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3/8/2016 8:07:51 AM
What can we do to bring more ladies to the pipeline?
I think they've mostly abandoned us. Maybe because we're so boring all we want to do is talk about site issues.
I think we need to address this.
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Two Silo Complex
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3/8/2016 8:15:11 AM
Well we could tie them up and drag them here but I think that is illegal and yes its a joke.
By and large rock is male dominated and there is not much pop scene here. More ladies involved in pop than rock. So if we can draw that genre it will bring those female artists with it.
TSC,
Ken
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Chandra Moon
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3/9/2016 4:27:00 AM
There are quite a few women artists here (I wouldn't call myself a "lady" exactly) and I try and add a good mix to my stations. I don't think women particularly enjoy engaging in pointless slanging matches - I do enjoy reading and posting blogs about music etc which I suppose I believe this site is about.
It's also true that women in general are less techy and less likely to suss out setting up and uploading tracks here - I found it took me ages to learn the basics of recording etc as it is pretty much a male domain - if more women were encouraged and learnt those skills it would reflect more here and other music sites too.
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Richard Scotti
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3/9/2016 7:06:08 AM
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I think that most young women are very into tech stuff because they all have smartphones which are essentially little computers. They are constantly uploading photos and downloading music from various sites. Older people in general, both men and women even if they have smartphones are still not very comfortable with mildly complex technology.
My daughter-in-law is very tech savy as are most of her friends who are all professionals in various fields. Most jobs today demand a knowledge of technology and young to middle age women really know their stuff. Young women who are musicians and/or singer songwriters create their own websites and on and on, and so it goes. I don't think your theory is correct in this area although I have seen some young women in the studio who are a little reticent about the technology of recording. They are more interested in the art part than the tech part. But I don't think they would have a problem with simply uploading a song at this website.
I'm no technie but I find the tech part of this site to be the most user friendly I've ever used. There are still some things I haven't mastered yet but I know the basics and they were pretty easy to learn.
I do however agree with you that some posts on the pipeline can be offensive to women but I don't know how to resolve that issue. Lately, it's been pretty tame and people have been behaving themselves.
My theory is that young women are more interested in going to college for advanced degrees and trying to get good jobs that pay well. They are actually out pacing men in this area. Men are still trying to be rock stars and women want more practical things like a good salary, a husband with a job and all that goes with that. Of course there are exceptions to every rule but I think that some generalizations are pretty accurate.
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Two Silo Complex
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3/9/2016 2:45:02 PM
Well Richard tell you female techies to stop by on the phone or tablet or heaven forbid computer what a relic that is (ha ha)
Have them give is a spin maybe we will blow their techie woman minds.
TSC,
Ken
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Chandra Moon
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3/10/2016 4:34:09 PM
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I didn't mean women can't use smart phones and upload MP3s I meant more the actual recording of tracks to a professional level using recording software/hardware. Workwise I was extremely competent using computers for day to day work but it took me ages to suss out music technology and in the end I used a professional producer to get my music out there.
Believe me, as a woman it's hard to go out on your own to open mics, do gigs and have the confidence in general to push yourself forward at the same time as working, bringing up a family etc etc. I didn't start writing songs till my kids were grown up and as an older woman it was very challenging as it is very much a young persons business. People expect you to look good on top,of everything else as well!
Anyway someone asked why there aren't so many women and I think that's partly why.
I don't mean it as an excuse just there are extra hurdles to get over. From the pipeline point of view I'd love it if more women chipped in to the discussions here - that would also encourage more women to come forward.
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Two Silo Complex
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3/10/2016 7:47:19 PM
I agree with everything you said Chandra,
It's very hard for a woman out there in this male dominated industry. As far s learning recording that is daunting for anyone no matter the gender. I've been recording a long time and still learning. I see more women in pop, folk, and country maybe some women folk singers. Women in the rock world few last more than one or two albums. Chandra you Rule! your an inspiration regardless of gender.
Peace,
TSC,
Ken
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Chandra Moon
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3/11/2016 5:27:02 AM
Thanks Ken!
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Richard Scotti
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3/11/2016 6:17:13 AM
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Sorry if you took offense at anything I said, Chandra, You mentioned something about difficulties with uploading tracks here but I didn't realize you were referring more to the actual creation of the tracks. No one can upload tracks that aren't created in the first place. I understand now that you are talking about using pro-tools or logic or whatever and believe me I find those methods of recording extremely difficult. I'm a very non-technical person myself and struggled for years to finance my recordings by hiring musicians and going to pro-tools studios and relying on engineers to capture my performances. Now every everything is more expensive and I haven't recorded that way for years. I learned how to record at home and it was very hard at first. I've gotten pretty good at it but I still have so much more to learn. I love to write and play. I hate technology and home recording but it's the only game in town that I can afford.
That being said, you are a major inspiration to me and others. Your determination to overcome obstacles and perfect your craft is so admirable. You've come such a long way as an artist and this is due to the masterful way you have brought people together to work with you and how you built a team that supports your artistic objectives. Every song you put out since your first appearance here has gotten better and better - both artistically and technically. Your singing has become so polished and authentic and the way it's recorded has also grown by leaps and bounds. Your world view of music and your eclectic approach to sounds and an exotic flavor to your work has made you a force to be reckoned with.
I consider you to be our ambassador of musical good will spreading your message of love and peace where ever it takes you. If we had more female artists like you on the site, it would be a far better place. I share your desire to correct the gender imbalance here. Too much testosterone obviously has it's drawbacks! There's nothing more rewarding than women and men working together towards a common goal. It's more fun than a boys club in my opinion - so please continue to hang out here in the hope that your presence and your message will resonate with other woman who might have a similar situation to yours. Your work ethic and your artistry are things we should all emulate. Thank you for being here in good times and bad. Don't get discouraged by the nonsense. It will get sorted out in due time.
The site is still evolving. And I believe in evolution.
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Two Silo Complex
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3/11/2016 7:21:48 AM
Hey Richard that's how I feel about music as I quote on my page.
"Music is an evolution constantly changing becoming more refined."
I don't want to get off subject of the gender gap so I will post something you might find interesting on your page.
TSC,
KEn
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3/11/2016 1:56:20 PM
Chandra, it's hard to go out and do an open mike alone,
this is certainly so.
I was a woman in my previous life, which is where the 'Jane' part
of my name comes from....
but it's not much easier as a man...
I had a friend, Susan, who used to accompany me
to open mike nights, and then, I went, fairly regularly.
She passed away, not long after nursing me pass the loss
of my wife, and now, I just don't do it anymore.
I stay home, I make records.
It's not easy. Helps to have someone go with you.
My method of record making is mostly organic,
I imagine it usually before I figure out how to do it.
Well we do what we can....
whatever life we're in...
I'm American Lesley Jane and I'm no exception.
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