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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 12:48:38 AM
Can you hear me Doctor Wu?
Don't let that song get in your head or you'll never be able to get it out.
Fagen must have been on some kind of a good buzz when he wrote that. I don't even like jazzy music but that record is one of the best ever.
I wish it had Rikki Don't Lose That Number on it cause Pretzel Logic never did much for me.
Kid Charlemagne live was really a treat, also, I tell you.
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3/26/2008 12:54:32 AM
Is there gas in the car... yes there's gas in the car...
Are you really just a shadow of the man that I once knew?
Are you crazy, are you high or just an ordinary guy?
Have you done all you can do?
Are you with me, Doctor?
Asia ? huh ? Asia...c'mon... give me Steely Dan and some batteries and I can go all night... yeah ! ( lurking back to my evil lair from whence I came...)
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3/26/2008 12:55:53 AM
Yeah but the Nightfly ... Nightfly ... sexy stuff you winged gimp
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 1:10:13 AM
Aja is my second favorite. Who you callin' a gimp you you bungee jumper. Drink your big black cow and get outa here. :~D
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3/26/2008 1:17:02 AM
Last night I dreamed of an old lover dressed in gray
I've had this fever now since yesterday
Wake up darling they're knocking the Colonel's standing in the sun
With his stupid face the glasses and the gun
I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I just got the goodbye look
( I may be a bungy jumper but at least I don't bang my head into a window to try and leave a room ! ) BuZz ouch....BuzZ...ouch....buZZ... ouch
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3/26/2008 1:22:58 AM
I'm Lester the Nightfly
Hello Baton Rouge
Won't you turn your radio down
Respect the seven second delay we use
( Lou Chang burns with rage ) oh god I need to bathe I feel dirty now...
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 1:25:25 AM
Obviously the flies you run with are rather pedestrian.
I should mention I flew in your window one night and watched the festivities. Kinky! :~D
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 1:29:50 AM
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I also found this intellectual discussion of the song.
Expert: Mike McGibney
Date: 11/9/2002
Subject: Doctor Wu
Question
Who was Doctor Wu?
Answer
Dr Wu: Quintessential Dan, a mixture of cynicism, despair, hope, and ultimate redemption.
My apologies you werent happy with the answer.....I did say that the sources I normally refer to aren't to hand at the moment.
However, I have done some research, so here it is:
[Official Biography] Donald Fagen: " "Doctor Wu" is about a triangle, kind of a love-dope triangle. I think usually when we do write songs of a romantic nature, one or more of the participants in the alliance will come under the influence of someone else or some other way of life and that will usually end up in either some sort of compromise or a split. Okay, in this song a girl meets somebody who leads another kind of life and she's attracted to it. Then she comes under the domination of someone else and that results in the ending of the relationship or some amending of the relationship. When we start writing songs like that, that's the way it usually goes. In "Doctor Wu" the "someone else" is a dope habit personified as Doctor Wu. In "Haitian Divorce" it's a hotel gigolo. The details of "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" and "Through With Buzz" are vaguer but the pattern is the same."
An alternate idea: Dr Wu is the narrator of the song. You see, some women tend to destroy the men who fall in love with them. The poor guys never find out 'till it's too late. Anyway, Katy tried....And I strongly suspect Dr. Wu is now using. But there is a 3rd person, the one to whom he is talking. She's a woman from his past that has come back into his life somehow. She adores him, but she is like Eponine to him. She's there for him if he would just open his eyes. His eyes, however, are too full of Katy so he doesn't really notice her, which is why we can imagine his surprise when he saw her just as he woke up from his Biscayne Bay dream. And for once, she's come at a time when he realizes he needs her (for now). So it's she that is always singing to him, "Are you with me Dr. Wu?...Has she finally got to you.....Can you hear me Dr.?" BTW: Dr. Wu isn't his real name. It's a nickname she gave him a long time ago.
Alternate Theory 2: This story is in chronological order. First, a man is down on his luck, "almost crucified", and Katy tries to help. She lifts him up. They sing a song of joy and love. Katy falls for dope (Doctor Wu) and her man becomes just a shadow now - not so important to her anymore. Her love is now for dope. Man waits for Katy. He doesn't know about her new "love". He searches the city looking for her. Even looks in the slums (the bay). He longs for the fun, "tastes", and songs of love they used to sing together, but she never comes. He finally finds her. Katy lies, because she never intended to meet him. She is with Doctor Wu and is "high" on
him. The man is surprised to see her in that condition and not caring enough to even meet him. The last verse flips back and forth with perspective to who is talking. "Are you with me Doctor Wu......" is her talking to her dope. But "she is lovely yes she's sly......" is probably the man's friend consolling him and saying that she got to him and that he is only human. The last line is Katy repeatedly talking to her new love. It is a story of new love broken apart by a drug addiction. He has to go on with his life -- and she falls deeper and deeper into her love for Doctor Wu.
Alternate Theory 3: A popular interpretation is that Dr. Wu is a Coke dealer (diet and classic, is there any other kind? Oh, Cherry!) and Katy is Coca Cola incarnated as a seductive woman who ultimately is untrue.
The character singing the song is a caffeine addict and popaholic. He can't stop his Coke habit!
Unusual Theory 4: I know this goes against basically all other interpretations of this song, but it came to me after listening t
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3/26/2008 1:31:11 AM
Oh yeah...I remember that...thanks for cleaning up
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3/26/2008 1:36:01 AM
Fly.... GET OUT OF THE HOUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my head hurts... and I never want to see you again
It's not fun anymore fly...( whimper...whine...) It's just no damn fun anymore...
