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8/6/2015 2:26:10 AM
Disbanding - was it good or bad for you?
I'd say most bands disband eventually and it makes me sad in a way because it's an end of a dream, people going away doing their own thing or doing nothing!
No doubt some artist come through disbandments with positive results. Maybe there is always one band member who shines, has more ambition and talent so going solo or forming a 'better' band is a good move.
Often it's just a clash of egos and opinions that causes a split - even between brothers and best friends.
Let me know if you've disbanded successfully or regretfully? What's your story?
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Hop On Pop
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8/6/2015 5:02:07 AM
Good question.
For me, I think that it was good -- creatively. It gave me the freedom to expand my sound, work a little bit outside of what I could do working only with the people actually "in" my band, and also allowed me to grow as a producer -- eliminating all the voices around me so that I could listen to only the voices in my head.
On the other hand, I miss the hell out of playing with my friends on a regular basis. Emotionally, it's hard. Also, I think that some of my songwriting inspiration has dissipated, as I don't get to go make a big noise with a bunch of people every week. That engine is not as primed as it has been in the past.
So yeah, good and bad.
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Richard Scotti
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8/6/2015 7:25:47 AM
---- Updated 8/6/2015 12:18:33 PM
I agree with Todd. It's a mixed bag of emotions. I miss the comaraderie of being in a band the way soldiers miss being with their buddies after the war. And unfortunately sometimes being in a band is like being in a war with clashing opinions and different points of view but there's no experience that is equal to it. It's the best and worst of all possible worlds. I miss it very but I'm happy being independent and pursuing my own vision totally unimpeded.
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Father Time
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8/6/2015 7:29:00 AM
Well my band Stambaugh/Wright never really broke up, we just floundered and fizzled out. :)
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Shoe City Sound
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8/6/2015 7:57:08 AM
Oh God it was traumatic! It happened a really long time ago and our guitar player (someone out there may have heard of her Thalia Zedek) went on to get signed and have a sort of career almost immediately. It was all completely over emotional and stupid and hurtful and we really never got involved in a band for any length of time again. That's OK I can laugh about it now :)
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Martin H. Samuel
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8/6/2015 2:28:30 PM
For me, it was quite frustrating and most disappointing.
The most recent disbanding was déjà vu all over again... i.e. the same old song and dance 43 years down the road and, losing the drummer meant curtains for the band.
As it was with (the original) Heatwave in 1971, so it was with The New Revolution in 2014... as the drummer, I was kicked out for being suggestive!
In this instance, I suggested we play an original song by someone (anyone) in the band... the song I had in mind, my co-write, 'Boogie On The Bayou', was never heard by the band.
The song went on to be recorded by Bad Ass Boots, 4 gals + 1 guy from the San Francisco Bay Area (Oakland, CA), and released as a digital single on 21st July 2014.
Since it's release, Max Perry... world-renowned choreographer and the Godfather of line dance as we now know it, created the line dance 'Bayou Bay Boogie' especially for the song and Bob Peyre-Ferry wrote a partner dance for it.
Both dances are being enjoyed worldwide... not only in the U.S., U.K. and Europe but as far afield as Singapore and Japan.
In addition to streaming worldwide on the Internet, the song has been aired on radio stations in 20 different countries and included on Coast2Coast CountryStars Mixtape Vol. 1.
Now... if I only had a band (with a brain) to capitalize on it ...
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8/6/2015 2:36:20 PM
Welcome to the pipeline, Martin!
I know what you're talking about. For around a half dozen years, I had most of a band together but we could not find a drummer who fit/stuck with us.
You were with Heatwave? The band with the top 40 hits in the US?
