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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 6:36:24 PM
OMG, what a day in politics. McCain, is he senile? Take a look and see for yourself. Also, Bush and Cheney BELONG IN PRISON.
Do you want a senile president? Wake up people.
and Pulitizer Prize winning author Ron Suskind's new book exposes the sad and sorry truth that Bush was so motivated to go to war with Iraq that they not only knew there were no WMDs but they forged a document to manufacture a link between Iraq and the terrorists. Suskind's interview shows an ultimate credibility here, he's brilliant. How can everyone not be outraged by this. Our White House is a criminal enterprise. This is repulsive. America's current leadership is a travesty.
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Nerol
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8/5/2008 6:57:12 PM
In other news, Barack Obama is now willing to consider offshore drilling.
1. Patriot Act renewal
2. FISA legislation gives Telcoms immunity
3. Now considers offshore drilling.
That's three strikes.
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 7:09:30 PM
Nerol,
I see you're here arguing with me about Obama when I didn't even mention Obama. I would think you'd be interested in the Suskind story but I see so many like you on the internet. You aren't really interested in the issues. This whole thing has become a cult of personality for you and you simply want to justify that you're not voting for Obama. You care more about saying what you just said than about this huge story that broke today about the White House? What a poor excuse for a left wing guy you are.
You're ill informed, too. The offshore drilling issue in regards to Obama was simply that he was willing to allow some very selective osd in order to help accomplish a new energy bill compromise that would importantly get the ball rolling on some of the alternative energy. The last 3 days he's gone around the nation preaching about how offshore drilling is not the answer. The issue isn't as much that offshore drilling under rigid conditions is environmentally bad, but rather that it
A. won't actually cut oil prices for around 10 years and then not that much
and
B. (most importantly) It does nothing to solve the big problem.
Even that idiot McCain isn't calling him a flip-flopper on that issue because McCain knows how much Obama has been attacking offshore drilling as a solution. Pay attention. Read the news or something.
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Nerol
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8/5/2008 7:16:09 PM
You're willing to elect a guy who doesn't mean what he says and doesn't say what he means. It's cool.
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 7:22:27 PM
Like I said, you only have one issue now, how you feel about Obama because you will only embrace him if he's so far left that he couldn't possibly get elected. You're completely oblivious to the fact that if McCain gets in power, America will be run by more of the same people that passed the Patriot Act and spied on Americans and tortured, the issues you claim to care about.
Take your shallowness to somebody else's blog, please. This is not a discussion for wannabees.
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8/5/2008 7:36:19 PM
LOL, I mean.... is it theoretically possible for a human being to be more arrogant and condescending?
Incredible...
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 8:21:45 PM
Nerol isn't that arrogant and condescending, just uninformed and with a case of hate Obama on the brain.
Speaking of having someone on the brain, why don't you find a girlfriend instead of existing here on the pipeline strictly to come on my blogs and post nonsense?
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The Man With No Band
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8/5/2008 8:24:57 PM
"You're willing to elect a guy who doesn't mean what he says and doesn't say what he means. It's cool."
Has there EVER been a politician that doesn't mean what he says and doesn't say what he means.? ... :)
"LOL, I mean.... is it theoretically possible for a human being to be more arrogant and condescending?
Holo only comes in about third ... behind Dick Cheney and G.W. ... :)
I can't believe that you all haven't figured out that Holo is working for the McCain camp ... and he's doing a darn good job at it too ...
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 8:30:19 PM
The Man with No Band, I didn't see you as one who would conform with the group but it appears that you are headed in that direction. Surely you see I didn't even mention Obama in my main blog here and that only the usual suspects show up to fight with me and don't even care what my subject matter is.
Did you even watch the videos I posted? If you did, I don't think you'd be saying they make you want to vote for McCain.
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The Man With No Band
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8/5/2008 8:40:51 PM
Now Holo .... I had you pegged as being smarter than that .... I've never conformed to Anything or anybody in my life ... :)
Just trying to add a little humor to the situation ... laughter is the key to life ... :)
Of course I watched the Video's .... pretty old news in my book ....
"Bush is a crook" ..... "McCain is a boob" .... stuff I already knew before I watched the Video's ...
