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Father Time
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6/28/2017 8:41:50 AM
Who is the best artist in the world from 2000 to 2017?
It may be this guy.
very underrated
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WWMM Michael
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6/28/2017 9:12:37 AM
Ha ha; it could very well be the guy from your link, but who knows? That is a very subjective question, sir!
Right now (since I am still riding her concert high) my nomination is Norah Jones. She was named "Jazz Artist of the 2000's" and has not slowed down since. She just took a little break to get married and have 2 babies, but I don't hold that against her. She is very entitled to that part of her life, eh? Later Scott.
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Christomir
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6/28/2017 9:28:48 AM
My nominations are Jem (see video below) and the MonaLisa Twins (no need for links here - you all know who they and what they do).
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Christomir
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6/28/2017 9:31:10 AM
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who they *are
(Sorry, the site doesn't allow me to edit my post to correct my error.)
EDIT: Yet now it allowed me to edit this one. But still no dice with the one with the embedded video. Curious. Maybe it has to do exactly with the embedding?
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Father Time
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6/28/2017 9:52:20 AM
That's it.
Well it's a nice touch that the first two respondents to this are pure listeners as in non-artist listeners (the best kind of listeners around here). It's just a sad side note that both
basically just dismiss the career indie guy's thing and name others without listening to it like they know what they would hear. They don't. But I'm not comin' down on them. The truth is, I expect absolutely no one to listen. That's the nature of my plight, our plight. That a guy could pump out melodic, lyrical songs for 17 years, all very different from one another and be just another bozo. The trouble I'm always having is accepting that this is what I am. If I was a beautiful woman, I would at least be that, but I ain't too pretty either. :)
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Christomir
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6/28/2017 12:44:33 PM
Sorry, Scott, I call them as I hear them. :)
And no, I don't call them as I *see* them - I don't care if it's a beautiful woman or not (for the record, I don't find Jem beautiful or even very pretty - appearance-wise, she is just average; I usually avoid making such assessments, because I find it rude, but here I had to, to make my point; sorry, Jem :)). All I care about is the music, and for vocalists, I happen to like female voices, along with only certain types of male voices.
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Larree
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6/28/2017 1:28:55 PM
Of all the artists I have heard since 2000 my personal favorite is jazz guitarist Mary Halvorson. Her music is definitely not for most listeners as she does employ a great deal of dissonance in her work. Here is a live recording of her octet.
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JeffH
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6/28/2017 1:37:15 PM
Yeah he's good but best... man... hard to claim anything as best.
If I had to pick someone I would say over the past two decades Radiohead would be my choice.. (note I went a little further back to include OK Computer) ;-)
Get your focus back... and do what you love to do while you still can.
But fret not...You me and every other bit of energy floating around this planet
have always been and will always be... (it must be true I wrote a song about it and it's on the internet!)
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Father Time
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6/28/2017 6:06:04 PM
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well you know, Christomir, your words there are kind of presumptuous. You call them as you hear them, well maybe you've heard, what, 2-4 of my songs. I have 200 or so online under 5 or 6 different bands, my vocals vary from falsetto to high register to low register, I have a band that is duets like Whitherward where there is a female lead vocalist for half the songs, I might have instrumentals too for all you know. and you've decisively characterized all I have put out there over the years into whatever tiny box you do.
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Larree
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6/28/2017 6:14:50 PM
Every artist is the best in the world in their own world. :D
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Larree
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6/28/2017 6:19:29 PM
FT, I have followed your work since way back in the old mp3.com days and I will say that you have been very prolific and adventurous as an artist. You take chances and you are always trying new things. You are never afraid to step into a new genre and make it yours. That fucking rocks, bro. You have created an amazing catalog of music. You don't need to worry or even think about what anyone else thinks bro. Real talk.
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Father Time
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6/28/2017 6:25:21 PM
well I don't worry about what anybody thinks but I feel a tad pigeonholed there. :)
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Bryon Tosoff
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6/28/2017 8:03:40 PM
Jets overhead, one of my listening favs of alternative groove mfeel good tune , so this gets my vote.
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Christomir
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6/28/2017 11:07:33 PM
Hey, Scott, I'm sorry you feel that way - it's not my intention to make you (or any other artist) feel that way. And I can assure you I have heard many more than just 2-4 of your songs (though, of course, nowhere near all 200 of them - that's true)... You may also rest assured that, if one day I hear a song by you that I *really* like, I won't neglect it and brush it aside. :)
Anyway, I just like what I like, and there is nothing outside the music that can influence my opinion on the actual music. My music tastes might be weird, they might be considered "shallow" and/or "childish" by many, and I might be a music layman, rather than a pro, but I am just that - a music fan, who has his own personal tastes, and I reserve my right for that. And again - I don't care how pretty or ugly the artist(s)/singer(s)/songwriter(s) is/are physically, or whether I like them as a person or not - those things have nothing to do with the music, and I don't mix them up (like many listeners tend to do). Even if one of my best friends were an artist or songwriter, I wouldn't lie to them that I like their song (let alone - somehow convince myself that I like it), if I don't really like it. I feel I would be doing everyone (including the artist) a disservice, if I told them a "white" lie like that, just for the sake of being nice. So I just prefer to be honest (or at least - I say nothing, when I don't have enough positive things to say)...