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Bryon Tosoff
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8/6/2015 3:38:08 PM
I have to pipe in, this is a good topic. just to let you all know I have other things going on so that is why I have not been around much of late
I was in a number of bands, some changes of personnel and the core stayed the same for the most part. always fun. did covers and originals. those in the group really jived well and melded together fantastic. Played with one couple who did the Festival in Woodstock, cant remember the bands name right now, but they were pro players obviously, Drummer and a Bass Player. He was awesome on percussion and she was a great bass player. and outstanding singer. I did most of the singing in that group, and having her do harmonies helped immensely . I actually headed up the groups after that experience of playing with them,
All country rock back in the 70's and then a few others in around the 80s mix of everything, did up a duo for a short time with a fellow who was an incredible singer and killer guitar player, unfortunately he fell back into the drug thing after kicking it, and that was the end of that. too bad. we had a good sound. Then of course as you all know I did some playing with the bluevoodoo as a sideman for maybe 5 years or so and was on a couple of their cds
Sparkle and Shine and Back to the Shack. did a number of fests with them, other venues the Yale in Van, its gone. Those guys are Top notch pro players and learned a lot from playing the blues and rock covers , I think the only thing I can say, is one fellow,guitar player. one of my best friends told me he wanted to punch me out once because I was laying down the heavies on him he said in getting the arrangements and parts right. I didnt even think I was being overbearing and or demanding, felt I was doing the right thing, but i guess some people get sensitive and maybe take things the wrong way. certainly it is sometimes tenuous and challenging because you have to give and take and understand peoples capabilities of being able to get their parts down. I would say the best experiences would be with the bluevoodoo and the couple from the country laden and rocking state of Texas USA (Woodstock players) who were outstanding in their leadership and song choices and total pro playing and they were tight, the bass the drums are just about the most important thing in a group. all in all, so much fun and being an entertainer is what it is all about. Not that I was full time. but did do enough to know how to lay down what I had to and have a crowd enjoy themselves, that is the bottom line. Now, it is solo work on occasion, teaching promo work. I am glad I dont carry around mofu heavy keys and amps etc anymore., break your back lol cheers talk soon sometime down the road
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Bryon Tosoff
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8/6/2015 3:41:46 PM
addendum for the most part, the experiences were good, except for the duo thing where one of my buddies had a substance abuse issue and fell back into the thing and really went downhill. The bands eventually just went pffft due to a number of issues family, personal issues. etc
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Noah Spaceship
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8/6/2015 5:58:34 PM
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I remember them all intimately.
1987 - Under Republican Arrest - (drums and guitar - 4 track band) no gigs, released a cassette of originals to our peers never broke up, just morphed into,..
1988 - Idiocracy - (drums) recorded studio album / live shows - new members lasted through 1992. Horrible break up. I was not ok after that.
1992 - Lilly's Remains (vocals) studio album and live band. I was replaced by drummers brother after he returned from college. That sucked for me.
1993 - Cantrip - (bass - vocals) studio album and live shows. Randy, our genius vocalist moved out of Utah. Who can blame him? ..oh and Brandt started fucking my (ex)wife.
1994 - Noahs Arc Was a Spaceship - solo project. Still going
1995 - Floor 13 - (bass) studio EP and over 1,000 gigs- I thought I'd met the next Jeff Buckley, he ended up being a pretentious douche. I quit after 5 years.
1998 - Stereotype X - (drums) self produced countless eps and live shows. I joined for a change of pace from Floor 13 - I played drums for this band while still playing bass for Floor 13 until their excessive drug use and new opportunities sent me off in 2000
2003 - gundhi (bass vocals producer) - Studio albums and over 1,000 live shows. I took my movie $ and built a studio and puffed up this band for 5 years. I quit when my daughters moved back to Utah and I bought a house so they could live with me.
2009 - 2013 no music outside of guitar repairs and adamant listening.
2014 - built new studio. Noah Spaceship is alive and kicking again.
Final thought - breakups were always a good thing in the long run. Bands are emotional and complicated relationships. All of the bands I performed with were original bands and original bands are a tricky art. I have no regrets, but I learned the hard way about many of the band dynamics over 20 years of incessant gigging and recording. I'm really picky now, and do not rule out the possibility of another band in my future.
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Martin H. Samuel
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8/8/2015 6:19:53 AM
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Scott,
No, not that 'Heatwave' ...
We banded in London as 'Heatwave' : www.heatwave.n.nu in 1969 (and have a brick in the [Liverpool] Cavern Club Wall of Fame) ... they 'borrowed' our name in 1975.
Wikipedia ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatwave_(pop_group)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatwave_(band)
Re: drummer who fit/stuck
As a 'victim' of the traditional 'X-number of musicians and a drummer' syndrome, I had a T-shirt printed that read, 'Don't ask me, I'm only the drummer!'
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Bat Faced Girl
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8/10/2015 1:34:22 PM
Sometimes breaking up a band is the best way to keep your friends...
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