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 1:52:16 AM
Take a couple of aspirin ya fickle bitch. :~D
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3/26/2008 2:17:11 AM
Where is the love fly ... you've broken my heart : (
Cold, daring
No flies on me
Sorry, angel
I must take what I see
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 2:33:54 AM
You don't have any flies on you because you're so high maintenance. :~D
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Verity
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3/26/2008 6:16:08 AM
You know just lately I'm having trouble keeping up with some of the topics being aired in the Pipeline. I don't know if it's my age, geographical location, IQ or even species....anyone else struggling ?
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srm
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3/26/2008 6:18:35 AM
Sometimes you just have to take the bull by the tail, and face the situation.
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 6:21:01 AM
This one was for Steely Dan fans, Verity. The next one will be about you maybe. :~D
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srm
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3/26/2008 7:30:57 AM
Actually, Tom Baker was my favourite Dr. Wu.
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Roach up your nose
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3/26/2008 7:32:28 AM
I didn't loose that number ~ Ive been standin in line for days! - l@@k it's 1,292 and your still on 925!.... can I just give a quick shout to request a simple mind's song and hope one day you'll get to those crepes! :~P
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JOHN FRY
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3/26/2008 8:30:04 AM
The Cuervo Gold
The fine Colombian
Make tonight a wonderful thing
Hey Nineteen is not just a song for me, but a roadmap.
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Stegor
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3/26/2008 9:23:02 AM
srm - you made me laugh out loud! Well, at least a quiet "heh!"
Verity - I'm with you on some of these esoteric threads lately. I try to keep up with what goes on here but I think you need to be seriously addicted to the Pipeline to follow some of this stuff. It seems that some of us are!
I like Steely Dan. Dr. Wu is a good song. I like Pretzel Logic too. Don't like pretzels much though. Um, shoot that's all I can come up with.
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LyinDan
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3/26/2008 9:34:23 AM
I'm with Fry, Fly. Always wanted to say that. And now I have.
(Esoteric enough for ya?)
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The Man With No Band
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3/26/2008 10:22:12 AM
Verity ... might I offer you this advice....
"Bury the bottle mamma, it’s grapefruit wine
Kick off your high heel sneakers, it’s party time"
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Stegor
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3/26/2008 11:06:59 AM
Speaking of high heeled sneakers, two of my favorite Steely Dan lines have to do with shoes:
...Bad Sneakers and a Pina Colada, my friend
Stompin' on the avenue by Radio City with a
Transistor and a large sum of money to spend...
...You step upon the platform
The man gave me the news
He said you must be joking son,
Where did you get those shoes?
So what is symbolized by the recurring theme of shoes in Steely Dan's music then?
And when you throw out your gold teeth, why would they roll?
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3/26/2008 11:19:06 AM
I dunno...maybe because a man's shoes and teeth are most times symbolic of his stature ? maybe...
Did you know that "Steely Dan" was named after a dildo in William Burroughs' "Naked Lunch" ? hee
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3/26/2008 12:07:24 PM
I still can't get enough of asiaaja a zsa AajaA doh
Deacon Blues is my all time favorite
( thought I'd interject that useless piece of info )
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fly on the wall
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3/26/2008 12:19:36 PM
{sings} I don't wanna do your dirty work no mo.
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JOHN FRY
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3/26/2008 12:49:08 PM
Did you know? Eagles - Hotel California Lyrics They gathered for the feast They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can’t kill the beast.
Steely knives, was a shout out to Steely Dan
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3/26/2008 1:43:39 PM
You call me a fool
You say it's a crazy scheme
This one's for real
I already bought the dream
So useless to ask me why
Throw a kiss and say goodbye
I'll make it this time
I'm ready to cross that fine line
(ps to fly... thank you for posting that brilliant discussion... I think I'm gonna make a poster out of it cause I'm a geek... )
I love this part amoung others...
"Dr Wu is the narrator of the song. You see, some women tend to destroy the men who fall in love with them. The poor guys never find out 'till it's too late. Anyway, Katy tried....And I strongly suspect Dr. Wu is now using. But there is a 3rd person, the one to whom he is talking. She's a woman from his past that has come back into his life somehow. She adores him, but she is like Eponine to him. She's there for him if he would just open his eyes. "
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Duane Flock
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3/26/2008 6:34:43 PM
Steely Dan is my all-time favorite group! I'm glad to see how many people can quote all of the great tunes!
Any Major Dude Will Tell You my friend that Bodhisattva on a Black Friday during the Change Of the Guard would help Kid Charlemagne with Reelin' In The Years for My Old School in Brooklyn. Only A Fool would Say That I Got The News from Josie about her Green Earrings and the Haitian Divorce plus The Royal Scam when The Razor Boy did some Dirty Work and Peg said Do It Again but Don't Take Me Alive. Hey Nineteen Babylon Sisters sang Deacon Blues to the Kings Of The World standing in Bad Sneakers, ..........but then.............we all knew it was just Pretzel Logic because Doctor Wu told Rikki Don't Lose That Number cause he needed to fix Your Gold Teeth.
Me......... well, I'm just a Midnight Cruiser
D.
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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3/26/2008 6:50:31 PM
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In the beginning we were told that the world was hurled----
Barrytown people got to be from another world----------------
-I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown!!
--------- a small town on West coast NZ
Fly that was awecome---you should be someones speech writer!
Cracka----High Maintainance?
Duane---heh heh!
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LyinDan
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3/26/2008 6:58:06 PM
You guys are great. Tributing one o my main main.
I know all the chords to Deacon blues. On guitar.
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Kevin White
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3/27/2008 7:01:27 AM
Wow ...
Almost Karma how many folks gathered here share this ...
The Dan was my favorite group ... but I don't go much for their current fare.
Kev-
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