The idea of someone being too sensitive to blog well with others by HunkaFunk on The Pipeline at IndieMusicPeople

The idea of someone being too sensitive to blog well with others
I am very sensitive, like a raw nerve really. I admit it, and don't care if anyone else (less sensitive) thinks I'm too sensitive. The anonimity of the blogs sometimes makes an opening for snarkiness, belittling, and intellectual 'oneupness' (not a word, sorry). We all have different motives, and reasons we want to communicate with other artists on the IAC Pipeline topics. My motive is to make new friends with other artists, and hear their music, and learn new methods, ideas, etc.

None of us really KNOW each other (with the exception of those who have been aquainted on IAC for some time). So therefore, we don't know the pain, anguish, suffering, depression, and background of many of the posters. There are some wonderful, positive, enlightened, kindhearted individuals posting here. And there are some assholes. In my travels through life, I gravitate toward nice people, and avoid assholes, when I can. In the murky, anonomous atmosphere of the blogs, it is impossible to not be provoked into an argument by those that find it entertaining to belittle, and berate.

If I'm at a club, and someone comes up to me and says "you suck", or "fuck you", or "you're an idiot", I will tell them (in no uncertain terms) to get the hell away from me. I've done it before, and I'll do it again. I don't need the aggravation, and don't have to interact with assholes, if I don't want to.

In this difficult time of unemployment, foreclosures, untreated, under insured sick people, political divisions, etc. unprecedented in our recent history, a lot of what is perceived as oversensitivity, or thin skinned, knee jerk reactions to other's comments, may be fueled by severe adversity going on unmentioned, in the lives of some bloggers. Perhaps, if we all made an effort to connect with our common humanity, and try to be part of 'the solution', and not contribute to the already overwhelming negativity of some of our lives, we could actually do each other some good.

I was actually told by one blogger here that " I don't give a fuck about Love and infinite Peace".
That was a direct jab at me personally, as that is one of my salutations, as it were. Too bad, I feel sorry for anyone that is so hateful, they don't want Love and peace. I need Love and peace. I think we all do, but some don't. The world is full of bullys. I would like to participate in the discussions on these blogs, but I get a little more joy sucked out of my life everytime I do....So I'm done.

TF

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The Man With No Band

10/4/2009 11:11:53 AM

Hey Tim ... you are real ... no need to be any different ... no need to stop in the blogs ... don't let those that bother you here do that man ...
There is a wide variety of characters on here ... I pretty much enjoy them all ... (I know I'm a bit sick ... :) ... but it's pretty much the same way in the "real" world ... Ijust filter out what I don't need ...

You never know (unless someone tells you), when something you say might make someone's day or bring a smile to their face ... so don't stop posting man ...

Peace
Sam

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HunkaFunk

10/4/2009 11:29:22 AM

Sam,

You are one of the wonderful friends I have made here on IAC, and are truly a kind loving individual. You, and others like you, are the reason that I started blogging in the first place! I am a bit of a neophyte, when it comes to blogging. I'm just not sure (given my present personal situation), that I have the psychological fortitude it takes to participate.

I've been trying to only participate in the discussions that seem civil, but then they turn nasty in an instant. Unfortunately, my inner strength is tapped out, and I don't have the gumption to really be blog minded, and thicker skinned.

Thank you for being there, and being (always) so encouraging. I love you man.

Love and infinite Peace,
Tim

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10/4/2009 11:54:42 AM

Love and infinite peace sound just fine by me. I hope you won't give up on them too readily - I think they're worth standing up for.

If people are nasty to you it can be very painful, and there's no doubt that things that are said online can hurt as hard as something said face to face.

However we do all have a choice as to whether or not to accept the remark if someone says something objectionable. Ultimately the remark belongs to the person who said it, and we can only be injured by it if we accept the gift. Easier said than done sometimes, I grant you.

