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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 5:30:15 PM
heratics and rebels
Once again, my blog is moved away from the front page by our merciful moderator, Toby.
In no way does this upset me, the effect on me is quite the contrary. The thought that I have pushed the envelope hanging ten off the edge in the pipeline is rather exciting. Some of you may think I am posting for just that, a cheap thrill, i suggest that, because I have to wonder about that myself. The excitement of an invigourating conversation and moderation inhibiting the continuation of said conversation does have it's appeal and I am no stranger, nor free from guilt of that behavior in the past. But ultimately, I am here for bigger reasons, that (I hope) are not so selfish. This brings me to the topic for this blog.
I have not been silenced like a rebellious heratic. I refer to Toby as merciful, because he has been merciful and allowed some radical threads of mine to stay on the pipeline for much longer than I expected. For this I thank you, my man. But I am a rebel, and I am a heratic. My motivation is not so much for the cheap thrill as it is to share the cheap thrill. We all could use a little spice in our life. The thrill of something seemingly so mundane like typing can actually get the blood flowing rather well when you are engaged with others in the blogosphere.
But this isn't the whole of it either, because as sweet as a good conversation can be, the subject matter trumps the thrill. The thrill is fleeting while the idea, like a seed remains.
We as a society need radicals, we need heratics. Why? well that is my question. Why do we need radical rebels speaking out from atop their milk crates bellowing thought provoking seeds intended to solventize the senses and soften up tempered perceptions?
Do you agree with questioning authority?
Does radical rebellious behavior make things worse?
What would you say if you had a portable podium?
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Product Recall
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9/20/2009 6:21:27 PM
keep the cheap thrills coming, to share is to care.
Isn't it part of mans evolutional make up to have 'rebellious behavior'. In our chosen medium we celebrate those who show and encourage the questioning of authority. We are not drones to society its in human nature to question, evaluate and action change. So be it, do it. Personally i love the way you have spiced up the pipeline, you have raised some good points that have made pipeline bloggers do what is natural to their instinctive core. Question. Evaluate and action change to themselves and their fruitless paths.
En-fucking-core Noah Encore
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 7:04:47 PM
Yes.
:^D
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9/20/2009 7:16:04 PM
I saw what happened, Spaceship. The blog didn't get modded cause of anything you wrote. Thus what you said here is fraudulent. :D
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 7:18:09 PM
It is in our nature as artists for sure to question authority. Authority is to chains as the masses are to Prometheus. The influence that binds our freedom of thought takes the awe out of the experience and limits our perception to a peephole.
How do they (the perverbial authority) pull it off?
My theory it is through fear.
For example, I fear my blog will be moved if I get too radical. Well, it will be moved if I get too radical. My fear is not unfounded, but will I let that bind me?
No, the thought that I am being monitored heightens my senses.
Some folks (as pointed out in a thread @ Not the Pipeline posted today) are quick to cry about censorship. They make a fuss and the substance of their message is lost in a futile attempt to change the unchangable. We would not need moderators if there weren't people who were unnable to moderate themselves.
Consider the art of sattire,.. "All in the Family" back in the day pushed that threshold of censorship through innuendo and obscure implication hidden within the writing.
We (especially artists) have ways to get around the censors, and not only that, but doesn't moderation challenge us to be even more creative in how we present our "Rebellious Anthems"?
// while on the subject of authority, I found a great quote the other day.
"egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity" - Frank Leahy
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 7:22:01 PM
---- Updated 9/20/2009 7:35:11 PM
bluto you ignore the obvious - i am not going to go into why it got moved, but i most certainly did post a blog that triggered the conversation, and that was not my first blog that got moved, AND all that I speak of is relative to the subject matter for which the blog was moved.
you bear no beef, nice try on a drive by, now fuckoff, anon pussy
//edit// you don't really have to fuckoff, I just like to type it, feel free to challenge me, I welcome your thoughts. but you are an anon, and we all know anonymity stems from fear, no?
So what you afraid of? spinach?
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9/20/2009 8:04:55 PM
You've changed your tune quickly. Wasn't 2 weeks ago when you posted that you wanted more anons here. You've also preached about wanting flames and adversity.
Of course when some comes your way you've now spun in a different direction. Now it's not the message at all you want to address, it's this excuse for not doing so you put forward.
I also see you've deleted that blog about anons to cover your tracks. You're shifty. :D
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 9:38:02 PM
You've changed your tune quickly. Wasn't 2 weeks ago when you posted that you wanted more anons here. You've also preached about wanting flames and adversity.
-- actually I posted a tongue in cheek blog titled anons are people too.
..which you have taken out of context. how have I changed my tune?
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Of course when some comes your way you've now spun in a different direction. Now it's not the message at all you want to address, it's this excuse for not doing so you put forward.
