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Madame Mao
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8/15/2010 8:15:05 AM
Drum machine tip of the day
Reposted from Kurtley Covers page
The Art of the Drum Machine, by Kurt Kurtley
excerpt: "...and I've found you can just set it on an 8 bar loop and forget it. No one will notice."
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Phlegm
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8/15/2010 8:19:39 AM
hmmmm... I think another musician might "notice"....
ANALOG is the sweetest way to do DRUMS.
We just got a NEW Drummer, and she's a killa
no artful drum machine could beat her.
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Madame Mao
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8/15/2010 8:24:56 AM
hahaha - that's the point !
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Bryon Tosoff
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8/15/2010 9:46:46 AM
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I dont drum, but I tickle ivory, she is my instrument. but I will look into drum machine, that could help me and ivory.
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HunkaFunk
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8/15/2010 10:43:53 AM
drum machines don't tell their girlfriend to **ck off on stage, or show up late to the gig, or take twice as long as it should take to tear down after a gig...yet with all the adversity bands put up with from drummers...you gotta love them!!! It's the bassist in me speaking now!
And, nothing's cooler than a girl drummer...I know, I'm married to one!
TF
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Tom O'Brien
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8/15/2010 12:22:01 PM
Drum machines have gotten pretty darned sophisticated, but even if you can't tell the difference in a recording, a machine can't be a band mate. There's something magical about the way that real musicians interact - on stage and off. A machine can't do that. A machine might be able to get away with a loop, but with a drummer, every beat is a new adventure - he/she can appreciate what he's doing in the context of the music.
Playing with real musicians is like making musical love. Playing with a machine is more like masturbation. You can still enjoy it, but there's no afterglow.
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Conversation Suicide
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8/16/2010 2:32:36 AM
HA!
funny, and cool comparrison.....couldn't have said it better myself.
Cheers to Female Drummers, by the by.
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Bryon Tosoff
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8/16/2010 11:42:17 AM
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I just used my dryer machine as a drum Machine. I threw some running shoes, cow bells and rocks in there and got an amazing cool rhythm out of it, then played along with it, I am blown away how incredible it sounds,I think I discovered something here and going to take it to my next performance and do a live gig with it as a twosome. should be fun!!!
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Hop On Pop
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8/16/2010 11:46:59 AM
Drum machines are just a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. In some instances, the sound they create is, perhaps, even more-appropriate than that created by a real, human drummer.
So, remember, drum machines are just tools.
And, from my experience, so are most drummers.
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Bryon Tosoff
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8/16/2010 12:01:59 PM
Todd said,
Snipped "So, remember, drum machines are just tools.
And, from my experience, so are most drummers."
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and my Todd, oh you are going to get some good ones from this
hahaha
good one man
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Chris Hance
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8/16/2010 1:32:52 PM
bedum bedum bedum betish, xxx
bededbeh bededbeh bededbeh boom!
good to jam along with, great if you can, or can be bothered to program them to your track,
I'd prefer to have a real kit if I had space no neighbors, and; as long as one doesnt use presets on commercial releases, ?
My own beats on the kit are cool;. but I dont have the fluency to play drums in a real band,
I did some stuff, Shoot The Drummer, and Gator Swamp Terrorists, a couple of tracks or one was well recieved...
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Dream Secret
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8/18/2010 9:41:37 AM
Drum machines have there place. Sometimes all that is required is a basic beat which some drummers feel is 'beneath them.'
It also depends on what style of music one is doing.
I find them interesting yet a bit rigid time-wise. There's no "push & pull" to the rythmn like when playing with a real human drummer.
They can be alot of fun! I have an really old ELI Compurythmn 7030 that I use with my old analog synth. That's a blast! In addition to that I have an Alesis SR-16 which sounds good for demos & working out stuff.
Hey.. machines will never replace humans-however they are fabulous [tools] if used as such. That is until they become 'self-aware' and start knocking on doors looking for Sarah Connor.
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Pulse Eternal
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8/19/2010 6:02:36 AM
Here's a few pics of my drum machine. This one is played by a human..... me.


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Richard Scotti
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8/19/2010 8:04:16 AM
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The invention of the drum machine was was a very important event in the history of music creation especially as a catalyst for the onset of the "one person band" singer-songwriter who just wanted the inspiration and convenience of a steady beat in his or her living room when having a band anytime you felt inspired was not always an option. The machines were immensely helpful in learning how to write to different beats in different genres. They were certainly more fun than metronomes or click tracks!
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Jesse Adams
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8/19/2010 4:27:12 PM
Everybody knows there is no substitute for a real drummer. Some of us don't have the luxury or equipment to properly record good sounding drums, so we make do with what we've got. Personally, I'd rather use a nicely recorded drum machine as opposed to a crapily recorded real kit. However, with today's sample sets and programming capabilities, you can get pretty damn close when done correctly. Observe...
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Richard Scotti
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8/20/2010 7:25:53 AM
Nice to see you back, Jesse. As usual you've made some good points. That track was fun to listen to and does show the power of creative technique. I hope you stick around!
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