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12/26/2008 8:47:16 PM
Christmas goes too long these days

12/3/2008 7:56:15 AM
Anybody see Banana around?

12/3/2008 7:56:15 AM

Anybody see Banana around?
Let me know if so, he is MIA.

12/3/2008 7:27:36 PM

At the sake of receiving your wrath grapes, I believe banana slipped out.

12/3/2008 10:39:20 PM

I haven't seen him either, Grapy. Usually with him it's girl troubles, you know how he is.

12/3/2008 10:41:44 PM

Nobody's seen me either, I bet I'm in the same place as Banana do ya think? Hang on, I am Banana. Oh no I'm not but I could be. Did you know a banana is not a fruit it's an erb.

12/3/2008 10:43:28 PM

Is Banana's real name Herb?

12/3/2008 10:46:29 PM

I was loving this thing often like being naughty but nice like gateaux. I ate 2 already today and have pain, maybe I ate IAC Banana. LOL

12/3/2008 10:48:01 PM

You ate 2 cakes? Or do you mean cupcakes? You're cute, by the way.

12/3/2008 10:49:57 PM

I wish I was missed so much. I've been away so long and I choose to come back on this thread, I should get a life. Nothing seems to have changed too much around here except where is Hugo?

12/3/2008 10:52:42 PM

This isn't a very good topic.

12/3/2008 10:56:39 PM ---- Updated 12/3/2008 10:58:08 PM

Amanda, I empathise with you, no-one misses me but then again no-one ever respons to my threads so I guess I'm not funny or mean like Banana etc. Or is it racial discimination (not serious). True, this thread is as good as most threads up there lately, it's hard to get attention unless you're nasty, controversial or stupid.

12/3/2008 11:00:27 PM

The best approach is to be nasty, controversial, AND stupid, along with a certain amount of trendy chutzpah.

12/3/2008 11:05:02 PM

Hey Amanda, it's sure nice to see your face again and what a coincidence that the day I decide to check back you decided too. This must be a Canadian thing, hey where's Deb, what a threesome. Banana and Hugh missing a-ha bells are ringing now. I might check to see if the music has improved now and if I got any friends left. I liked that Phlegm guy but he's off somewhere too. See ya girl.

12/3/2008 11:07:20 PM

Well ... I miss you all when you are not here ... or when I am not here ....

and whenever I am here, I read ALL your blogs ... and I enjoy them all too ... sometimes I'm bad and don't comment ... I know I should not be bad ... but sometimes I know I am ... On the other front I comment on a lot of blogs and sometimes wonder if that doesn't make me appear to be over bearing or "looking" for attention ... so is that being bad ? ... Might be ... could be ... I don't know when to talk ... or when to shut up ... I'm bad ....
Did I mention I miss you all when you are not here ?

12/3/2008 11:43:04 PM

The subject of missing people reminds me of that old hit song where the guy kept singing "I'm not missing you at all". What a douchebag.

12/4/2008 1:54:48 AM

It's nice to be loved, even if by some highly questionable individuals.

12/4/2008 8:07:18 AM

Some peeps can't take a hint, I'll wager.

12/4/2008 11:57:48 AM

This thread got 17 posts so far. and will probably get many more. The average amount of posts commenting about a new song is one, sometimes zero. Kinda makes ya wonder.

12/4/2008 12:42:46 PM

Most posts here announcing new songs are really boring. The only way I'd listen under those circumstances is if it were an artist I really love. Anybody who posts "I have a new song" doesn't seem to even be interested in his or her own blog, why should others be?

That's just my opinion though.

12/4/2008 1:24:45 PM

"This thread got 17 posts so far. and will probably get many more. The average amount of posts commenting about a new song is one, sometimes zero. Kinda makes ya wonder."

Richard, haha no shit!

Banana this thread isn't exactly riviting.

12/4/2008 1:30:33 PM

True but it's not asking for 4 minutes of your time either.

12/4/2008 1:36:41 PM

------mmm

How long does a banana live-----like exist!

shouldn't you be turning brownish black----aaargh!

12/4/2008 1:49:25 PM

I guess it's about posting creatively about a new song. I tried it in the form of a musical challenge but didn't get much response.

