| | | |
DirgeK
|
10/11/2009 8:37:12 AM
Uplaya scores of DirgeK's songs
After reading Slimdogs post I tried an experiment with the two of DirgeK's songs which reached the semi finals in the song contest.
Beat Dancin which has just been eliminated got a score of 7.1 with the comment
Gold Auddy™
The underlying patterns of this song are similar to songs that have become hits in the past.
Coming Home which is in the final got a score of 4.1 with the comment
Keep Trying
The underlying patterns of this song are not similar to songs that have been hits in the past.
Difficult to know what to conclude from that. Is it better to have something unique or to have a song which is likely to become a hit ?
DK's mum
|
|
Jeff Allen Myers
|
10/11/2009 2:24:30 PM
I would not put much stock in it, the program has no way to gauge the quality of voice, the arrangement, lyrics, musicianship. It is algorithm based, the minute music is reduced to this all soul is lost.
No offense to anyone who is into the site, but I am just not buying. It may work for some, I don't know..I do not mean any disrespect.
FYI I got a "Platinum" and a "Keep on trying". :) You get two for free, I'll be damned if I pay for a third.
|
|
DirgeK
|
10/11/2009 3:08:56 PM
Just out of interest which of your songs got Platinum, was it one that has been successful ?
DKM
|
|
satch
|
10/11/2009 3:13:33 PM
But Jeff, with respect, surely you knew all that before you went and tried it out... I just wonder if you had got 2 platinum scores, would you be saying the same thing?
Susan uploaded Glittering Cities, it got a score of 6.1 - what they call "Honorable Mention", I guess it was just plain silly of us to upload Glittering Cities to a site looking for hit songs - I mean, it's longer than 7 minutes :)
We also uploaded Making Mischief which got a Platinum Auddy and a score of 8.5.
DK's Mum, in my view, "unique" is the better thing to have!
|
|
Aimee Terrin
|
10/11/2009 5:21:43 PM
A few sites on the new offer 'Computer Ranking' of Records...
Here are score's for 'Handle Your Business'
www.hitlab.com = 88%
www.uplaya.com = score 8.9 (Platinum)
My opinion, these site rank songs based on algorithms of PAST success..,which is kind of a cool novelty,
But to be honest, best indicator of a records chartability/appeal ---
IAC IAC IAC Station Adds!!! People not a computer...but once again, anything that makes people listen is a great tool.
Trust the listeners @IACmusic...if it's a RECORD, these artists/fans here make it a hit here @IAC
xoxo
A.T.
|
|
Richard Scotti
|
10/11/2009 5:57:55 PM
---- Updated 10/11/2009 6:03:10 PM
The most important thing to remember when evaluating music (imo) is that all judgement of art is subjective. A computer program could be a useful tool in helping to establish some kind of criteria but there is no such thing as a sure thing. If there was, don't you think somebody could invent a computer software program that actually WRITES hit songs? If the software knows what makes a hit, why can't it write one? Then everybody who had this program could have a hit record. Obviously that isn't happening. Big stars who have had past hits sometimes go years without one. If there was a scientific way to get a hit, don't you think that these stars could afford to do it?
I've sent songs to TAXI that got great reviews and some didn't, but once I resubmitted a song that got a bad review and it got a great review from a different judge. They kind of cancel each other out, don't they?
My feeling is, you just do the best work you can, take risks, get the music heard, get opinions from real people and forget about trying to predict what people will like in advance because it's impossible. That's the mystery of art and that's why it's so subjective.
