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Lars Mars
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6/13/2017 9:51:38 PM
Do You Experience Synesthesia?
I had heard the word before, but never bothered to research it. Imagine my surprise to find that it included me. It's something I always took for granted, like having a good memory or running backs who know where every player on the field is throughout a play.
There are a great many forms of synesthesia and the variety of manifestations are interesting. Mine are both "Number Form" and "Spatio-Temporal".
But with as many musicians as we have here, I was curious how common the more sound triggered forms (Chromesthesia, Auditory-Tactile, etc.) are among us.
Glenn
I have only highlighted a small part of the article, there's much more here:
Wikipedia - Synesthesia
Little is known about how synesthesia develops. It has been suggested that synesthesia develops during childhood when children are intensively engaged with abstract concepts for the first time.[10] This hypothesis – referred to as semantic vacuum hypothesis – explains why the most common forms of synesthesia are grapheme-color, spatial sequence and number form. These are usually the first abstract concepts that educational systems require children to learn.
Some synesthetes often report that they were unaware their experiences were unusual until they realized other people did not have them, while others report feeling as if they had been keeping a secret their entire lives.
Chromesthesia
Main article: Chromesthesia
Another common form of synesthesia is the association of sounds with colors. For some, everyday sounds such as doors opening, cars honking, or people talking can trigger seeing colors. For others, colors are triggered when musical notes and/or keys are being played. People with synesthesia related to music may also have perfect pitch because their ability to see/hear colors aids them in identifying notes or keys.
The colors triggered by certain sounds, and any other synesthetic visual experiences, are referred to as photisms.
Spatial sequence synesthesia
Those with spatial sequence synesthesia (SSS) tend to see numerical sequences as points in space. For instance, the number 1 might be farther away and the number 2 might be closer. People with SSS may have superior memories; in one study, they were able to recall past events and memories far better and in far greater detail than those without the condition. They also see months or dates in the space around them. Some people see time like a clock above and around them.
Number form
A number form is a mental map of numbers that automatically and involuntarily appears whenever someone who experiences number forms thinks of numbers.
Auditory-tactile synesthesia
In auditory-tactile synesthesia, certain sounds can induce sensations in parts of the body. For example, someone with auditory-tactile synesthesia may experience that hearing a specific word feels like touch in one specific part of the body or may experience that certain sounds can create a sensation in the skin without being touched. It is one of the least common forms of synesthesia.[24] However, some speculate that the common phenomenon of autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR), in which auditory stimuli or trigger words create a tingling sensation in the body without being touched, to be a form of auditory-tactile synesthesia, meaning that it could be more common than current statistics imply.
Spatio-temporal synesthesia
In the manner of number form synesthesia, the spatio-temporal synesthesia is a mental map of days, weeks, and/or months of the year. Individuals presenting this synesthesia type declare that they can "see the time", for example, in the form of a ribbon, ring, or circle. According to certain researches,[32] those individuals possess peculiar synaptic connections in their brain, allowing them to perceive time as a spatial construction.
Like other forms of synesthesia, spatio-temporal synesthesia is consistent in its occurrences; even when tested months later, a synesthete will report the same experiences that they previously did.
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6/14/2017 11:49:48 AM
Whoa.
Hey Other Me, you wanna take this?
I don't even know what the heck to say.
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6/14/2017 11:53:11 AM
Hi Lars Mars.
You're a Great Band indeed.
We have So Many Fantastically GREAT BANDS Here At Indiemusicpeople.com
Now, am I speaking to Glenn Rice?
Okay, do you understand, what all this is?
Could you say it simply, in your own words,
keeping it to say, a hundred words, if you can?
I'm asking you to,
I'd like to understand what the heck this is about,
my brain isn't being very cooperative
with all that blabberianostome wiki had to say however.
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Father Time
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6/14/2017 12:47:51 PM
Some things take reading more than once. Like when I see you reprimanding somebody for not being concise enough, I go back and read it because it's hard to believe you in particular would ever say that.
but getting back to the topic..
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6/14/2017 2:55:02 PM
Okay, so, do you understand all this?
'Cause I don't.
If I had to guess, based on the word,
maybe that's
when you remember, a thing more subjectively as it was to you,
than as it actually was objectively?
That's a guess. I have a brain, I applied it, I got that.
And by that yardstick, I guess we're all that.
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Lars Mars
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6/14/2017 7:55:38 PM
Two apologies:
First to listeners at The IMP. It didn't occur to me until after I posted that I had inadvertently posed the question only to musicians.. this one is open to everyone.
Lesley second.
Sorry for the confusion. Yes, it seems that the article was written by someone who studies the brain, not someone used to talking with we real folk.