As a rider that used to attend Sturgis rather often, I was a bit put off by how the idiots talked down as if Bikers were mindless pieces of crap though ...
It's exactly the kind of down talking that makes people want to vote for the other side ...
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Fat Freddie
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8/5/2008 9:03:31 PM
What is the right way to vote on the following issues Holo?
1)To give no offer of “good time” for sex offenders sentenced
to the County Jail.
2)To require school boards to install software on public computers
accessible to minors to block sexually explicit material.
3)To allow the purchase of 10 hypodermic needles from a
pharmacy without a pre_scription.
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 9:05:49 PM
Speaking of going with the flow, another community member, Hugh Hamilton, just started a political thread, I was the only one to post on it, just about 10 minutes ago. I didn't even post anything that controversial, just agreed about the Iraq War. He then asked for my credentials and then deleted his thread before I could answer. Very feeble!
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 9:10:25 PM
Freddie, those are micro-issues, probably relegated to state governments. Did you ever hear McCain's joke he was telling about rape?
He asked the crowd if they had heard "the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?"
The punch line: "When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, "Where is that marvelous ape?"
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The Man With No Band
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8/5/2008 9:12:35 PM
Not feeble in the least ! ... This is a FREE country and freedom of speech is important to EVERYONE .. not just a chosen few ...
I know that Hugh can speak for himself but I think he got his point across with a short rant and was done with the issue ... (at least publicly)
I know he is a very concerned American ... and cares about the issues greatly ...
He has stated very many times on here that he does not wish to get into the political mesh ... and I respect him for that ...
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 9:16:46 PM
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Well I'm not going to waste my time posting on his blogs if he removes them 2 minutes after I post on them, particularly when he addresses something to me and removes it before I can answer. Yes it was feeble.
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The Man With No Band
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8/5/2008 9:27:20 PM
O.K. ... then how about addressing the issue that I brought up about Olbermann's and Fineman's "holier than thou attitudes" towards Bikers then ...
Do you really think that is the way any human being should act ? ... Do you really think those guys are smart ? ... Do you think that is the way to get people on your side ?
Or do you think they are correct in their assumption that all Bikers are just mindless pieces of crap ?
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 9:50:39 PM
I didn't really see it that way, I think you're overly sensitive to that because you were a biker maybe. Can you imagine what the press would've said if Obama had volunteered his wife for a biker striptease competition (with bananas) ? Countdown is the only show that will even mention it.
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Fat Freddie
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8/5/2008 11:36:26 PM
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McCain's joke about rape? You mean the one where the person who reported never heard that joke herself but it got it second hand from "mulitple sources" none who were ever named??? You mean the joke John McCain never told, right Holo???
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"It's pretty obvious to us that this is a politically motivated sideshow," Torrie Clarke, McCain's spokeswoman at the time, said back in 1986. Till this day it has never been proven definitively true or false whether the Senator ever said the line.
The Huffington Post reached out to the original reporter in that story, Norma Coile (who after talking to multiple sources months after it was told wrote about the response to the rape joke in the Tuscon Citizen) to find out if she thought it was true.
"I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke, but something was said. Some joke involving a rape and ape was said. Enough women repeated it to me at the time and the McCain campaign had a non-denial denial,"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/sources-recall-mccains-jo_n_112955.html
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/5/2008 11:46:49 PM
Many people heard it and McCain didn't even deny it, but said he didn't remember telling it. Today McCain volunteered Cindy for a biker girl pageant that involved stripping and simulated sex acts with bananas. Not that she would've gone thru with it but it shows his disposition.
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Nerol
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8/6/2008 1:53:54 AM
Holo,
Obama just helped the spying and FISA programs. With his votes. You have yet to address these, preferring instead to go into your personal diatribes about feeble posts.
I illustrated 3 issues. Address them. If you can't, or won't, then take your toys and go home.
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 7:33:51 AM
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Holo, there is the belief that the reason so much of the money supporting "The Chosen One" is coming from outside the country is not because those sources love us and want whats best for us but quite the opposite, they want an inexperienced leader who in his own words, will not be president of all the people if elected..
