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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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6/17/2008 3:17:24 PM
ethics or morals in tunes!
I wonder how many Artists here express their values or ethics in their lyrics or song titles?
Do you believe music can be a catalyst for change or do you think political and moral views should be excluded, and that music should just sound great ?
what made me want to bring this up was a tune I just added from a new Artist !
The tune is "Fallujah" by the Conch-I felt that song deep in my bones-and added it to
"THE END GAME" station.
It has also made me aware that there is only 6 months left of the Bush administration, and people are already looking forward -and forgetting about the terrible attitude the neo cons have perpetuated around the world!
Now is the time to "put the boot' into these guysb4 they rewrite history to their own advantage!
I am also planning to bring back a song of ours that reached #28 in LWWT (Neil Youngs site)
remixed and renamed "In the Name of Peace"
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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6/17/2008 7:13:38 PM
i'm talking to myself again!
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The Man With No Band
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6/17/2008 7:44:01 PM
Quit that .....
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srm
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6/18/2008 4:03:03 AM
I have no problem expressing my point of view in music (re: "Family Values"), and I don't see anything wrong with others doing the same. I don't know that music, itself, can be a catalyst for change. I think it's more the culture that the music springs from that affects change.
Incidentally, Rob, I like your 'new' tune "In the Name of Peace"- I had a bit of a Monterey Pop flashback. Especially during the jam at the end.
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6/18/2008 4:58:58 AM
I'm always moralizing in my songs. heh
Check out Which One? or The Unprofessional or Too Stupid.
FT
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Phlegm
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6/18/2008 5:13:51 AM
Nice guys. here's my dos centavos :
Yes, viewpoints expressed in music are definitely an outflow from our culture & these times that are a'changin' (again)... But based on past history, I think it's clear as musicians we'd be remiss to ONLY have fun with the music. Make it Fun & perfomed well, or beautifully, or catchy or whatever --- BUT We have a chance to be VOICES for change in this fucked up world. So while you're MAKING the best music that you can, allow the muses around you to speak out for CHANGE through your music.
And that includes everything from happy-silly LOVE songs, all the way to Militant PROTEST songs... -phlegm
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The CODE
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6/18/2008 5:21:33 AM
Stay true to yourself and you won't go far wrong!!!
It's a Jungle out there!!!
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Hop On Pop
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6/20/2008 5:06:36 AM
I think that, no matter what we do, we express our morals/values/ethics in our songs. They're all a piece of ourselves, so we can't help it.
That said, I have a song that is told from the point of view of an abusive husband, but I am certainly NOT that.
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never never band
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6/20/2008 9:46:59 AM
---- Updated 6/20/2008 9:48:10 AM
I think everything I've written is pretty opinionated, though I lean heavily or sarcasm.
Morals?
sure, why not...maybe it's more like wanting to express that I do believe something and it matters enough to me to write about it.
As a band, the the more serious we got about a message the more people listened...but it also created some tensions in the band. When we were just having fun and being sarcastic or silly we all got along great, but once we started recording stuff like "presidents day" "industry" and "Americas baby" and playing more of that sort of material live there was more tension...It wasn't that we didn't all believe in the music, it was just some pervasive tension that came from dealing with more serious subjects I guess....
s.
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Jack Heinicke
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6/20/2008 10:43:02 AM
"There she was just a walkin down the street singing Doo Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Doo"
"Hey baby jump over here, and you do the Obby Dooby I wanna be near"
" A-Wop-bop-a-loo-lop a-lop-bam-boo
Tutti Frutti, all over rootie,....."
Now let's talk about ethics and morals in music!
Is there such a thing as music without ethics and morals? Instrumental music even?
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Jack Heinicke
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6/20/2008 11:30:19 AM
And as far as the question if music can or should be a catalyst for change is there anyone on this site whose lives haven't been drastically altered/changed by music? How many stories have we heard from someone who was contemplating suicide and some song came on the radio or wherever and it somehow altered that persons mindset? How many times do we hear a song that evokes a particular time/feeling/experience in our lives either joyful or sad that it takes us right back to where we were? I for one have been in many a funk and all I got to do is be in church singing worship music or put on some Bob Marley and next thing I know funk is gone!
I believe that the power of music is so formidable that it's influence is beyond our comprehension. Can it affect change on global or even local political levels? Should we as artists who create make our creations with the intent of affecting this type of change? I don't know those answers either but all I know is that music has affected change in me and in others and as long as what we do comes from the heart and soul then as the late great Sam Cooke sang, "a change is gonna come".
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never never band
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6/20/2008 12:41:23 PM
a large part of my early political education was from music....
for better or worse.
:-)
I think art in general does well by society when it reflects the social and political climate of the time it was created in.
Artists can give a voice to the voiceless. It's probably the only truly worthwhile thing we do.
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LyinDan
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6/20/2008 5:26:22 PM
---- Updated 6/20/2008 5:32:07 PM
My tunes express morality ineffably. For instance, "Fucking Monica for Hanukkah", the year-long comedy chart leader. You can't get any more ineffably moral than that. Or, "Merry Mary Fucking Christmas", which charted #400 overall on MP3com. Now, that's a higher moral plane (as long as you want to disintegrate Santa's appeal, which has arguable moral grounds). Or the Garden Song, all about roots and the ethics of proper planting (and uprooting). And especially, "Not Afraid to Love You", even though I left "...in that way" off the title. All these tunes are a completely uplifting moral and ethical triumph, and will forever lift your spirit to a higher dimension. With the proper pharmaceuticals, of course.
That said, I could never equal the spiritual and conscientious highs of true classics like, "Wooly Bully" or "Louie, Louie" or "Shake Your Booty". These are unmatchable. I'm truly sorry not to rise to that level.
Edit: I hate editing. I deleted an "s". If you can figure out where, I will reward you with a free CD. Just tell me what you want to download and burn to it. In keeping with the eithical (added "i" intended, I never typo unnentendo) theme here. (Shipping and handling, $25)
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