terribol

3/16/2007 2:15:25 PM

Hello again computer screen.

Just kidding,

Maria and Squrly Whurly and all the other conscientious gentlefolk.
Maria, it sounds like you could be me, what with your kitchen with stale old bread ahaha. Do you know that programme, 'Who lives in a house like this', Well I keep imagining them coming to check my place out,

As they walk in, the door open, And Who lives in a house like this?

As the floor creaks and collapses
hihihiha

I am from England Maria, one of those Ex-patriots, but thing is, that title is inaccurate, I've never been a patriot. Not like that, I believe in the family of earthlings but all that narrow-minded nationalist stuff, no, can't swallow it.
Year ago you'd get like cartoons now and then, on telly, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Tom and Jerry, at least that type of sadistic fun was nice
ahaha
Think Tom and Jerry would have become such good friends had they ever seen a pic like this above of some poor goose, that is really very nauseating.
We can't give up.
I've had batterings too Maria from people who were not willing to see anything, you know, how it goes, so they would, instead, put me down, say everything I was into was crap or make a fool of me.
But the more I hear about, climate devastation, not CLIMATE CHANGE (because just like that guy from Blurr was saying yesterday, that title is far too kind, because it isn't climate change, it is the "end of life" as we know it, if the entire earth doesn't wake up) how much more sure of myself I become knowing I and others like me always did have it right, we wasn't talking shit.
The very frightening thing is though, that I keep coming to the conclusion that things will get much worse before better, because one of the worst human traits is self-centred behaviour. So in this stubbornness towards change, stubbornness towards admitting responsibility for the effects we have through what we've caused, we just carry on causing more bad effects.
Those of us who at some time sort of woke up and tried, have had to deal with survival, surviving in our open-mindedness, without giving up, even if at times we also fall back down which is only human. Still, I know, personally I never ever did lose track entrely of what I know is right, which is a thing going far beyond muy own well-being, far beyond that of just my friends or family but, a view that is unable to close-off a view which leaves nobody and nothing out. Because no matter what, no matter how humans create disturbed and insane views about reality, we are, always a family of one, and nothing can get done without that. All people who have meant anything at all, have all somehow had a larger vision of these things the unity thing I mean, the family of life.

We are supposed to be the part of life the division within creation that analyses itself and makes choices choices a lion or an elephant can't make, they survive within what they find themselves but humans, we are the lucky ones the blessed in being able to make changes, changes no other part of life within creation is able to do in the same way as us, but, even so, we are not superior to an insect or a bat or a cat, we are just able to do something they are not just like they are also able to do things that we cannot do, it is this bit, this fake superiority syndrome that underpins all of lifes' problems on earth. We as part of the chain are out of balance, we do not know how to integrate and assimilate the manifest, so we continue to believe in nonsense and narrow things down to the immediate vicinity like lover, friend, family, but the lesson we all need to master is how to embrace the all,
and make things work right for us, what a wonderful world.

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Maria Daines

3/16/2007 7:25:31 PM

Dear Dr T, you amaze me! Your words hit the nail right on the head and I wish I could write like you, you have a far reaching vision of a better world that is compassionately evolved and I hope all those you meet in this life understand where you are coming from and gain a spark of positive energy from your presence. Thanks again for your input & comments, always thoroughly enjoyed here and I always take something away that I can use in my own life, maybe something I hadn't thought of before or a new way of saying something difficult. And yes there is ignorance everywhere but also open minds and it is the few people who are not engaged with anything other than 'self' that get in the way of progress for the planet - and most of them are politicians LOL!! Still selfish people are a minority unto themselves and I have a feeling the world community of caring individuals will give them an example they wish to follow to make a difference, one day!