IDK maybe people here are getting tired of my shit...

12/5/2008 4:17:28 AM

I fed Banana to my mother. He's all cut up on her cereal as we speak.

12/5/2008 6:21:01 AM

"I guess it's about posting creatively about a new song. I tried it in the form of a musical challenge but didn't get much response."

Yes simple, "I got a new song" threads don't always work, in in terms of sparking a discussion, but I bet the songs still get more listens because of them.

"IDK maybe people here are getting tired of my shit... "

Not me :-)

12/5/2008 6:24:41 AM

Bananafishü.

12/5/2008 8:43:15 AM

Banana -

-If you only listen to artists that you love, you will never discover a new artist.
You might find that an artist you don't love may win you over if you give them a chance.

No one is asking you for four minutes of your time. Most people can tell if they like
a song after 30 seconds and can turn the song off after that amount of time if they wish. Just typing up a link to a song and presenting it shows that someone cares about their blog and all the work they put into the song shows they care. The only non-caring people are the ones who ignore all song posts regardless of whether they are clever or straight forward. Only listening to artists you love is not very adventurous, is it?

I try to listen to almost every song posted and make a comment. Usually there are only one or two on the blogs at any given time and fortunately I have a long attention span. I don't care how the artitst presents the song on the blog. I don't respond to hype, I respond to the song. Writing clever blurbs about the song doesn't pull people in if they agree with you that (a)you should only listen to artists you love and (b)your time is too precious to give an artist 30 seconds to see if he or she has a song you might like to listen to further. The problem is a lack of mutual support and a lack of generosity, not the way new songs are presented on blogs. Don't blame the artists if people on a music site are not primarily interested in music.

12/5/2008 9:23:36 AM

You misread me, was that on purpose?

I'm not interested in artists whose presentation is lackadaisical. Listen to my new song. No.

You presume a lot. I listen to a lot of new acts here but if they're promoting they need to be interesting in their promotions for me to take the trouble. You're trying to tell listeners how they should decide what to listen to and pointing fingers. In my opinion this mutual support thing can go too far, it's ok for artists to support one another but there's a lot of backscratching. There's always some people trying to pass themselves off as benevolent community supporters when really they just want the reciprocity that this brings. This idea some artists seem to have that the only music here worth paying attention to is the songs by active community members is crazy.

12/5/2008 11:28:47 AM

"This idea some artists seem to have that the only music here worth paying attention to is the songs by active community members is crazy"

Are you misreading ME on purpose? I never said the only music here worth.paying attention to is the songs by active communtiy members

What would I gain from misreading YOU on purpose? I'm just expressing my honest interpretation of your words. All words are open to various interpretation and I could be misinterpetating your words but certainly not on purpose. It's just my view on what you've said. You said you only listen to artists you love. In your first post you did not say you listen to a lot of new artists as you are now saying. You said that 4 minutes was a big sacrifice for you. I'm not presuming anything. I'm just reading your words but I could be misreading them although not on purpose as you suggest. There's a certain amount of arrogance that you project
and you have the right to do that. Arrogance is not a crime but I have the tight to be turned off by it.

Your response to my post makes some good points but you are the one presuming a lot when you talk about "backscratching" and "reciprocity" and I'm not trying to tell anybody what to listen to. I'm simply making an observation that there is a lack of support in general and that there is too much bullshitting about nonsense and not enough about the merits of the music made here. Anyone can do anything they want but I don't have to like it, do I?

I'm not saying "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine". I'm saying that is wrong to poison the atmosphere with comments aimed at deterring or discouraging people from commenting on songs as if it implies that you are returning a favor or have some wrong motive in doing so.

"listen to my song. No." OK I can understand that. But I've seen far more effort put into song promotion on the blogs and it still falls on deaf ears.

But I do agree with you that it doesn't hurt to promote songs in more interesting ways than just saying "listen to my song". I'll concede to you on that point.

I remember when Jeff gave some good reasons why people should listen to his song about his mother and very few people did, so go figure.