Choosing to view bullies as pathetic losers does not make you insensitive and will not stop you from experiencing the fullness of the raw emotions that allow you to remain creatively inspired, I promise. You say it's impossible not to be provoked into an argument by "those that find it entertaining to belittle and berate". Seems to me it can only become an argument if you play. You said it yourself - don't interact with assholes. Save yourself for the nice people (I've noticed quite a lot around here) ;-) and refuse the offer of negativity if it is presented to you.

I confess I don't know whether there is a history behind this or whether it's come out of the blue, as I obviously haven't read the relevant posts, but based on what you have written here I hope you will stand up for your positive beliefs and continue to promote love, peace and of course music.

x

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Tom O'Brien

10/4/2009 1:33:49 PM

Whoever doesn't welcome love and infinite peace has certainly never known it. There are so many people in the world who were brought up in atmospheres of neglect, abuse, and emotional distance. People reflect what they've been taught and if our early teachers were full of hate (probably because they come from a long line of like-minded people) then they manifest as bullies, thugs, and haters. Keep being an example of a loving person - it's the best thing you can do. If you have kids, they will help your love multiply and the world will be better for it.

Sometimes, when I come across a disagreeable person, I like to picture them as an innocent little baby. We are all born without personalities. How we are treated forms us into who we become. Everyone was innocent once. Try to remember that.

Infinite peace for sure.

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Steve April

10/4/2009 2:35:25 PM

Well, like the bard said, "what's so funny bout peace, love and understanding?"

btw, "http://www.iacmusic.com/songs.aspx?SongID=65668&ArtistID=93328 really growin' on me, listened many many times...

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Noah Spaceship

10/4/2009 2:41:04 PM

that was me tim is talking about.

tim doesnt seem to understand my sense of humor. Time likes to lecture me about how to conduct myself here. Tim said some seriously mean and pointed rhetoric which seemed to me a contradictory effort to put me in my place.

When you say you are going to drown your kid in the toilet for having a mind of their own, I think touting peace and infinite love is most definitely bullshit.

One thing you are right about, Tim, is that you don't know what the people here have gone through or the paths they have tread to be where they are.
You apologized to me for being a prick, and I could give two shits.
You came onto a blogs i posted and decided you wanted to fight,.. that was your choice, hence, I don't give a shit about you saying peace and infinite love, because it is meaningless coming from you.
I will be happy to post those nice little rants you dropped on my blog if you want to take this any further.

..blaming me for your problems is just idiotic, taking your problems out on me is selfish. Crying over your temper tantrum and pining for sympathy is,.. sad.

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Bryon Tosoff

10/4/2009 3:16:06 PM ---- Updated 10/4/2009 3:16:27 PM

Old First nations proverb coming at you all, actually a buddy of mine is of indian heritage who was also high school friend said this to me and I always remember it,
"open mouth catches many flies"now this is a blog and people state things here but the principle is the same.....
Another one my dad used to say is this
"Engage Brain before opening mouth"

same difference..

First off , dont say things you dont know any bloody thing about and come at people preaching Tim, and that is what you did to Fred and quite Frankly you were way off base with your whole tone here towards him, and Sorry dont mean a thing. honestly it doesnt. Sorry is just a word....and we use it way too often and too much and way too many times.....

sometimes it is better to leave things alone

bryon.

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Leo Haszard

10/4/2009 3:56:19 PM

Hi Tim and all

I think i have followed most of this little storm most of the way across the blogasphere

without contributing a single word-----!

But often bring tempted to throw my hat in the ring.

Tim, I could just as easily get flred up when Noah started posturing and preening himself all over the pipeline but i knew he would soon run out of steam---as he has!

Bryon has his favs and will always root for them so I wouldn't take his words to heart-----just keep away from the blogs that infuriate ewe and realise some peeps have not yet experienced the highs and lows of living on the edge------ and have to manufacture their own drama-----

I know you and I and quite a few others here have REAL drama in their lives which they never asked for, and find manufactured drama rather a childish pursuit----but each to his own---we can't tell others how to relate-----live and let live!!!