I'm coming back with a link to a fascinating interview that I hope you can listen to on IAC, bye for now, Maria :)

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Maria Daines

3/16/2007 7:43:59 PM

OK, here's the link to the Greg Allen interview with Paul Richmond from Zest Radio Show (he's a great advocate of green issues) & in this recording they are discussing the bigger picture of global warming & the need for renewable energy -

http://iacmusic.com/artist.aspx?ID=39853

You can find the whole interview by clicking this banner and the first 3 parts are on the IAC page link above, enjoy! And I hope you gain lots of knowledge from this work & enjoy the songs connected with the discussion.

Oh and while I'm passing on this little lot here's a video of Greg Allen delivering a speech on the same subject!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwWvsgee22g

How did we get to this from Foie Gras?!! Well I guess it's all the same thing, be kind to the world & all her creatures, yes indeed :)

Bye for now
Maria xx

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Dr Terribol

3/18/2007 9:23:32 AM

Dear Maria,

Thankyou very much, you're very generous with kindness.
I just got back to here, and saw your posts, will check your links out and get back again, til then,

Dr Bol

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Dr Terribol

3/18/2007 10:38:05 PM

Dear Maria,

I'm listening to that off your link and digging it right now.
I like what they are debating/conversing on (no relation to sport's shoes).
Only he idea that they are sat in the forest of Ontario, is making me jealous, I wouldn't mind spending a year (maybe more or forever) in the vast wilderness of nature. I never was in Canada, but I imagine it to be like some magic place, with all of that nature there.
Now I stopped smoking, I think I can survive on very little, sure need some food but there's not a lot I need, I like it that way, okay a senorita and some guitar strings and a shelter, but I'm so anti-materialistic, I love it. I gave everything I owned away when I was 16, I went through a process, it made me feel so free. I was listening to Bob Dylan sing when you have nothing you've got nothing to lose, and someone explained, what he means Terry, is that mostly, in society, people struggle all the time to have so many things, much of what they do not really need. And having a mentality that way, causes most people unnecessary grief, for fear of losing the things they've gathered, they covet those things are afraid of someone taking them, afraid of the things being broken, but, these things cannot make them truly happy.
Suddenly everything seemed to slot intro place and I saw the light of that way of thinking, and I had a few things I collected, and, I suddenly saw the futility of it, and started to give the things I had away, as I went on, I found I could not stop, until I'd given every single thing I had, away, how much more I released how much more I was filled with joy. How much more I felt myself to be released and to be reborn.

After that, I went to Africa and India and I never looked back, I have never regretted that process and I've never been able to connect to material possessions as how I had been before my release from the imprisoning nature of them, and I never did try to reconnect in the old way.
when I disconnected to those temporary inanimate objects I felt myself connect to real life, I was able to reach inside and get closer.
I still am the same way, I could leave everything I have at home, tomorrow morning, the things I have are also not worth money, I did it like this on purpose.
I must admit it was another song that helped me in my process, and that was the line in John and Yoko's song where they sang, You don't take nothing with you but your soul. Nobody, as simple as it may seem now, had ever presented such concepts to me, in fact, within schooling and society, after all, everything was and is geared towards accumulating an abundance of objects. After my release I could see it all so clearly how people were hung up by things, material things, even my own family members.
When my dad died, my sister and brother were looking at the things they could choose to keep, but, after 5 minutes, I could not take part with them, because to see them, was painful to me, to see them, even at time of death, being engrossed and overtaken by a false sense of belonging, by wanting to keep things but applying an attachment to them, as a replacement for life, the life that had passed on and was not that personality anymore, I know people have sentimental value with those objects but, I could not take part in that game, the emotion behind it, which could never be the human we lost could never be a replacement.
So I walked away and let them share the stuff, and they never understood me. I see this mind-set as part of the reason there is war, famine and children and grown-ups still dying unnecessarily, because of the not being able to let go, and because of the panicky sense of grab-mentality, as possessions is concerns which is the main contender as concerns greed and the inability of humans to truly share the abundance in this world.
I mean, anyone can enter with me into discussion about it, but how can a human being possibly imagine it to be okay to possess a billion dollars, say what thou wilt,

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