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Father Time
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11/20/2016 8:46:15 AM
When did you first know that you were cool?
:)
oh there was this one song in particular that when I finished the demo it occurred to me, dude, you may just be the future of rock there.
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Larree
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11/20/2016 9:20:59 AM
The day my neighbor called the police on me because my electric guitar was too loud.
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11/20/2016 9:23:35 AM
Well of course, I knew I was cool long before I got into music ;) but if we're talking music making I'd say it was when I sold my first EP to a stranger, unfortunately that was also the last thing I ever sold and now I don't even try.
I think the CD launch for Coloured vinyl was quite a night, performing all those songs gave us some kudos, I felt like a star for an hour.
Now, I just love going back through my voluminous music files and finding stuff I'd forgotten about, playing it and thinking "Wow you really were cool back then" And the best thing is I'm getting cooler every day.
Songs that convinced me would probably be "I realised" "Transient Butterfly" and some of the orchestral music I wrote - but I'm sure others would disagree :)
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Father Time
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11/20/2016 10:19:17 AM
You have a lot of great ones, more than anyone could remember. Some of the Coloured Vinyl songs stand up pretty well today, too.
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Lars Mars
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11/20/2016 10:32:48 AM
I'm not.. still too much a nerd.
But maybe someday.
Glenn
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Bryon Tosoff
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11/20/2016 10:42:29 AM
me, cool, ha. it never happened.and I never tried to be cool, i guess some are fortunate enough to have a bearing and deportment and carried themselves with confidence i was an awkward person an outsider. never had a close group I belonged to. i was like uncool. with weird hair that got mussed up and people would come up and rustle their hands through it. so for that, one of my nick names was salad.tossed salad the other i cant mention here as i got so dark in summer with a tan that people call out ####, i got named a four letter word as you can see. So i got teased, but took it. Cool. that the F##k is Cool anyways , and who bloody cares.
now mint is cool. so for you cool cats and kittens or supposeds we had a name for the cool ones, us outsiders called the cool insiders and such as Hersheys. why dont know. maybe they looked so cool with their coifed hair and upscale clothes and groovy looks they were liked so much by the girls they called them hershey bars. yum
Cool Who cares. by the time you reach our age, you are anything but cool. haha
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Verity
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11/20/2016 11:03:10 AM
"Cool" is so subjective but I think ALL indie artists are cool when they don't have to follow trends, when they're free thinking and open minded, when they're not bothered by criticism. Coolness starts with having confidence in being yourself and actually liking yourself despite all your foibles. Yeah, I'm cool!
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Bryon Tosoff
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11/20/2016 11:17:00 AM
oh i like myself Verity dont get me wrong there, and I do have confidence verity. i dont doubt myself one bit, I am a pretty accomplished individual with success in more then one area, music is one part of who i am not that only thing. so i considered myself quite balanced. I am not conceited, at least i hope i am not, or think myself better then anyone else. which some of the cool cats in my time IMO were. so that is my opinion. Cool to me would someone who is one who is able to be respecting others and being considerate.
But yes, i guess what makes us different and cool, is being here. it is a pretty small segment of the music world we participate in here at this tiny place, we dont stand up and wave our flag as we are better or greater then other organizations, although maybe we are, or try to be, so in reality we are the outsiders in an over uber cool world of minions and copy cats of the entertainment sector, so for that reason i consider us way different so therefore i would say we are cool.
cheers and hallucinations
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Larree
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11/20/2016 1:18:51 PM
"cheers and hallucinations"
HAHAHA, I'm stealing that one! HAHAHAHAHA!
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Psyche's Muse
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11/20/2016 2:00:12 PM
Cool?
During Sophomore year I was sitting in the high school gym at a dance, lights were off. My buddy comes and sits behind me and I notice that he is acting strangely. “What’s the matter, man?” I say. He glares at me, “NOTHING is WRONG!”. Out of concern I would look back at him and wonder what was wrong. He’d glare at me and say, “ARE YOU COOL DUDE?!!!” To which I’d respond, “I’m not mad, if that’s what you mean”. “ARE YOU COOOL?!!”...”Ugh, no. As a matter of fact, it feels rather WARM in here” was my reply. I was getting confused and he was getting more and more paranoid. As these things were about to get out of hand another friend of mine(Junior Classman) came and sat beside him. My freaked out friend looked at him and asked, “He’s not COOL! Is he?!!” to which the elder one replied, “Yes! Yes... He is cool. I promise you, man. He’s COOL!” and then looked at me as if to say “Leave it alone. Trust me. You are cool”. My paranoid friend relaxed, mumbled something, and left. It wasn’t until the following year, when I was a Junior in high school that I discovered what marijuana was. I didn’t even know such a thing existed before that. That was the same year I took my first drink of alcohol. That was when I started smoking cigarettes. I wasn’t “COOL” before any of that took place either. Apparently, and unbeknownst to me, being “Cool” meant that you smoked pot. (back in 1976).