Uplaya, IAC, TAXI, etc. are all things that can be helpful but in the end you still have to sit down and write a great freakin' song though you won't know it's great until after you've written it and lot's of people tell you so. Then you know you have something. A song can be like that proverbial tree in the forest that falls without a sound because no one's around to hear it. At least at IAC, you have an audience of diverse listeners who are appreciating your work (or not) while being counted in the process. The IAC forest is filled with listeners. That's very tangible to me. Computer programs are fun but they don't buy CD's.
|
|
Susan Raven
|
10/11/2009 6:22:28 PM
To Aimee - quite so - I'm really happy to say that our page here at IAC takes simply ages to load because of all our station adds!
|
|
Jeff Allen Myers
|
10/11/2009 7:08:56 PM
Thats silly, Of course I would be saying the same thing.. I got A Platinum.... so what?
|
|
SILVERWOOD
|
10/11/2009 7:12:42 PM
I think that a machine that judges your music is kinda interesting ----
and I'm glad Slim showed us the site----but!
I'd almost like to go the opposite way-----and send my conventional, most generic tune written to a formula---to see what score i get----but I don't have a song like that !!
Dks Mum----ewe see---I Iike "beat dancing"---- but I love "coming home"
----- it's the mesaage and the emotion for me!!!
cheers all Rob
|
|
Slimdog Productions
|
10/11/2009 7:15:53 PM
---- Updated 10/11/2009 7:16:50 PM
Mum & Pop,
One of my favorite Block Scholars songs is "Never Repented ft. NOBULL/Knife Star/Vagabond". Love that song to death. Everything about it: The melody, rhyme style of the artists and the fact that the song is controversial because it talks about a subject at the end that kind of gets hidden under the table. It's a BOLD song. Never heard anyone rap about that subject before... Well, according to uplaya, it got like a 4.3 or 4.4. A little shocked, but you know what? It's still a great song TO US and we are still gonna put it on the album and sell it digitally because WE LIKE IT...not because uplaya says it's not a hit. They are a guide of some sorts if you want them to be... remember that before putting in your music for analyzing. DirgeK is one HELLUVA beatuful singer. I'd put all her songs on a album...
Slim
|
|
Sly Witt
|
10/11/2009 11:42:24 PM
It's interesting..but I'm highly dubious.
I tried it too based on the earlier post.
The first tune I entered, "Insurance", got a 7.1 Gold Audy.
It's a tune I can't get people to listen to.
"Day by Day", which is an IAC finalist rated a 6 'Honorable Mention'.
I'd love to know what criteria and algorithms that they're using. I wonder if C,F,G is an auto hit since there's been so many songs that use it.
|
|
Anon E. Mouse
|
10/12/2009 12:05:12 AM
Computers ranking recordings, with meaningless drivel, that merely compares them to past hits....Bwwaaaaah ahhha haaaa.....
Ooooooh that's so RICH!
|
|
Conversation Suicide
|
10/12/2009 1:08:32 AM
---- Updated 10/12/2009 1:15:07 AM
For ONCE, I agree with that Darn Cat....
It's the HUMAN touch, that makes DirgeK's angelic, beautiful, melodic, yet melancholy and sometimes folksy, voice, RULE.
GO, GO, GO in RnB !!!! We're votin' our little BOOTIES off for ya!
-love, pHLeGm
|
|
Jeff Allen Myers
|
10/12/2009 2:26:26 AM
Why not let the damn computer write the songs then?? Far as I can tell it has all the info required to write nothing but perfect 10.0 Platinum Hits!!! Its a goldmine I tell you!!!! :)
|
|
Conversation Suicide
|
10/12/2009 3:01:03 AM
---- Updated 10/12/2009 3:02:47 AM
Not a luddite, not against technology, but I think the DANCE/HOUSE/TECHNO/Hip-Hop/ and ELectronica progressions in music, in this digital age, have made programs like the ones used at Uplaya possible.
Sigh.
Here's to seeing both TECHNOLOGY, LOVE, and the Human touch, keep new music and ANALOG/Digital creation alive in the New Millenium....
IAC is SURELY a part of that.
Love's Facin' Technology, ya know?
By the way, speaking of GREAT analog, with a little bit of digital effects, listen to THE CODE!
|
|
Anon E. Mouse
|
10/16/2009 5:10:51 AM
Wanker.
-Doobious DoobieMeyer, the mildly repugnant Cat
|
|
| |
�2015-16 IndieMusicPeople.com All Rights
Reserved
| |