Ignoring most song posts is what is lackadaisical. Taking a moment to check out more song posts shows support. (and the support does not have to reciprocal)
But if there's no support at all, why are we here? Each of us has the right to answer that question as we see fit. You're here for your reasons, I'm here for mine. I don't consider myself to be a benevolent community supporter expecting favors to be returned. I just enjoy being generous with my time and my praise when I see fit and not trying to discourage others from doing the same. Am I a community supporter? I plead guilty to that.

12/5/2008 2:16:31 PM

Really it comes down to listener enthusiasm. I like short simple song posts in the fact that they don't go on and on. How hard is it to listen to a song? You have to click the mouse button what, once maybe two times?

It might be safe to say that if there were more listeners here actively seeking new music, and not just from artists they know but from everybody, we wouldn't be having this conversation to begin with.

It's a group effort.

"Ignoring most song posts is what is lackadaisical."

Agreed Richard. It's about the song, not the post IMO.

12/5/2008 2:24:02 PM

The customer is always right. You don't get to tell the listener why they're wrong for not listening to you. Coming on this blog to whine about the fact that your promo posts aren't attracting a crowd is misdirected, as an artist you have to cope with the world as it is, not as you would hope it to be.

12/5/2008 3:19:57 PM

I don't sell my songs here so I don't have to worry about "customers". I'm not whining about people not listening to my songs as I have great stats and have all my 30 songs on over 122 radio stations. I've got several songs in the top 50, top 25 and top 10 in mulitple genres so one person not listening isn't going to affect me. I was speaking on behalf of artists in general who don't want to kiss "customer's" butts
in order to get praise. You either listen or you don't. I don't give a damn. And no one needs to tell me "how the world really is" or presume how I wish it to be. In my world I don't need to hide behind an alias to express my opinions. Case closed.

12/5/2008 3:29:38 PM

I'm not hiding. My name is actually The Perfect Banana. I hate my parents for doing that to me. I mean, at least they could've called me Chiquita or something, this name makes me look smug.

12/5/2008 4:29:06 PM

Hey Banana, why is it that whenever someone comes on a thread and posts an alternate opinion to yours, you go into attack mode and start criticizing and scolding? You're so condescending sometimes. Then when they make justifiable points that you can't really argue reasonably, you ignore them from that point or change the subject with some light hearted humor. QP did the same thing to me on that quality thread the other day.

Is it a control issue for you? This way you're always the winner in your mind or what? I'm really not trying to argue, I'm just asking an honest question, and I'm curious to see if you can give me a straight up answer without being a smartass or a know-it-all.

Think about it first before you start going on about all the things I should learn or do in order to be a sensible individual.

12/5/2008 4:33:58 PM

Fairtrade?

12/5/2008 5:25:32 PM

Jesse I think the same of you and others, that you are control freaks. You engage in discussions with me and others here, we talk about the topic, then the second the discussion isn't going as you hoped, you come out with an attack that I'm using a screen name. It's like suddenly you can't handle the subject content and you must resort to discrediting the voice. Listen if in this era you can't handle the fact that there are many pseudonoms on the net (which is ridiculuous if you ask me, it's like being bothered if it rains outside saying it shouldn't be raining today), don't respond to me in discussions at all. It's ignorant for Richard to have an interchange with me and then when I'm not agreeing with him say well you aren't using your artist name, end of story.

I think in many cases I am providing a service by stating things here that others may not speak, another point of view. Notice that I didn't start a thread telling any of you not to post your promo threads, I only attempted to give you an answer from one vantage point as to why they're not as effective as you hope they will be.

12/5/2008 5:58:44 PM

"I think in many cases I am providing a service by stating things here that others may not speak, another point of view."

Wow that's the biggest bullshit Line I have heard in awhile.

The pipelines' interest in music is far down the list, the fact that it is on an independent Music site seems lost at times. This thread gets hits, when those about new songs are ignored. It does not matter if the posts introducing a new song is creative, interesting, funny, sad...for the most part they slide down the pipeline without a sniff. Even new song posts by active members on the pipeline. I would think people would be here for music first, and then branch out into other topics to keep the pipeline interesting.and fresh..as it is Music seems to be the least interesting to most.