Anyway, these are not my words either, but it is a simpler (but limited) explanation:
Neuroscience for Kids
"Imagine that when you see a city's skyline, you taste blackberries.
Or maybe when you hear a violin, you feel a tickle on your left knee.
Perhaps you are completely convinced that Wednesdays are light red.
If you have experiences like these, you might have synesthesia."
None of the above examples include music (or sound) and colors, which I think might be a more common type.
Hope that helps,
Glenn
PS.. thanks for the compliments re: our band.
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6/16/2017 5:36:20 PM
---- Updated 6/16/2017 5:37:37 PM
Well yes, your band is great. Awesome even.
Uh, we covered one of your songs, because it was awesome.
Well the song was, we did our best with it. Our version was more Beatley
'cause I'm firmly of the mind I channel dead Beatles, and we did a more
Beatley version, as I recall. We'll do that. We're one thirds crazy and two thirds dead.
Meanwhile,
Glenn whatever possessed you to post a thing like this?
Now I have to figure out all sorts of stuff.
For instance...
Oranges all have faces. Everyone.
I was doing fairly well ignoring that fact,
but that ship's left without me. Thanks.
The skyline distinctly tastes like smog. Duh.
When I hear a violin, I pee on someone's leg,
don't be near me when the violins start, and consider that fair warning.
Wednesdays are not exactly light red, but that's not far off, they are pink.
Pink is however not light red. It is pink, you wanna make somethin' of it?
I only feel a tickle on my left knee, when, uh,
I hear a violin and do the other stuff, 'cause usually, uh, you know,
dripping may occur?
So...
And who the heck thought it's a good idea
to call neuroscience a word spell checker doesn't even recognize-
a thing for kids? That's just plain cruel.
First they wanna make you go to school before kindergarten,
which is cruel and unusual punishment...
now this?
Stuff like this, is why the dolphins will fly away
singing
"so long, and thanks for all the fish..."
Stuff like this.
Roses are lies. Violets are stink.
Beer is puke, belongs in the sink.
Daphnes are Zeldas,
Zeldas are Friedas,
Friedas are Melbas,
and Melbas are not always Toast, but I've met some.
I like rye bread.
I would like to pontificate upon the virtues of Rye Bread.
It is however been many decades since I was
in Rye Playland, so I wouldn't half know what I'm talking about.
That may be okay for everyone else in the world, who fakes it,
and thinks I don't know, but I like to be informed.
I formed an idea, built a spaceship out of it,
and soon, may fly away,
if I can just make the damned thing fly.
Fly dammit!
Maybe it needs more pie.
Pie is a very good thing.
Pie is like home.
Only home is elusive, and pie, is more dependable.
Actually anyone who has ever eaten LSD,
has probably experienced some degree of
this 'intersensory phenomenon',
that seems to be spoken of here....
LSD made me able to hear music 3 dimensionally...
like, before, it was just, over there, like, on the wall where the speakers are.
All of a sudden,
it was all around me,
and I was inside of it.
That never stopped incidentally,
even after the LSD wore off.
Oh and now I could hear God.
He sounds like Burl Ives.
He Sings, like Burl Ives.
as I was walking to St Ides,
I met a man like Burl Ives...
By God, God IS Burl Ives.
and now I want a fruitcake.
Oh wait. Whew.
Good save.
I am a fruitcake.
Pretty sure.
What do you think, dead beatles?
They're not answering to spite me,
they know everyone is watching.
They're listening too, haha,
and you're afraid they'll hear you,
and drag you back into this world!
I know the game.
They dragged me back into it.
This taught me much.
Do it far more irretrievably next time.
Here Lies Fuck You.
Something like that.
I do taste blackberries....
when I eat blackberries.
I've been trying to make it stop.
So, I haven't had any blackberries in a while.
Raspberries are similar, but tastier.
And if you ever see that the dolphins have all left earth suddenly,
don't panic,
but make sure you have your towel with you.
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LyinDan
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6/16/2017 7:38:55 PM
I don't think I have any of this.
I constantly hear music in my head, but it's just auditory. No colors, spaces, etc. It's more like emotional math for me.
I think we all have some interrelational correlations between all kinds of things, has to do with how we learned (very early) to think. We learned this is kinda like that, and the this and that vary. Anger is red, and those blaring trumpets piss me off, etc. Sadness is blue (this must be a common one, because it's so trite).
On the other hand, since I don't correlate this way, I may be completely full of shit on this. It's just how I understand it, and you can't really, if you don't see things the same way.
As for LSD, and other drugs, and the way they open your mind, I think that's just correlational. It may open the correlations, or paths, through which you think and comprehend. Those who haven't done it could never understand it. And of course, some of those correlations can be just totally false.
And some aren't.
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