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Holo Lukaloa
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6/18/2008 12:50:02 PM
Bush/McCain seek to drill off coastlines now. Some ecology candidate.
It's obvious global warming is a big issue now, we need to find other means, like Brazil does, for instance.
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The Man With No Band
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6/18/2008 2:23:33 PM
It matters not, how many holes we drill into the earth, nor how much oil we suck up out of her. This will have little if no impact on the price of gasoline.
Oil is just like any other "commodity" and the price has very little to do with supply and demand. The price is driven by greedy profiteers (mostly speculators) ... More barrels of oil change hands at the commodity markets each day than could be pumped from the earth in 100 years ... Without the speculators oil would still be around $70.00 a barrel and gas would be $1.00 a gallon ... If you curb the greed you curb the prices ... if you drill more holes, you drill more holes ... and yet I see some report floating around that 67 percent of Americans believe that more drilling will lower prices ... I didn't know we had that much sand in America .... (Think I'll invest in a few barrells of sand) ... Sigh ...
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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6/18/2008 2:32:03 PM
----do you not think the Bush family and friends will be doing rather well, with oil at these prices$$$$$$ ?
maybe he's smarter than most people think?
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srm
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6/18/2008 2:43:52 PM
It's possible, but I doubt it. He has some shrewd 'advisers'.
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Roach up your nose
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6/18/2008 3:25:51 PM
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The Man With No Band
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6/18/2008 4:02:00 PM
One of the best sources of bio fuel is Hemp (Marijuana) and in part that is a big reason it became illegal here in the states in the first place ... I'll see if I can find the article but I can give you a short run down on what it said...
The fibrous stems and branches of the plant are much easier to extract the ethonol from than corn ... They were running automobiles off it in the first part of the 20th century ... Guy's like William Randolph Hurst that had interest in oil put out a smear campaign calling Hemp a dangerous drug because they were afraid of this "fuel" potential ... The government encouraged growing hemp for several years and even subsidized it's planting until The big Boy's got it outlawed ... I also have some government pamphlets from the time frame that show this to be true ...
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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6/18/2008 4:50:10 PM
----ALSO THE AUTO INDUSTRY WIPED OUT THE FIRST "SUCCESSFUL' ELECTRIC CAR-----
General Motors fleet of EV--1 electric vehicles were so efficient, they were on the brink of altering the future of driving in America---even the world.Those lucky enough to drive them gave glowing reviews------
So, why were they all recalled and destroyed?
see "Who Killed the electric Car?" dvd (Sundance Film Festival)
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Nerol
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6/18/2008 5:14:25 PM
Drilling isn't the anwer. Ask yourself: if someone is going broke due to constantly wasting money, is the answer to give him more money or tell him to stop wasting it?
Adding more supply isn't a solution because it addresses the symptom rather than changes the reason: over consumption.
And ANWR isn't the answer either. It's estimated that there anywhere between 4.3 and 11.8 billion barrels of oil there(source). The US uses approximately 7 billion barrels/year. At best, ANWR will give us a few months to a little over a year of oil. And it will take years before oil would start flowing from there too.
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LyinDan
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6/18/2008 5:47:54 PM
Here's a report to the House of Representatives in 1991, touting hemp as a wonder crop.
http://www.naihc.org/hemp_information/content/millerhemp.html
Reportedly, it would only take farming 6% of U.S. crop acreage with hemp to make us energy independent. Henry Ford initially wanted to use hemp to fuel his automobiles.
So, why aren't we farming hemp?
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satch
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6/19/2008 2:38:07 AM
Electric cars, hemp farming, state-subsidised solar panels, all of it, we should have all of it in the USA and all over Europe.
The main reason we don't is so obvious... our governments are in the pocket of big oil and the petro-chem industries. It's the same with farming - chemical-based industrial-scale farming is killing the planet - but we don't have organic or bio-dynamic farming on a large scale because our governments are in the pocket of the agri-chem industries.
It's all about corruption, greed, control, profit - the corporate nightmare, the military-industrial complex!
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The CODE
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6/19/2008 3:55:07 AM
All great points and information posted in the above!
Now...What are we going to do about it???
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Jerry Kabat
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6/19/2008 7:54:56 AM
Does anyone know how much more it is to refine ethanol fuels and the polution of this type of refining is much greater then fossil fuels. We need other sources. Has anyone seen the guy out east with his car that runs on water (not hydrogen) regular tap water. He gets 100 miles per 2 oz. of tap water.
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LyinDan
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6/19/2008 6:59:17 PM
Yes, larree, and they count on our gullibility.
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