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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/2/2007 4:49:54 PM
--------To America?
this is for all our buddies who were in yesterdays online brawl--------------------------------????
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/2/2007 4:51:58 PM
oops ------------check the new songs list near bottom or our site!
Make luuurve not War!
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fly on the wall
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11/2/2007 5:16:31 PM
I just wanted to say, not to disrupt your thread, but If you think that was a brawl, you must be somewhat new to the internet. That was pretty mellow compared to most political discussions out there.
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/3/2007 1:51:05 AM
------------still a maggot actually!
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fly on the wall
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11/3/2007 2:37:22 AM
That was nasty. You're lucky I'm not a bee. 8>D
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/3/2007 5:34:37 PM
fly and larree,
life is short -----I prefer LIGHT to HEAT in these discussions-------------I didn't see any points that are new or going anywhere---------except maybe from Troy, and one Comment you made Laree------about where America sits at the moment!
I like most of the Artists on both sides of the debate(if you could call it that!)
I agree that these issues are important, but frankly, the quality of argument is basically name calling---------------!?
Just because it is happening ALL over the 'net doesn't make it any more valid ------------I have always stood against the "Lowest common denominator" in music,
TV Reality shows, and heavily spun News! it's just plain lazy thinking-------in my view !
thanks for responding -----I enjoy both your input on here ----now it was also of course, an excuse to pimp my song-----and I bet you haven't listened yet?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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The CODE
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11/3/2007 6:20:37 PM
OK...so a few fucks makes this a brawl?
Mostly pillow talk and high emotions!
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Jeff Allen Myers
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11/3/2007 8:09:24 PM
--I didn't see any points that are new or going anywhere---------except maybe from Troy, and one Comment you made Laree------about where America sits at the moment!
Yea? I don't type in forums just to be seen friend...I guess you are far above being enlightened by someone else's opinions... Thanks for the ringing endorsement of the time I took to respond to a thread that was started to get a reaction....and a little participation.
Cheers...
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/3/2007 10:09:45 PM
Jeff I respect what you are saying-------and yep I did read what you said, and Sam, and others who I have met here!
I'm not American------and where I come from---------- it is not so common for folks to shout at each other-----it's a cultural difference if you like?
I have been a participant in other threads on other sites-------and it often seems like put downs become "the Norm", that is what I find annoying.
eg. www.worldsentiment.com
I know you have more than done your share of Rational debate, and I applaud you for that and I'm sorry if you took offence!
but (as an aside) we get the worst of your culture on our TV screens, (most programs here are american)-------- and political respect for the 'Land of the Free' is at an all time low here----- and in other countries I have travelled to.
THAT does worry me!
in music------- Rob
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BJ
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11/3/2007 10:44:00 PM
Hey Rob, it's cricket season in the Antipodes. No more "Doctor Phil" on afternoon TV for a cuppla months!
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The Man With No Band
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11/3/2007 11:16:27 PM
Well Larree ... I don't think the rest of the world can ALL be so wrong... I think we have a lot of animosity out there because our leaders are ASSHOLES !
NOBODY FOR PRESIDENT !!!!
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SqurlyMurly
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11/3/2007 11:24:39 PM
What Larree said! It kills me when people say they hate America or Americans, then turn around and say well actually its Bush and the political wheel that we don't like. I never liked Marcel Marceau but I didn't go around saying things like I don't like the French or I don't like mimes...oh yea I did...I don't like mimes. They're scary.
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11/3/2007 11:34:49 PM
Mimes are evil. :D
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The Man With No Band
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11/3/2007 11:38:07 PM
Muriel...
I see nowhere in Robbie's post where he said he didn't like America ... and his song expresses that he would like to visit the people here..
His statement ...
but (as an aside) we get the worst of your culture on our TV screens, (most programs here are american)-------- and political respect for the 'Land of the Free' is at an all time low here----- and in other countries I have travelled to.