BTW, can you remind me which artist pages were the ones with female vocalists singing your songs?? I would like to explore them some more, at some point :)
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Father Time
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6/29/2017 1:33:59 AM
I didn't mean to make it seem like I'm coming down on ya there. :)
Most of those songs are on this page.
Mr. Quagmire, Moodswing Baby, and On and On are 3 songs I wrote lyrics for that I'm particularly happy with.
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Christomir
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6/29/2017 4:20:27 PM
Thanks, I bookmarked it :)
BTW (not sure if anyone cares, but I'll say it anyway), writing great lyrics is not something that can impress me, even if your name is Bob Dylan :P Those, who know me as a music fan, know that I mostly care about the music (sound) itself, first and foremost, and good lyrics can be just a bonus to me... But I don't even mind a refrain of just "na-na-na" or "la-la-la", as long as the actual music is good enough.
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Christomir
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6/29/2017 6:39:27 PM
LOL, and I just remembered something that can prove and illustrate what I just said, about songs with "no lyric" refrains:
Here, in the video below, is a song that is probably my 3rd most favorite of all time by any indie artist (behind only 2 songs by the MonaLisa Twins, obviously :P) and yet the lyrics of its refrain mostly say just "la da da da..." Of course, those that care a lot about lyrics, and dislike or completely ignore this song, using that as an excuse, probable fail (or refuse) to notice that the rest of the song actually has brilliant lyrics. But I don't care either way, because to me it is exactly the "la da da da..." refrain that is the catchiest and most infectious part of this song, musically. :D
And another example (though I won't post the video here, because I know many of you on here, including my friend Mike, don't like hip-hop music): among my Top 20 most favorite songs of all time (by all kinds of artists, not just indies) there is a Latin hip hop song with rap verses with Spanglish lyrics, and a refrain that has no lyrics at all - not even "la da da" or "na na na" - just a great instrumental sample from a classic tango tune, played on horns and everything... And it is exactly that instrumental refrain that I like the most in that song. So yeah, music is music ;)
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the intellectual
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7/1/2017 1:21:25 PM
Surely we all have examples of songs we like having nothing to do with the lyrics. but you're really missing out if you've ruled out that whole aspect of songwriting.
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Christomir
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7/2/2017 9:55:54 AM
I haven't completely ruled out that aspect; I'm just saying that good lyrics are only a bonus for me, but the lack of them doesn't diminish the quality of a great song to me.
But yeah, obviously, when the lyrics are well written and are about something meaningful, that can only enhance my opinion of a song. Check out my all-time #1 favorite song by an indie artist/band - "The Wide Wide Land" by the MonaLisa Twins (it's the first one in my Itso's Earworms playlist). It's dedicated to their late grandma, who had Alzheimer's, and the lyrics are about her. Only song to ever make me cry.
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WWMM Michael
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7/11/2017 2:04:16 PM
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Upon further review Scott, there very well could be a 8-way tie between you, Norah Jones, MonaLisa Twins, David Nyro, Richard Scotti, Bryon Tosoff, DeMonicka, and Whitherward. But it is still too early to tell. I also have earmarked the Coming of Age and Stambaugh-Wright pages for further listening. I reckon I will have to do so for Father Time and Negative Tendencies. Question though: why so many names and incarnations? The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Moody Blues, The Bee Gees, ABBA, The Beach Boys, etc. achieved international stardom by having basically just the same name for decades. So many names confuse me and bog me down; sorry.
It is really difficult for me to fairly and favorably compared anyone the past 17 to Norah Jones, a daughter of the late, great Ravi Shankar! She is the Jazz Artist of the 2000's and a 9x Grammy winner!
However my music MVP is Christomir aka Itso. Upon meeting him at IFC, he has introduced me to many artists too numerous to mention. People like The Coors, Steps, Jem, and on and on. And then coming here to IMP he is be to credited for at least 20% of my station. I have "borrowed" music from Whitherward, Tinatin, Zorba, Thought Gang, mcdaid, Hugh Hamilton, Richard Scotti, Fleet Foxes, Sean Lenox, Rachel Collis, Stacey, American Dreamers, and Gary Ritchie. That is 13 of my 37 artists. I would probably still be scrambling to get to 100 songs and my station would not have such a lofty ranking. Just want to give credit where credit is due. So a huge "shout out" to my buddy Itso!!! Just sayin'
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negative tendencies
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7/11/2017 4:51:20 PM
To answer your question, there was a different cast of characters for each.
Father Time is solo
Negative Tendencies is me, Dave Latchaw and Weapon X
Stambaugh/Wright was me and Jilly
The Coming of Age was me and Lesley
Ogopogo was me and Noah Spaceship and Brant Bodily.
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WWMM Michael
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7/12/2017 10:08:33 AM
Thanks Scott; that makes perfect sense now. Here at my new online home of IMP there is a cascade of cast of characters, and a scorecard certainly helps!
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