"‘I will stand with the (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’ Quote by Obama: From Audacity of Hope. "
But we know different Holo. It's really of little concern to anyone if Obama supports allowing criminals to sue their victims if they use excessive force to protect themselves, or allowing minor girls to be transported across state lines by another adult for the purpose of an abortion without parental notification, or would allow adult-type of businesses to operate withing 100 yards of public schools. These are trivial matters that are really of little concern. Understood Holo.
But would you please lay to rest those unfounded fears that Obama might really have a hidden agenda as stated on The Audacity Of Hope Holo?
Please now, offer your unique insight on this trivial matter.
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LyinDan
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8/6/2008 8:42:42 AM
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Jesus Christ, Fat Gregg, here's the quote:
“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly: they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during WWII, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Meaning he will stand with ethnic Arab and Pakistani-Americans (US citizens, mind you) against profiling and persecution.
**********, that's low even for you.
(Edited for provocative language)
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 8:51:23 AM
Fat Freddy, that fraudulent quote has already been addressed a few months ago. It's out of context, actually about Muslims IN AMERICA.
Nerol,
One of my friends told me you are a regular on other boards with your same anti-Obama mission. So you've been exposed. How foolish is it for a left winger to be working for McCain as aggressively as you are. You're a clown who bites off your own nose to spite your face.
I already addressed the offshore drilling issue where you are just uninformed. I've also discussed with you here the FISA issue in which not only can it only be truly addressed as president but what that bill also did was put restrictions on the current situation, and make all wiretappings be reviewed by the FISA court which was not true before. So as a short term thing, it actually served you. It's not the telecom companies that should be punished anyway, it's Bush and Cheney and co. Will that happen? Probably not which is unfortunate but we don't know until we see what happens when the Democrats run the White House and the Congress. Obama has indicated that he will prosecute serious criminal acts by the Bush administration and there's a far better chance of that occurring than under McCain, obviously.
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8/6/2008 9:52:00 AM
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Holo says One of my friends told me you are a regular on other boards with your same anti-Obama mission. So you've been exposed.
Sounds like somebody's been doing some "investigation" of their own.
So does that make you a stalker too?
Good thing he isn't a complete anon like you, otherwise you wouldn't have been able to find out what you did - right?
Kinda cool the way you've managed to work things out like that.
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 9:52:04 AM
"Obama has indicated that he will prosecute serious criminal acts by the Bush administration and there's a far better chance of that occurring than under McCain, obviously."
So you do want to see the United States destabilized, so that's your agenda eh Holo?
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 10:12:55 AM
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Well, score one for you Dan, I should have done my homework a little better but still I think other people than Muslims may have been needlessly persecuted as well, somehow I would think they deserve mention also but here's something else you can help clear up.
Will you then also put this quote in it's proper context Lyin Dan. Personally I think the positive attributes of people a person might choose to emulate should not be confined to one small segment of society, especially if that person is later trusted to govern fairly over a society that is made up of people from every other walk of life.
Please explain why the following quote is indicative of the positive character needed for anyone wanting to be President Of The United States.
"In his book "Dreams of My Father", Barack Obama wrote ' I never emulate white men AND BROWN MEN whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself..'
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 10:13:46 AM
Another obsessive post from Saphire who never contributes anything here except to attack me. In fact he even announced he was leaving and removed all his songs because the moderator isn't moderating me to his desire. He still remains here on the pipeline, but he can only be found on my blogs. Interesting.
FYI, I didn't ask for that information, I could care less about Nerol and his leftwing support of McCain. :>) It was told to me in passing when I remarked, some people on the pipeline need to get a life other than Holo.
Holo is my name. Or Mr. Lukaloa. :>D If you can't discuss or debate with me, you don't have to read my blogs.
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Fat Freddie, to answer your question, I believe Bush and Cheney should've been impeached long ago, along with several other cabinet members. They are despicable law breakers, complete criminals, have no ethics whatsoever, and have trashed the reputation of the US around the world. I even hate Nancy Pelosi for not pursuing impeachment, the Democrats in congress including Obama have been far too forgiving of these horrible constitution-destroying bastards.
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 10:22:23 AM
I think what you don't say Holo speaks much louder that the volumes you've posted here.
