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Conversation Suicide
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9/20/2008 7:34:53 PM
---- Updated 9/20/2008 7:48:34 PM
Another gig tonight with an eclectic mix of BOTH sets of musicians that I've been working with...
So yeah, rather than be another "man with no band", I've been opting for rotating musicians the last few years. WITH often NO pay for Original music gigs in this TUCSON Town, it makes it that much harder to keep musicians around. That's really the main reason I started playin' the BASS, while being the singer about 5 years ago! One less position to fill. That's also why LATELY I've had 2 versions of Conversation Suicide going at the same time, so when ONE flakes I can still fill in the missing positions with the other. Of course the GOAL is a super tight 4 piece performing our original music, but they almost NEVER all show up for SCHEDULED practice on the same night~!
Anyhooo... I'm sure musicians in other towns are just as flaky, until you start bringing in real money....but even then.... -== : - }
Wish me luck! The show must go on. We get to play 2 sets, probably with BOTH guitarists and BOTH drummers tradin' off....
Oh this crazy life I've chosen. Ready for some forward motion in the tightness area, with this current batch of fellow musicians TONIGHT will be the trial by fire! 'Cause we need to get the SMALL weekend tour thing goin' on, with a quickness...and move beyond the borders of Tucson with our live show.
-pHLeGm
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Slimdog Productions
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9/20/2008 7:57:22 PM
Good luck homie!!! Even with you signing to Romulus, you still have people leaving?
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Conversation Suicide
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9/20/2008 9:01:13 PM
yeah, it's true slimdog, they come and go right now. BUT, once it all becomes for real with Romulus X, it'll be easier for the GOOD musicians to want to be less flaky...
TIME to GO ROCK/ hip-hop / Blues & ROLL......
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srm
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9/21/2008 1:17:40 AM
I didn't see this until late (or early). I expect everything went off alright? It's good to have a stable of musicians 'handy-
...you know, they can be UNstable.
signed,
Mr. Ed
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PopiKoK
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9/21/2008 1:31:36 AM
Hope it all went well tonight. The shows are the easy part. The music is what its about. I think you just need to find the guys that are so into the music you all play and create together that it will start to create its own life. Get everyone so tight and into performing strong as well as just playing together. Then play your shows and blow everyone away. It will create itself based on your energy as a whole.
When I started playing shows live with PopiKoK I was the one who went and got us booked. It went so well that my 4th show was at the House of Blues on Sunset, 5th the Viper Room, 6th House of Blues again, 7th Whiskey..... I had recently made friends with Stevie Wonder's vocal coach and he would come to all the shows. After the second show at the HOB he told me that as a band we needed to start really playing the songs (All originals I wrote). We were always playing with high energy and strength instead of with the emotional energy of the story within the song and it's contrasts. That soon the crowds would know our music and it would not effective because they would not feel what the song is truly about. He then told me that "You need to get over yourself." That threw me for a loop. I said he had me all wrong and that I was too insecure to have a huge ego and that I am always concerned about the whole and not just myself. He then said that what he meant was that while I was performing he could see I was always thinking about how I was singing and how the band was playing instead of putting it out and performing to/for the crowd which is what a bands performance is all about. He was absolutely correct. And that is one of the keys to the growth and success of a band and your music.
Tell us how it went and never stop pushing your music out with all its truth straight past their eyes and into the laps of anyone who listens
Satro & PopiKoK
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The CODE
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9/21/2008 3:51:45 AM
-pHLeGm - I'm sure you will be 'knocking them dead' eh?
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Conversation Suicide
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9/22/2008 5:35:21 AM
Thanks Steve (SRM), The Code and of course SatRO & PopiKoK for the words of encouragement and wisdom.
It's ALL about the LIVE show at this point!
We did fairly well, considering we just became a 4 piece again a couple of weeks ago.
Our biggest failure was actually with promotion & publicity, but we've got LOADS of promotion goin' already for our HALLOWEEN gig, and so shouldn't be bungerin' that one up.
Anyway, thanks for the words & wisdom, and ROCK On Y'all...
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Hop On Pop
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9/22/2008 6:27:21 AM
I feel your pain, Phlegm-boy.
I am another guy with songs and no band. But, I am trying to do an entire album with a rotating cast. It's a logistical nightmare, but I feel like I am actually getting the music out onto the record that is closest to what I have been hearing in my head. Even with those annoying little voices getting in the way!
We should probably jam sometime, if we ever get into the same town at the same time.
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Conversation Suicide
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9/22/2008 6:42:18 AM
Thanks Todd! It would be cool to jam for SURE. I believe the right players will come around eventually if you keep seekin' them out.
When I started out, I was joinin' other people's bands, and didn't have the headache & personel hassles to the same degree.
Sounds like you're gettin' to record it the way you want it, even with collaboration of random musicians.
I LOVE playin' LIVE though, so havin' a BAND is kind of essential. Plus for ME, it's a key ingredient in the puddin'. and as a BASS player/songwriter, kind of need a guitar, piano, or at least a synth player -- Prefer what we got right now --- 2 guitars (ONE if somebody FLAKES), BASS/vocals & drums.
ROCK on TODD, you've got a GOOD ear, and your diversity shines through in your many styles within' your tuneage.
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