THAT does worry me!
does say things about us though...
The T.V. here is just pure garbage and I threw my T.V. away almost 10 years ago and I don't own one to this day and I don't plan on buying one either...
He said the political respect for the U.S. is at an all time low out there...
And why shouldn't it be...
We are NOT the world police.... Our leaders have a terrible attitude problem... We present ourselves as saviors of the earth... What a bunch of B.S.....
The World was here along time before the U.S. was..... and I'm sure it would be capable of continuing without us....
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Holo Lukaloa
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11/3/2007 11:49:27 PM
I think the very worst thing about the Bush Legacy, even worse than this stupid war, is that US' standing in the world has fallen so greatly.
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The Man With No Band
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11/4/2007 7:00:54 AM
The last time I was anywhere near a T.V. was during the fires in So. Cal. .. I happened to catch a segment from FOX news channel .... at least locally here they fucked up that story by saying California didn't want Arizona's help ..
Then when they started talking about Brittany Spears I heade out the door...
If that's the kind of crap you watch .. it's no wonder your head is so F.U.C.K. ed up !
...:)
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The Man With No Band
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11/4/2007 7:09:36 AM
And I have been to Hollywood and to Detroit and if you think Hollywood is just like any other town you really need to get away more often ... !
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The Man With No Band
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11/4/2007 7:44:27 AM
Larree didn't mean to offend you my friend..... guess it's a little early for dry humor ...
I was trying to give F.U.C.K. a plug ! didn't you notice my smiley face ?
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The Man With No Band
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11/4/2007 8:03:52 AM
Not only 125 mph on the 40 ... but on about every highway in America ! Fun ain't it ! and I did it in style on my H.D. a few times !
PEACE BRO !
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Jeff Allen Myers
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11/4/2007 11:27:09 AM
I live Near the Fires...I turned on CNN...A day later they were linking the fires to Global Warming! Yes friends FOX = conservative CNN = LEFT WING Liberalism
Choose your poison friends....
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SqurlyMurly
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11/4/2007 2:07:41 PM
Sam, I didn't say that Silverwood made any sort of dislike reference. Larree mentioned that some people have no respect for the US anymore and I was simply referencing some of the things I've read and heard.
Silverwood is cool and I'm not the kind of person to try to twist things - - it takes too much time and intelligence to do that. And frankly, I have too little of either!
I've a good mime to...never mime. I'm just glad someone agrees with me. Thanks Toby. lol
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/4/2007 4:27:51 PM
God, how I love you guys(&gals)
I woke up this morning and there's a party going down---------I'll duck out and get some drinks and nibbles!
Muriel, --Thanks----You DO know me, I've had a longing to visit the US since I was a small boy---hence dragging out that song!
Larree--You never fail to surprise me---you are a one man riot!
Sam --you already know how I feel-----!
BJ-----All our sports teams are collapsing b4 our eyes-----the Brits just thrashed our League team------South Africa A beat the Black Caps--- give me Dr PHIL!
Toby----clever!!!!
Holo---Thanks ---That is what I was trying to say!
Jeff-Jeff--You are straight up----and I bet a damn good parent!
In New Zealand we have only 4 million people in a country the size of Japan!
We are basically like a small version of the USA but about 15 years behind.
The TV progs I mentioned were the "Reality Shows" about fat pets, makeovers,and soaps-------------the best are "the Sopranos" "Boston Legal" and "Sponge Bob"
Also --------the USA saved our asses in WW2 when the Japs were ready to take over------we owe you!
I do think that the path the Neo Cons are taking is not in Americas (or the worlds) long term interests------------Russia is Sabre rattling, China is buying up the US economy------While ALL eyes are focussed on the Middle East, these countries are repositioning themselves to take advantage
------now who want chips and beer?
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The CODE
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11/4/2007 4:43:44 PM
I love America, I Love UK, I Love Canada, I Love MEast, I Love Aussie & NZ, I love everybody!