For example. You still haven't stated your views on the issue of infanticide nor have offered any criticisms for those who make such atrocities possible. Please state why.
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8/6/2008 10:29:24 AM
Simply asked you a question and made an observation Holo. Read your posts, you insult and belittle, and try to discredit ANYONE who doesn't agree with your agenda. I mean read your posts. You talk to people like their dogshit under your feet.
Or are you saying it's ok when YOU do it.
It's a public forum dude, get a hold of yourself.
He still remains here on the pipeline, but he can only be found on my blogs
Not true, at all - which is proof you only read your threads, you're not interested in music, only your threads, and only your agenda.
If you want to hide behind your cloak of complete and utter anonymity, at least be honest and factual in what you say.
Have a shred of integrity for the love of god. LOL
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 10:34:17 AM
You're off topic and loopy. Just to keep you informed, in the future I'm probably going to remove any posts you make that fill my blogs with your dorky choice of YouTubes. Particularly the same ones you've posted before. You are boring.
I have a question for you. Let's see if you can respond. Do you support Bush and-or McCain?
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8/6/2008 11:00:01 AM
I'll assume you're talking to Fat Freddie and the youtube posts.
Who says I removed my music from here?
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Nerol
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8/6/2008 11:43:07 AM
}Nerol,
One of my friends told me you are a regular on other boards with your same anti-Obama mission. So you've been exposed. How foolish is it for a left winger to be working for McCain as aggressively as you are. You're a clown who bites off your own nose to spite your face."
Lol, exposed. Like no one knows who I am!
Anyway, I'm not pro-McCain, I'm pro-Nader, remember? Maybe not.
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 11:48:53 AM
Your page is empty, that's easy to see, along with the fact you had a hissy fit and said you were leaving.
Yes the YouTube comment was directed at Fat Freddie but you're so involved in my blogs that I didn't have time to answer him before you butted in again. :>)
"Read your posts, you insult and belittle, and try to discredit ANYONE who doesn't agree with your agenda. I mean read your posts. You talk to people like their dogshit under your feet."
You misrepresent me. I've spent most of this past week pointing out issues and answering any pertinent question that came my way. I don't know you. You started showing up on my blogs simply because you're one of those bandwagon types who could only get the courage to post here because others were constant adversaries on my blogs. You want to fit in. You also don't have the courage to even tell us what candidate you favor.
It's not quite "a public forum". It's the blogosphere. If you contribute so much elsewhere on the pipeline, link us to all the other blogs you are involved in. It it really is substantial, I'll retract my statement.
That's humorous, the way you said you were leaving, removed your songs and still show up on every blog I make, and then try to reference MY integrity. You need to shake loose some cobwebs and look at yourself in the mirror.
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8/6/2008 11:54:05 AM
There's songs on my page dude, you sure about that? LOL
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 12:03:44 PM
Yes I just clicked your link right next to your post, there. You also took away your picture and replaced it with all black. What a baby. Do you live with your mommy? :>)
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8/6/2008 12:10:17 PM
Reston Virginia? LOL
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 12:11:10 PM
I decided I'm done with your childish obsession with me. If you don't come on my blogs and discuss the issues and cease and desist with the bs, I won't allow you on them. You're a professional troll and need to grow up.
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8/6/2008 12:47:46 PM
Calm down dude, you're a little paranoid.
You're such an incredible douchebag of Biblical proportions, I guess it's just our chemistry. LOL
I'm just having fun, so don't get too offended or take these antics too seriously.
Have a good night (down in Reston, Virginia there). LOL
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 1:13:49 PM
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You should fire your detective, Saphire Sociopath.
It wasn't so fun for you when you were moping to the moderator about me, and removing all your songs in a fit of anger, was it?
Figures you're into the Bible. Many insane guys are. They have an existence leading with their noses, getting all personal and then try to deny their issues by saying they're just kidding around. You need help, perhaps some kind of lockup for a time until you start worrying about your own self rather than focusing on online people to take your problems out on, and trying so hard to fit in.
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8/6/2008 1:30:39 PM
Yep, you got me pegged! LOL
I wish I was a psychiatrist right now, you'd be a treasure trove of discovery.