----i welcome your comments, I love to have kicking posts around, you anons demonstrate exactly one of the points I make about being timid the avoidance of facing fears,.. as far as anons,.. the more the merrier
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I also see you've deleted that blog about anons to cover your tracks. You're shifty. :D
----i deleted my whole blog up to a certain date, how does that make me shifty?
BTW, you can hold me to this,.. I regret deleting my blog, I hope to never do that again.
you bear no beef, anon, so now, answer my question, quid pro quo, what are you afraid of?
or are you just a coward by nature?
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9/20/2009 9:46:22 PM
So you're anti-anon now. What a disappointment. I thought you were more cool.
Turns out you're one of those half-rebel, half-heraticks. :D
We'll try to keep track whether you're comin or goin since you clearly don't know.
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 10:09:20 PM
@bluto - forgive me for being confused.
I realize my thought process moves quickly, and I tend to pass over details occasionally and sometimes leave things out.
But, I have the same opinion of you. (i thought you were cool too) I do think anons are people, I figure they post anonymously because they are either pussies or just having fun and avoiding reprocussions, either way, that is your perogative. I am totally cool with that.
I enjoy anons, because I enjoy flame wars, guilty pleasure. I enjoy posting foul words and anons are easy targets. Besides, if you are here to have fun and avoid reprocussions, you are a vital part of the conversation because as serious as I can be and as often as I sport my heart on my sleave, I like to keep a tone of playfullness.
So, call it how you see it. I just don't understand how straddling the fence puts me on one side or the other.
btw - i don't know if i am coming or going
so again, fuckoff anon pussy :D
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9/20/2009 10:19:12 PM
I think you should explain to us the pathology of you going out of your way to post that you're favorable to anons and then when one gives you a little grief it suddenly changes to they're cowards. You want to have it both ways, don't you?
Guess what, I don't have to explain to you why I'm Bluto. As far as I know you're not Noah Spaceship or Ferdy whatever you said your name is. I think you're afraid of the unknown, or maybe you know you don't have the intellectual capacity to debate my message and this is why you want to mischaracterize the messenger, perhaps?
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 10:21:07 PM
i really truly regret killing those blogs
the hate and gripe blog was one of my favorites ever. It just sucks that they get moved off the pipe and end up being lost and forgotton.
I officially apologize to everyone who spent time posting on those. I learaned my lesson.
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 10:26:57 PM
@bluto - perhaps, you are right. i have lost interest in explaining it to you, so, thanks for clearing that up, it seems you are set in avoiding any explanation I provide, you still don't get my sarcasm.
perhaps you are a pussy after all, - no explanation needed.
that's sad. I hope you sprout some nuts for your own sake.
as far as my identitiy, it is a moot point
ciao
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 10:35:58 PM
Welcome to weird land F --
The only board where self analysis/feedback is outlaw, and shadow boxing is de rigeur ...
... but though SOME may speak as they will ...
Expect censure because I wrote something critical.
It's pretty regular about these parts.
Artists aren't welcome to comment on matters not their concern. My crime is I can't help but comment on what I see as an artist.
btw ... this is my problem ... for everything is about me. Yet, if things were right, I'd not utter a word about it.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 10:42:19 PM
btw ... I also think IAC's board is one of the most fascinating places on the net.
So with criticism comes praise ... even if they're wrong for certain behaviors.
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9/20/2009 10:46:56 PM
You aren't an artist, don't be so full of yourself.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 10:50:18 PM
You're a chicken.
Stop clucking.
:D
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 10:56:39 PM
@kevin - i hear you loud and clear
i don't know what the fuck my problem is, hahah - maybe I am a glutton for punishment.
it is said, keep your friends close and your enemies closer, but after years of practicing that, I don't even know which is which. at the end of the day i have to wonder if maybe I am my own worst enemy.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:01:41 PM
I say that every time I come back here, F.
But I hate sterile ... so I return.
Nothing here is sterilized for our protection ... it's only sterilized for IAC's protection ... and yet ...
Sterile it's not.
:^D
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9/20/2009 11:03:59 PM
IAC is the only music site where there's direct access to negative posts like yours on the front page, Kevin. It's logical that if non-artists listeners do come around to read the blogs, it doesn't make a good impression you constantly sniping the site the way you do. It's also not surprising that you came on pushing the same agenda after you got Noah's last thread moved.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:06:12 PM
btw ... Brutus ... Bluto ... Blowhard ...
Unless you reveal yourself as an artist, you've no ground to discredit others.
You then become mere shill ... a voice in a wind ... of no substance.
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9/20/2009 11:06:44 PM
Look at the 2 bastions of free speech making hateful comments to me because I'm anonymous. Hypocrisy abounds. :D
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:06:56 PM
Toby, what's my agenda?
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:08:14 PM
Blowhard,
Hateful?
Drama Queen?