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Bryon Tosoff

10/4/2009 4:11:56 PM

Ha Leo. I listened up to your tune the other day a few times so thanks for swinging by you got me going to your page now....love the vibe on that "Rattle my cage" , so that was ultimately your real reason for coming here and enticing me with your lure, i know it .hahahaha....music is the only thing that really counts around here....to me anyways.....the blogs can burn in hell.......

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Leo Haszard

10/4/2009 4:57:46 PM

heh---heh ---wise words

Bryon---it's an honour to be on the same page!

we wanted "Rattle My Cage" to sound as if it was recorded in the 1940s--- 50s era

i think we succeeded in that---at least!

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Noah Spaceship

10/4/2009 5:23:33 PM

i give you all a piece of the infinite love for my finger

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Bryon Tosoff

10/4/2009 5:50:11 PM

FRED

GREAT NAME FOR A SONG

you wanna piece of the infinite love for my finger!

i give you all a piece of the infinite love for my finger

so if you want i,t why dont you all you bastards linger

I show what I can do with the ever loving middle finger

Yah , you all think you know sumpin' show it and bring'er

HERE IS SOME INFINITE LOVE,
you all are sheep,losers and posers
HERE IS SOME INFINITE LOVE
you all are wanna be's and dozers
---------------------------------------------------------
add, modify delete and lets make a song about what Fred just said

hehehe. dont yah just love Fred...he just brings it and lays it all on the line

bryon

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Social Spit

10/4/2009 6:09:18 PM ---- Updated 10/4/2009 7:15:16 PM

I have the PLEASURE to say that I like MOST - about 99% of the people I share IAC with.

There are a couple of people, I do NOT share the same political view with... Now, for the most part that does "snot" affect our friendship.

But there are a couple of "people"- I don't know their actual identities, just that they obviously KNOW stuff about me, like the fact that I am disabled since 1994 with Major Depression, and they use that fact as a point of some kind of ATTACK... Most of the time, from Left Field, like "Where did THAT come from" - My usual response is either to point out to such a person they should fook off, but sometimes I like to have fun with it. Their attacks are a DEFLECTION of whatever the TOPIC of the post is, and how it reflects on that "persons" ISSUES, which must be massive for them to come at me with both smoking barrels and absolutely NO reason to do so. For instance, I HATE Sarah Palin, I loathe and despise her, and I posted such in a recent topic.

Well, that "person" - And I LOOSELY use that term in referring to this "reality" deprived, probably Scientology-driven buffoon, immediately brought up my disabled STATUS when I posted my beloved PHOTOSHOPPED Palin/Shotgun image - So, pointing out that I am DISABLED has something to DO with the TOPIC? With PALIN "Running in 2012 with a Shouldered SHOTGUN and a fresh WOLF-SKIN? It DIDN'T which I pointed out, and all of my responses were to that effect.

There are a few people, like Larree, we agree on most stuff, but only on a few items we disagree: That DOES NOT affect the affection I have for the guy. There are a couple of others as well, such as the famous Scott Stambaugh, who I originally also "Loathed and despised" - But I realised, Life is Too SHORT to make any beefs stick, ya know? And my only beef was that I hated the song "Girl turn yourself Loose on Me" - HAHA! As if, the fact I didn't like one particular song, really was important in in Life- It wasn't. as it turned out, I am proud of the collab I did with him, as one of my best works... I felt proud to have a hand in putting hard-rockin MUSIC underneath a song I respected.

I also had an opportunity to collab with the infamous Zeezax, and I wish she were still around, cos I'd like to finish that project.