Richard brought up a song of mine, I posted a blog about it....It got a few responses, but for the most part it was ignored. Its a little disheartening...especially with the time I have invested on this site. I am not saying the song is good, but it is worth a listen and perhaps a comment.

Some good points were made on this thread...I am just agreeing with a few, I have no sour grapes, I am just bringing up an example.

If the "Perfect Banana" wants to keep "Providing a service" great, I think at times he/she/It is interesting. However, My first and main reason for being here is the music. To listen to others, meet a few like minded talented individuals, and share my music. Additional topics, although interesting and important in there own way, are incidental.

Just posting an opinion...It's all I have.

Peace.

Jeff

12/5/2008 6:11:56 PM ---- Updated 12/5/2008 7:13:36 PM

Banana your response was pretty elusive. Again you're defending the need to post anonymously, which had nothing to do with what I asked you. Then you accused me of not being able to cope with all the pseudonyms on the net, your usual attack standard. So you've successfully dodged the question which is exactly what I thought you'd do. I guess that makes you predictable.

I will admit at times I have control issues, which is something I'm working on as an individual... I'm trying to be a better person.

You on the other hand, strike me as someone who would never admit any fault because you are afterall, in your mind, "perfect" and seem to be oblivious to the fact that you're just a human being like the rest of us with all kinds impurities.

Enough games, I'm not going to pretend like I'm actually talking to a banana. That's stupid.

BTW I'm now convinced that you and The Quality Police are the same person because you both misspelled "pseudonyms" the same way.

12/5/2008 7:56:39 PM

I liked his spelling, I suspect it's French. :D

I admit my faults, but they are not relevant to the topics we're discussing. No I wasn't talking about a need to post anonymously, it's a choice.

I don't think my response was elusive. How is it that people here carry on discussions with me but then when I don't relent to their argument it comes back to well I don't know what your artist name is so you're a bad man.

))))))))))))))))))))))))

I do provide a service, Jeff. If I hadn't offered my point of view there, the last thing said would've been Scotti crying that this blog gets more attention than his new song blogs. This pipeline isn't that simple despite those who would prefer it was just a dozen artists posting their songs and boosting each other.

12/5/2008 8:13:53 PM

I think My post Covered more ground then that, but..whatever. I pointed out that the pipeline should be interesting and expand beyond music.....unfortunately the music is just cursory to many.... I type to deaf ears :)

12/5/2008 8:22:31 PM

Yes I know your post covered more ground.

I think we should maybe explore alternate ways of getting the music discussed here that are more unique and promote wider participation. New paradigms.

As I said most of the indies promoting their songs don't seem to captivate my interest.

12/5/2008 8:34:50 PM ---- Updated 12/5/2008 8:36:59 PM

"I don't think my response was elusive."

Haha, oh banana. I love it that you'd argue that point like I would actually expect you to agree with me, lol. :) You didn't think so? Really? I'm shocked! :)

"How is it that people here carry on discussions with me but then when I don't relent to their argument it comes back to well I don't know what your artist name is so you're a bad man."

Haha, I don't know banana that's a good question. :)

"As I said most of the indies promoting their songs don't seem to captivate my interest."

On a serious note, why not? What's lacking in your opinion? You're an artist, right? Do you post new blogs about songs? And if so, do you think they're different than everyone elses and do you think they're grabbing anybodies attention because of it?

12/5/2008 9:13:30 PM ---- Updated 12/5/2008 9:15:31 PM

There is nothing I can write here that will make people listen to my songs. They first have to hear one and like it....., and if I post that I have a new song they may check it out because of what they already heard. Or, they may take an interest because they know who I am because I post on these blogs. As for listening because of some creative way to introduce a new song, I don't see that happening. Even if it does, the music will then need to speak or it does not matter how creative the next post is introducing a song...there will be no interest because there is no "quality" :) Anyway I am speaking in circles, I know we had this discussion some time ago.

I am just a Singer Songwriter... If people like my music, they might want to hear new songs..If not they will pass by ...simple as that. If they don't like my music, that;s cool...but sometimes I think its a lack of listening that is the problem...no more no less.

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