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9/20/2009 11:09:24 PM
Kevin, you've been the voice >of< wind ever since you arrived here.
Yes, you blow.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:12:30 PM
And you suck.
You offer nothing but criticism.
You're a black hole ... a vacuum of space.
Anonymously.
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9/20/2009 11:16:30 PM
You're anonymous to me. There's 180,000 Kevin Whites in the US. You picked that name to go in hiding, and your accompanying personality is like a dark cave of bore.
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 11:17:59 PM
bluto, i haven't made one hatefull comment to you. and if you persist on flaming up my blog for your own entertainment without extending to me the same respect as I have you, then your true colors shine brightly through your anonymity.
BTW - fuck you pussy doesn't count, because as I have explained numerous times, it is in FUN, not to mention the fact that that is how I roll. I mean it in a freindly way, just like when I flame scott s. larree, jingo, my brother, my dad, my freinds.
If you don't get it by now, you never will.
thicken your gaddamn skin
I will moderate you myself, if you continue to fuck up my blog.
I will turn you into a NON anon, got it?
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:18:30 PM
You lie.
I'm not anonymous, you know me by my real name.
Yours?
You lie.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:22:57 PM
F ... welcome to the weird.
This place is fascinating.
"Blow it out his ass" didn't insult me ... he only challenged intelligence in argument.
He, as I, take nothing personally in the interchange.
Toby does.
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:24:42 PM
---- Updated 9/20/2009 11:25:08 PM
D ...
Cut some slack to the newbie dude.
Your wordplay ...
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 11:30:00 PM
Bluto wrote some shit before I played god in my blog and deleted it.
hahah!
hypocrite, I may be, but I just wasted your comment
bickety bam bluto, i'll do it again just for the fun of it.
tell ya what, come back in a different anon clothing and I will let you play in my blog again
:D
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 11:32:12 PM
fyi to all anons
i welcome your comments, but I also reserve the right to nuke your asses to palookaville
bluto proved he was one that's needs fucking with
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:39:23 PM
Wait ...
I live in Palookaville.
I don't want them here.
:D
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jingo
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9/20/2009 11:45:10 PM
I have been watching this off and on all evening, because I am a lurking voyueristic bastard. Personally, I like Bluto - but you are God on this thread (at least Jesus) so it was awesome to see him get nuked (sorry, Bluto, but I am an admitted bastard, see above).
Hey, if Bluto ads a "1" to the end of his handle, would that make everyone happy? Adding a "1" makes you a real person, like casey1, frank1 etc - gee I hope they drop in!
Once again, Noah starts a legit thread, then it starts to swerve all over the road and narrowly escapes going over the cliff. Good one, K - do yourself a favor, add another flavor and go "Not the Pipeline". It's not sterile, they even got a cesspool out back if you are so inclined - plus Noah's threads wouldn't get highjacked and rammed into the trees.
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Noah Spaceship
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9/20/2009 11:50:37 PM
hehe
yeah, I only killed one of his posts strictly for guilty pleasure.
and for the record, despite the fact that bluto warrants fucking with, I like having him around for the sake of challenging me on my ideas.
so, if you want to come back and play bluto, i wont nuke you too bad, haha!
pussyanonpieceofcrap :D
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Kevin White
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9/20/2009 11:54:36 PM
Jingo ... nice to see you.
"Not the Pipeline" is great.
I agree w/ questioning authority.
:^D
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Product Recall
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9/21/2009 3:33:23 AM
Aha ha ha ha ha
You gotta love this shit
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The Man With No Band
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9/21/2009 10:01:28 AM
Tics can be a bitch ... especially if they are the tick version and get in your hair ...
... but re bells are are great .... especially if the bells were played correctly in the first place ... kind of soothing ...
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Anon E. Mouse
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9/21/2009 10:07:52 AM
---- Updated 9/21/2009 10:09:18 AM
Oh god I hate Anons....they're almost as bad as these overly-sensitive Indie-types. And such bad spellers, too! It's Heretic not "heratic" !!!
Damn Anons.
That's why I ATE the frickin' king of them - Mr. Anon E. Mouse, for breakfast.
-Doobious DoobieMeyer the Cat
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Noah Spaceship
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9/21/2009 4:04:21 PM
hahah!
I can totally beleive I mispelled that
what a joykof
h e r e t i c - k, think i got it - just dont call me out on any of the 'ie' - 'ei' words I am dislexick is a mofo
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LyinDan
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9/21/2009 10:05:09 PM
Sure! Ask me anything.
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Bob Elliott
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9/21/2009 10:48:22 PM
Everybody on the net is anonymous to me. Except one time I met a guy from VS Planet in real life because he lived near me and had some equipment he didn't need that I did need. He's a nice enough guy.
Everybody else is an anon to me until I meet them....and I've only met one...
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