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Janey G.
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10/16/2008 10:07:32 AM
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Songs that mean things you don't expect.
I was with a friend of mine who knows music the other day and we heard the song Horse With No Name on the radio and he said it's about heroin. I will never think about that song the same way, now. Are there any other songs like that you can think of?
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10/16/2008 10:12:09 AM
I didn't know Michael Jackson's Thriller was about sleeping with the children
( yeah ... I know ... back to the drawing board ... where's the Marx Brothers when ya need em )
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fly on the wall
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10/16/2008 10:19:17 AM
Oh I thought that was about his incestual affair with LaToya. :~D
It's a little known fact that the Beatles' Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is about the old I Love Lucy show. If you listen backwards, there's a segment where Ricky Ricardo is singing Babalu. Also there was an episode where Ricky forgot to buy Lucy a birthday present and ended up giving her cellophane flowers that were yellow and green.
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fly on the wall
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10/16/2008 10:24:10 AM
Here's another one. The composer of the epic ballad Abraham, Martin and John recently told some magazine that his song wasn't about Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and JFK, but actually about Abraham Lincoln, Dean Martin and John Timling, his cousin.
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Pulse Eternal
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10/16/2008 11:04:44 AM
Cool idea for a topic Janey. I never twigged about Horse With No Name but now that I think about it, that makes purrfect sense.
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Tony Vani and Debbie Hoskin
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10/16/2008 2:19:29 PM
Yes great topic Janey. One of my favorite songs in the world is Billy Holiday's "Good morning heartache." I was also surprized when I discovered that it is not a love song but that she was singing about her heroin addiction. deb
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10/16/2008 3:28:23 PM
"Puff the magic dragon" brings back memories.
as for "Lucy in the sky with diamonds" that was inspired by a painting that johns son Julian drew which was of a fellow scholl friend flying a kite which john mistaked for a diamond. Therefore the song should be called "Lucy in the sky with kites". If john had listened to his son more he may have been a much better father but peraps not a better songwriter.
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10/16/2008 3:57:28 PM
"Hapines is a warm gun" was a line that john read in a hunting magazine which basicaly means that a gun is warm after you have just shot something.
The herion theory does sound good though but i don't think he looked back on his brief encounter with Herion with much joy.
"Cold Turkey" that's a cracker of the tune and explains that painkiller very well.
"Painkillers don't work when your heads detached from your body"
That's another cracker of a tune which was brought to life with the Hugh Hamilton treatment.
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E Nox
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10/16/2008 6:58:43 PM
right on man thats fo sho cold turkey is some serious testomony
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the perfect banana
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10/16/2008 7:06:25 PM
If you listen to Happiness is a Warm Gun on Anthology, you will be able to deduce that it's actually about heroin and is in fact the best indication that what Albert Goldman said about Lennon is true, that Yoko hooked him on heroin to control his mind.
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never never band
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10/16/2008 10:14:17 PM
we all know what a "steely dan" is by now I suppose..at least if you've read naked lunch...
But those Guys, Donald and Walter were the masters of this sort of thing.
Kid charlemagne comes to mind
there's a great little wiki piece on that one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Charlemagne
Walter and Donald were the masters of the poetically obtuse and witty obscure referneces.
I love that sort of thing actually.
remember that tune Dr Wu?
are you with me doctor wu, are you really just a shadow of a man that I once knew, are you crazy are you high or just an ordinary guy, have you done all you can do....are you with me doctor?
Doctor Jing Nuan Wu (1933-2002), an acupuncturist and artist based in Washington DC. Emigrated from China to the US at a young age and graduated from Harvard to become a Wall Street venture capitalist, finally setting up a Taoist clinic in Washington in 1973. Apparently helped one of the band to overcome drug addiction in the mid-70s, hence the lyrical tribute.
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10/17/2008 3:32:47 AM
hi bannana
Perhaps you are write about the heroin reference but i remember john saying that he got the title from a gun magazine. if i find the quote i'll post it. I think it's just a great title that he found and it's simply him playing with words.
Who cares anyway it's just a fantastic song.
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10/17/2008 3:41:33 AM
songfacts.com
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The title came from an article in a gun magazine John Lennon saw. "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" was the slogan of the National Rifle Association. It struck Lennon as "fantastic, insane… a warm gun means you've just shot something."
I can't the actual quote from john but i bet hugh hamilton will know.
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tom lee
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10/18/2008 5:50:30 AM
i saw the naked lunch movie but haven't read the book. what is a 'steely dan'?
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Richard Scotti
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10/18/2008 8:43:15 AM
It's a dildo.
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