Just when I think you couldn't get any insaner...
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 4:24:15 PM
Starting the next political blog, you won't be participating unless you stay on the issues.
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Nerol, you aren't working FOR NADER, you're working AGAINST OBAMA, thus you're really working FOR MCCAIN.
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 4:54:41 PM
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Who will I vote for??? Well since right to life is also a top priority and McCain has that cornered. Obama was my first choice till I heard about the women constantly fainting at his rallies with him always at the ready with his bottled water. (That was The Fuhrers trick, remember?)
So that went a little sour when it became apparent these "faintings" were in fact being staged.
http://maxine-log.blogspot.com/2008/02/phony-faintings-at-obama-rallies-medved.html
It's one thing studying the great speeches and lifting segments of those speeches (sampling) and call them your own but this little trick is just a bit much..
Then there is the real issue of allowing newborn infants to die. No normal person can permit this, it just not possible for any rational, trustworthy person to support such a criminal act and speaks volumes about his real character .
So Obama doesn't get my vote, not a chance now.
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LyinDan
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8/6/2008 6:16:16 PM
Watch out, Mar-k, it may be JDR's boy!
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LyinDan
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8/6/2008 6:29:51 PM
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Fat Gregg (Speaking of which nick, ... Marissa was telling the truth?)
Let me point you to Snopes. That might knock out several of your Googled Obama quote? distortions in one swell foop.
Snopes does Fat Gregg a reverse rimjob
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 7:14:35 PM
The guy who perpetrated the fainting story is a right wing loon named Ben Shapiro, who also is a hardcore advocate of no sex at all before marriage. :>)
What you've said here though Fat Freddie gives away your true motive for disliking Obama. Women find him attractive and this makes you despise him.
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 7:15:58 PM
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Obama has made his obsession with race well known and I think just about everyone has heard enough of it. People in this country are mature enough to elect an American to lead them regardless of background, it's too bad we don't have a candidate that understands that. This is just one reason why McCain is leading according to Zogby Polls and Obama's supporters continue to dwindle. Anything is still possible but don't be surprised if McCain takes as much as 25% of the AA vote as well as the leading among all other age and ethnic groups.
This isn't because McCain is a great candidate but Obama's extreme leftist voting record will not help him come election time. You can be pro-abortion and be elected president, supporting and allowing infanticide is another matter altogether. He can kiss the entire Bible Belt and Evangelical vote goodbye.
Again..., no sane human being can turn their back on a newborn infant and allow that child to die. It's not normal and again reveals the real character of a man who is not fit to be president.
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 7:19:21 PM
Most of America is pro choice.
You're uninformed about the polls too Fat Freddie/Truth Warrior
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Fat Freddie
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8/6/2008 11:30:54 PM
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Again, there is no correlation between being pro choice and infanticide, they are two completely separate issues as the honorable Allan Keyes has clearly demonstrated to you Holo..
And again Holo, could you allow a newborn infant to die by neglect?
Yes or no?
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Holo Lukaloa
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8/6/2008 11:56:35 PM
What a loopy angle. I'm not letting you dictate the discussion with your nonsense. You've already brought up 4 or 5 different bogus issues re: Obama. Are you going to get your act together, you raving clownman. Yes or No? :>)
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Fat Freddie
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8/7/2008 7:21:11 AM
That's not a difficult question for anyone to answer except for you Holo. Defending the weakest is a common trait not only in the human world but in the natural world as well.
It's very simple again. Two children are born. One prematurely, the other via 3rd-term abortion. Both children have an equal chance to go onto a healthy long life but only one receives the care that child needs to survive while the other is left to die.
What gives anyone the right to decide the fate of the child who is allowed to die Holo?
Explain.
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8/7/2008 9:35:52 AM
Lyin Dan says Watch out, Mar-k, it may be JDR's boy!
LOL, I doubt that. Very conservative family (as you recall..."Let's Roll! Bush in 2004") and all that.
I suspect if he were his son, he'd be taking him back behind the barn to have a little "talk" with him. His barn in Reston, Virginia that is. LOL
Those were the days. "Let's Roll!"
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