But as far as the rest of you folks? I love reading these posts, some of them just everyday life, problems, problems solved, and advice asked and answered. I'm glad to give answers on tech stuff, like was my job at MP3.com for a whole year, and I learned a lot about the technical aspects of taking a WAV file and making THE BEST MP3 file. The Artists here I like, I've saved their High Quality MP3s to my hard drive and the CD's I have burnt have the same great Audio Quality as my Store-Bought CDs. My Phone has almost 2 GB of the best of the best from IAC, and not just IAC but other places, and when I play the songs as I drive, I feel GOOD and it always lifts up my day no matter how shitty a day starts, all I gotta do is listen to those amazing tunes and I feel much better.

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10/4/2009 7:04:15 PM

Hey TF,

I'm new here and have posted only once. I have to say that I am overly sensitive too. I think the majority of artists are sensitive. No matter what their outer, or shall we say blogger, personas portray. Just shrug off the negative and keep going. Look at all the comments you've received on this topic alone! It's mostly positive and encouraging. PEACE!

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Social Spit

10/4/2009 7:19:06 PM

DE:

I see you have a photo of a bloke playing a BASS on your page, you have any music of your own? Let's hear it if you got it.

Looking through your station, you got good taste, so let's hear it!

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HunkaFunk

10/4/2009 10:27:13 PM ---- Updated 10/4/2009 10:45:07 PM

You all are great. The plethora of positive thought, and sensibilities is overwhelming. My conduct has been hypocritical (Bryon-o.k.?), and my apologies for my lecturing, and preachiness, WERE, AND ARE sincere. I am suprised that I said something so knee-jerk and surly, that many are pissed off at me.

Such is my life. I've always been picked on by bullies, and when I was younger, I always kicked their ass. I was beaten ruthlessly as a child, and have always carried a huge chip on my shoulder! That is MY problem, and no one elses. I have battled with my temper all my life (I am 52). The 20 years I spent as a Jehovah's Witness, helped me some. My Buddhist upbringing as a child, helped some, and being loved by my sweet, dear (yet very ill) wife Michele, has helped.

But I am still damaged goods, and I'm sure it comes out in some of my music. The last year has been the most trying year of my life, and I am a bit shaken, and unstable. At least I know this, and if I've made enemies because I blogged on a bad day...so be it. I will apologize when I wrong another. If some want to call bullshit, that is their problem.

I am going to continue to blog. I will try to blog nice with others. I WILL stay true to my rugged path of self improvement, and continue to believe in the real possibility of true 'Love and infinite Peace'. And, if others cannot forgive me when I fail...I know God will, so I will take it up in prayer.

TF

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HunkaFunk

10/5/2009 12:01:48 AM ---- Updated 10/5/2009 12:17:56 AM

@Fred
Fair enough, post away...I'll take it like a man. I don't blame you for my problems. Don't flatter youself! I've obviously inadvertantly touch a soft spot with you. If I could heal the wound, I would. But I think you want it to fester, and ferment into some gangrenous blob of hate, bigger than all of us. I didn't mean to desrespect you, and your ideas...but I did. So I'm here to take it back. It's not bullshit for you to state that you don't really care what others think. You are a stone, weathered by the pounding waves of adversity, and don't give half a shit about Love and infinite Peace...It's true, I believe you. I never should have called you a...a....liar!!!! Not caring about anything, doesn't take away our responsibility to love our fellow man.

There are two kinds of people in this world. The ones who love righteousness, and those that don't. It is prophetic in the Bible Matthew 24:12 "and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will cool off", and Matthew 25:32 "And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepard ,separates the sheep from the goats, and he will put the sheep on his right, and the goats on his left.

Then the King will say to those on his right "come you who have been blessed by the father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. For I became hungry, and you gave me something to eat, I got thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you received me with hospitality, naked and you clothed me. When I fell sick, you looked after me.I was in prison, and you came to me.

Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words "Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you?, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? When did we see you naked, and clothe you? When did we see you a stranger, and accept you with hospitality?, when did we see you sick, or in prison? and in reply, the king will say to them Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to the least of these, my brothers, you did it to me....The goats, on the other hand...don't give half a shit about Love and infinite Peace.....I wonder what Jesus said to them...have to read it for yourself.