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Stoneman
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11/20/2016 6:38:20 PM
The first time someone asked me for my autograph. I thought, damn! you want my autograph? Shit! I have arrived. It happened at a talent competition back in 1968. I won! and, I felt very cool! Very true about the pot thing though. That is what we always asked before we would fire up if someone we didn't know was around. The cool ones would respond with a "Yeah, fire it up man". Back in the day, all the cool people smoked herb. It was just one of the things cool people did. They smoked herb, drove low ride cars, had their hair conked and wore all the latest clothes. For those of you who don't know what Conk is, it is a lye based conditioner that straightened the hair of Black men and often turned it a reddish color. As reference see the Malcom X movie.
Much Respect,
Stoneman
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11/21/2016 7:45:38 AM
Oh Good Heavens.
When did we first know we're cool?
Ten minutes ago when we did a Lars Mars record.
Served fair reminder to even John Lennon and George Harrison,
"Look, here, is what a fantastically great song, is, now pay attention, and make more."
I have an excuse, I ain't learned yet. Ha!
Cool, well it's a couple of things isn't it, no I'm not getting verbose, if I can help it.
Nice to see you by the way.
So... well there's subjective cool, and you're asking for trouble
if you anything but appreciate that as it comes and goes,
because 'cool' to other people, again, comes and goes...
It's being 'cool' to yourself that really makes a difference.
And to me, being 'cool' personally speaking, involves being fair and kind
to people, treating them, no matter who they are, as I would like
to be treated myself. And, being courageously honest, no matter what.
Glenn, look at you, Mate.
You're cool and you don't even know it.
Seriously, if I'd written that song that you wrote,
I'd be bangin on a big bass drum walkin' down
the street like a good little Energizer Bunny proper.
You're cool. You're all, all of you, terribly fantastically cool.
There are many milestones to 'cool'...
most of them personal, some are subjectively cool,
seem cool to others, but not so much to you,
John Lennon and his MBE for instance....
(he now thinks he should have kept it, but it doesn't matter
'cause Yoko'd have it anyway, and they don't talk a whole lot now)
So,
reminding myself, my purpose on Earth is
Inspiration Like Blazing Blue Bojangles...
Remember This, My Friends:
"Cool"
exists mostly,
in the Here and Now.
Memories are cool. Always.
But the coolest cool can ever be,
takes place, in the Here and Now.
Here and Now
Here and Now...
etc...
are we doing the dance naked 'round the trees thing yet?
Well, I'm sorry to be so forward about it,
that does strike me as terribly fantastically cool indeed.
Oh, Stone, I hope you don't mind if I roll mine...
I tried the vape thing, I was not as impressed as I had hoped,
and immediately rolled some up instead. Old School Cool.
There we are. Who wants more wine?
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Andy Broad
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11/21/2016 9:17:30 AM
When my mother grumbled at me for playing that new Lightnin Hopkins record I'd just bought for the 4th time in a row, but it was actually me playing the guitar...
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Andy Broad
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11/21/2016 9:26:01 AM
And here is a blues in the style of Mr Hopkins that I uploaded some while ago:
Postcard Blues
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Hop On Pop
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11/21/2016 10:12:08 AM
I don't know that I ever have been cool.
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Raandy
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11/21/2016 11:06:14 AM
None of you have ever been.
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Larree
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11/21/2016 11:14:35 AM
Todd, you are a Cubs fan! It does not get cooler than that, my friend! You ARE cool!
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Hop On Pop
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11/21/2016 11:16:17 AM
If that were all it took to be cool, Larree, there are about a million drunken frat boys on the North Side of Chicago, who are all cool.
Nah. I don't think so.
:-s
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Larree
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11/21/2016 11:26:46 AM
Well, I was just trying to help!