What's the problem with that?
I'll have the chips and beer now please!
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/4/2007 4:56:04 PM
-welcome!--------------------------------Larrees rollin' a fatty in the Kitchen?
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BJ
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11/4/2007 6:04:55 PM
OK - Put "Spinal Tap" on the box, crack a bitterly and chuck a few more prawns on the barby.....
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/4/2007 9:39:13 PM
------and guess who's coming to our town?--------Dave Crosby!
Touring here till Xmas--------Dave just said on NZ National Radio, that the current US Administation are imperialists, and most people were totally pissed off that the Dems didn't take legal action against them when they took over the Senate---------
Dave was pretty fired up about it and swore and cussed somewhat------------
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Jeff Allen Myers
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11/4/2007 9:46:42 PM
Along time ago before the Dawn of istory...lived a strange race of people..The Druids.
No one knew who dey were...or..what they were doing, but their legacy remains, hewn in to the living rock of stonenge..
I keep folding it and it keeps, breaking ......It does bother me but I will get over it, I'm a professional...
Kind of a mix of Mozart and Bach .... Kind of a Mach piece...
Don't even look at it...., you've seen enough of that one....
and ....drumroll................. This one goes to Eleven...... ;)
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BJ
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11/4/2007 10:16:48 PM
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Holo Lukaloa
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11/5/2007 6:30:17 AM
That's a rationalization. You can't be dissing somebody who believes in peace as a policy. By that standard you could also say we know nothing about what was going on in Vietnam and the whole hippie movement occurred around that.
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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11/5/2007 3:18:50 PM
That's an interesting point -------------What does constitute "disloyalty" to ones country---------------there must have been plenty of German Jews who wished they had dissed Hitler, in the early 1930s before the Nazis gained momentum?
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The CODE
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11/5/2007 4:37:38 PM
This one will NOT lay down!!!
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Jeff Allen Myers
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11/5/2007 10:15:08 PM
"People hear it and they weep instantly..."
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Holo Lukaloa
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11/6/2007 9:47:41 AM
From Olbermann's show, Nov 1
When he was still secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld used to write 20 to 60 brief memos each day his staff. In our third story of the COUNTDOWN these memos were known as snowflakes. This reminder, enough snowflakes and suddenly you‘re buried alive under an avalanche. Like all of Mr. Rumsfeld‘s work at the Pentagon, the memos reflect the prescription for fear, for unnecessary war, for divisiveness and for the arrogant manipulation of the media so near and dear to Rumsfeld‘s heart.
They stress the importance of elevating the threat of playing offense with the media, and one portrayed Muslims as lazy. They‘re not classified, though they were marked for official use only. Many were obtained yesterday by the “Washington Post”. In May 2004, when the situation in Iraq was hitting one of its low points, after the previous month‘s revelations about prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Mr. Rumsfeld issued a classic whopper; he wondered if terrorism should be redefined as, quote, a world wide insurgency.
He asked aides, quote, to test what the results could be if the war on terrorism were renamed. Another memo in 2004 used snowflake as pep talk. The challenges there were, quote, not unusual, he wrote. And pessimistic news reports were the result of applying the standards; quote, “our publics risk falling prey to the argument that all is lost.”
It was never about reality, but how to manipulate the press and poison the public, especially when he was cornered. In April 2006, when calls for his resignation became coming from a string of retired generals, Rumsfeld issued this memo, “talk about Somalia, the Philippines, et cetera. Make the American people realize they‘re surrounded in the world by violent extremists.” As for other gems, his staff should go on offense with press, quote, “go out and push people back. The war on terror is not a, quote, terminal event.” Keep elevating the threat. And “link Iraq to Iran.”
and Mr. Rumsfeld even wrote that, quote, “too often Muslims are against physical labor, and an unemployed population is easier to recruit to radicalism.”
So it seems is a population subject to the manipulation of the Donald Rumsfelds of this world.
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