TF

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Noah Spaceship

10/5/2009 12:24:25 AM

i just threw up in my mouth a little

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Noah Spaceship

10/5/2009 1:00:31 AM

now that you mention it, i remember something about a friends episode. i, of course remember the quote most famously from dodgeball. I think the fact that it made most of the movie teasers and trailers prob lent to the whole origination debate.

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HunkaFunk

10/5/2009 8:16:09 AM

@fred

Don't forget to swallow.

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HunkaFunk

10/5/2009 11:24:26 PM

@DE

Thank you man, for helping feel some kinship with another sensitive soul. You are so right, the vast majority of people posting here are positive.....it feels good!
Love and infinite Peace,
Tim Franklin

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HunkaFunk

10/5/2009 11:30:57 PM

@ Steve April,

Thanks for plugging my song "Surfin' the wave", and liking it! This is what artists do when they blog, they share! Thank you for listening!

TF

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HunkaFunk

10/6/2009 12:07:48 AM ---- Updated 10/6/2009 7:50:44 AM

Friendly Freddy TJ Franklin 2009

Freddy's ready for anykind of fight, Freddy does it faithfully, always full of might
Freddy's finding his true identity, giving half a shit regarding you ,and him, and ME
Freddy's finger pokes me, pokes me in the eye, freddy's pissed because I blogged, and maybe said he lied,
I didn't really mean it, those goofy things I said, but freddy has them ringing, deep inside his head.
He's not letting go, saying only NO, festering the negative, and wrecking someone's flow.
Let's be friends with Freddy, and maybe then he'll see, the truth inside our hearts, and all that we can be, and if he snubs our efforts, we can not give up, it's true
Cause Freddy could be me, and maybe even you..

Let's embrace the Freddy's here, and open up the door, try for peace, and love and joy, and fight again...no more!

TF

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10/6/2009 1:14:42 AM ---- Updated 10/6/2009 1:26:57 AM

hey hunkajunk, I just saw that incredible cheapshot you took at Jilly (who's never spoken an unkind word towards you) on Ray's blog and man are you a total hypocrite, end of story.

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HunkaFunk

10/6/2009 7:37:57 AM

???????????????

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HunkaFunk

10/6/2009 8:23:56 AM ---- Updated 10/6/2009 8:56:43 AM

Scott,

I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE. And it's not the end of the story just because you proclaim it so! If I took a cheap shot at Jilly, i am totally unaware of it!!!!!! That does not make me a hypocrite. Perhaps you are just being pugnacious, just for the sake of a juicy argument. You know NOTHING about me, my convictions, my life, and my motives....so back off!

TF

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HunkaFunk

10/6/2009 8:36:17 AM

It is a common fallacy (see List of fallacies) to—in an ad hominem attack—accuse someone of being a hypocrite in an attempt to invalidate their argument. In other words, just because someone is a hypocrite, that does not make them wrong.
It is also common for children to employ this type of ad hominem attack against their parents. For example, children may accuse their parents of hypocrisy if the parent admonishes them for using drugs or smoking, or warning them of the dangers of such activities, if the parent used them in the past.
Notwithstanding, while hypocrisy does not refute truth, it is valid to hold that hypocrisy can place truth within a given context.
A medical board that consists of smokers who refuse to hire a medical candidate on the grounds that the candidate is a smoker is guilty of inconsistent norms, but not necessarily hypocrisy. In this case a norm has been established that smokers can become doctors.
For example, the fact that a doctor smokes doesn't make that doctor wrong when they advise a patient that smoking is dangerous. Also, a doctor who truly believes smoking is dangerous yet smokes is not a hypocrite simply for practicing dangerous behavior. Instead, to accurately label as hypocrite a smoking doctor who advises patients that smoking is dangerous, the doctor would have to actually believe smoking is not dangerous.

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Noah Spaceship

10/6/2009 2:07:00 PM

this thread is a gem

nTp 4life!!
woooH!

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