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Hop On Pop
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11/21/2016 11:31:50 AM
Thanks, Larree! I appreciate it.
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11/21/2016 11:32:15 AM
You still aren't getting it.
Coolness is an Epiphany not Something Bestowed.
You're as Cool as you wanna be.
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Father Time
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11/21/2016 3:49:20 PM
I disagree with that. I know people who really want to be cool but never approach it.
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11/21/2016 4:25:56 PM
Well it's not like we couldn't write a bloody book about the subject.
Just going back and forth here in a thread, and then you print it, boom, a book.
There are people who think they're cool, and maybe, there are people
who don't agree, maybe some who do...
Also, just 'cause I said it's an Epiphany doesn't mean it's an easy one to have.
If Epiphanies were easy to have, we'd all be having them more than orgasms.
I do have some conceptual view, and having said that I do,
I am also aware some may agree some may not.
For me, part of being cool, is not to give a damn if anyone thinks I'm cool or not.
I don't go out of my way to be anything I consider uncool,
because, I like anyone else in my generation, like the idea of being cool,
cool, is a lot of things,
it's being beyond reproach, it's being somewhat self directed,
and self contained...
The Beatles were soo cool, and for a great many reasons,
including that they were a largely self-contained, self-directed unit
(musically anyway, Brian had to direct them regarding their look at first)
Cool, as in 'cool' as a widely perceived thing,
well look at all the variances there are there....
Enough people say something is 'cool' it becomes upgraded
to a 'celebrity' status.
What IS Cool?
I mean, the thing itself.
Define Cool.
If it's a bestowed state, then it is a fickle thing indeed,
because the whole world can change its mind on a dime.
And there are people, who may as their modus operandi
seek to make others feel 'less cool' by playing upon their insecurities,
and that's a lot of people, really, you pay attention, see how many
people in your travels don't like someone in a good mood
and try to 'adjust' it for them. So does that mean, don't be too 'optimistic'
or you're not 'cool' enough? Cool enough for whom?
This is why I point to a state of self-owned, self-directed coolness.
If someone tells you that you're not cool,
well you have two choices, don't you.
Believe 'em or don't.
I choose to decide I'm cool, enough for my own personal need to be cool,
and, again, 'cool' is, to me, a thing I decide upon.
If I had to depend on the ever changing socially active definition of cool,
well I couldn't be bothered with that amount of bother, it changes nearly
week by week.
Cool, is a personal thing, is what I posit.
You can exist for someone else calling you cool,
but I don't see that existence as being terribly cool at all.
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Father Time
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11/21/2016 4:32:03 PM
Someone out there gets to decide who and what is cool and uincool, the question is, who? Is it someone we know or a force more mysterious?
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11/21/2016 4:48:34 PM
The Dalai Lama?
Could be.
The very thought that it could be the Dalai Lama probably pisses off China.
"noooooo!"
But, if you are to point to a known or unknown 'someone' as 'assigning coolness',
then, the closest statistic which I see as likely to BE that,
is, majority consensus, maybe, usually, sometimes, and maybe,
maybe sometimes everyone's an idiot, so 'cool' is in name only. Maybe.
Mostly, it seems to be whatever 'most of us' basically feels about something,
that is the 'socially decided upon coolness' more often than not.
It takes a lot of knowing oneself, and having developed one's own will,
to realize, that it's more important that you're cool to yourself,
that you are happy with you and what you are,
than it is, a shitload of other people thinking it.
If I had the whole thing thinking I was the coolest thing since pizza,
well that might be nice, maybe I'd sell a bunch of records,
I've always wanted to sell a bunch of records the way The Beatles used to,
so I keep trying, you know,
to come up with 'cool' songs, songs that can do all that. Like they did.
And made look easy.
To where, even they themselves, can barely begin to make a guess
at what 'it' was they had, but I digress.
John makes a point,
"you may have been able to be cool with less wear tear and worry",
but he digresses too.
If one's pointing to something, what else is there but majority consensus?
I mean, if it was a single person,
don't you think we'd all be writing letters and ringing their phone
at all hours of the day and night.
Hello, Coolness Bestower? Hi, it's me, I've got this really great new
record that I just put out, could you please pronounce it cool.
"I'm sorry, I am. Not the person you seek is this.
You seek the Dalai Lama, reached Yoda the Jedi you have.
Easy this mistake is to make. You are cool. You are cool not. There is no try."
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