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Lars Mars
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11/30/2008 9:56:30 PM
---- Updated 12/25/2008 7:11:20 PM
Puzzle.... SOLVED !!!!
What do the following have in common?
42.241227,-83.619003
29.983041,-90.081196
47.610445,-122.336197
29.897657,-81.311188
30.363692,-88.545685
36.978764,-86.459398
32.697466,-117.214165
38.916515,-97.213855
Head scratchingly yours,
Glenn
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kurtkurtley
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11/30/2008 10:05:26 PM
Blood pressure readings for extremely neurotic, and precise people?
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Lars Mars
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12/1/2008 6:02:26 AM
---- Updated 12/1/2008 6:06:02 AM
Kurt,
While the numbers do, in fact, match the blood pressure readings of a sample of volunteers in a Frank Luntz survey during the recent presidential debates, it is purely coincidental.
Larree,
You are getting warm, though that's not hard to do in southern California.
Glenn
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kurtkurtley
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12/1/2008 3:07:25 PM
Okay, one last try....
the range of SAT scores for most college athletes??? Huh??? maybe...
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Andy Broad
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12/1/2008 3:56:07 PM
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Well, I thought, google is your friend, I thought.
So I stuck one of thenumber into google to check up what it matched on....
One hit, this page! And it's less than a day old, I'm impressed with google indexing speed, if nothing else!
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Stegor
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12/1/2008 7:21:25 PM
They are all numbers. If anyone wishes to argue, m'thinks you have no legs on which to support your wrongness.
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Lars Mars
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12/1/2008 8:39:16 PM
the range of SAT scores for most college athletes???
Kurt; once again, your instincts are amazing. The numbers do indeed represent the paired IQ's of college athletes and their cheerleader girlfriends. Unfortunately, this is once again coincidental and not relevent.
So I stuck one of thenumber into google to check up what it matched on....
Andy; you also are warm and that's no easy feat on the UK coast.
But Google is your friend, or so it says on the bathroom wall at work. As to their speed in indexing us, it's not surprising considering the brilliance we display on the Pipeline.
They probably come here first each and every day... if only for the occasional wink from Anjuli.
Larree; with or without the ice, you are still only warm.
Stegor; good to see you around again. You are correct, and no one can argue (well, of course someone can argue, but it would be pointless. And while they are all numbers, I'm sorry to say that you are as cold as the Minnesota lakes in January (or June, for that matter).
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kurtkurtley
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12/3/2008 12:17:22 AM
Okay, I actually have ONE MORE try.....
NASDAQ stock readings on most days lately????
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Lars Mars
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12/11/2008 7:13:06 PM
---- Updated 12/11/2008 7:15:28 PM
NASDAQ stock readings on most days lately????
Well Kurt, you're actually close this time.... NOT!!!
It has nothing to do with the National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations.
It also has nothing to do with:
the New York Stock Exchange
the Chicago Mercantile Exchange
the Philadelphia Stock Exchange or
The Chicago Board of Trade
You are getting warmer, but everything's warmer than Connecticut in December.
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kurtkurtley
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12/11/2008 10:39:09 PM
....or maybe the numbers whizzing by on the screen when the movie guys want you to think they're doing some high powered computer thingy! Just before the hero figures out that the bad guy is going to blow up the bus full of handicapped children and grandmothers!
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12/21/2008 1:02:26 PM
Great headscratcher for sure.
Can't come up with much on this one, although if you enter the numbers in their respective order ie 42.241227,-83.619003 as a location on Google Maps or any other GIS or geographic locating program, each of them come up as locations in the continental United States. Not sure of the other similarities.
Cool riddle.
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Susan Raven
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12/21/2008 1:49:21 PM
Most enjoyable thread... and some wondrous suggestions!
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Kevin White
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12/21/2008 2:08:54 PM
Latitude and Longitude were the first things to occur to me too.
But the locations are random ... or seemingly so ... so its difficult to ascertain what they might have in common.
This being a musical site, they may have a musical root ... but it's real difficult to know exactly what the middle of an naval air base on an island off of San Diego might have to do with music ...
... unless it's something like: Locations where famous musicians bit the dust.
Cool thread, G!
I'm puzzling it out hunkering down in a hotel in Boston ... our daughter is in for the holidays from Dublin, and we had to come up to collect her, but w/ freezing rain predicted for CT, there's no way we're attempting to traverse back tonight.
The Pike was a mess. We saw no less than 20 cars that had driven off the sides.
Lots of fun w/ all the shoveling as of late, huh?
Kev-
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12/21/2008 2:21:40 PM
Kev wrote:
"But the locations are random ... or seemingly so ... so its difficult to ascertain what they might have in common.
This being a musical site, they may have a musical root ... but it's real difficult to know exactly what the middle of an naval air base on an island off of San Diego might have to do with music ...
... unless it's something like: Locations where famous musicians bit the dust."
Yeah, I hear ya, and if you wikipedia the said places (most of them, barring being near a runway on a naval base, or in the middle of the street in a couple of places, it seems awfully random.) some indeed have had the presence or have been the birthplace of some notable musicians.
Unless these are places that Bob Dylan found himself waking up at after a bad night on the town?
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Kevin White
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12/21/2008 2:27:27 PM
lol ...
Exactly ...
Jimmy Buffet is from that town in MS.
Ric Ocasek is from Bowling Green KY
... but no one is from Abilene KS ...
... and you can pick from the litter from New Orleans.
:^D
Kev-
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JOHN FRY
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12/21/2008 7:12:55 PM
Hint time. Does it have anything to do with music?
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The Man With No Band
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12/21/2008 7:20:53 PM
Locations that appear in Song Titles ....
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Lars Mars
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12/21/2008 9:15:43 PM
Wow! I'd given up on this thread for lack of players. And I noticed it on the Pipeline as William had revived it... where'd you find it? It had long since disappeared from the recent topics page.
Susan stopped by from the UK countryside (nice looking town, by the way).
William was the first to actually test them as coordinates, making Alberta as hot as Death Valley in July. It is indeed a geographic puzzle. Congratulations!
Kevin, despite being snowed in in Boston, generated enough heat to thaw and dry the roads all the way home to Mansfield. By tying it to music and actually punching in all of the coordinates, you receive the Medal of Perseverance.
You made the smart choice, my friend, it took my wife two and a half hours to drive 60 miles home from Windham.
Hint time. Does it have anything to do with music?
John, it does, but nothing you've heard. It doesn't have anything to do with birthplaces or deathplaces of musicians. It has nothing to do with any song you know, music history or anything that might lead you to solve it by running song titles through your head.
Sam, read above note. Music won't solve the riddle (at least not now).
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kurtkurtley
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12/21/2008 11:08:37 PM
So, what, are you saying that my guesses may have been, possibly, incorrect in some way??
Huh???
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING????
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JOHN FRY
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12/21/2008 11:18:02 PM
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if this is it I hate you!
Generating musical compositions using models from probability statistics, fractal geometry, and other nonlinear and chaotic systems, referred to by some composers as a mapping technique or mapping, is discussed. Composition based on celestial coordinates made audible through an interactive Pascal computer program that generates such coordinates for all the planets and the Earth's Moon as seen from any point on Earth for any given time frame is reported. The compositional environment is examined, the durational schemes used are described, and the composer's options are discussed
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kurtkurtley
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12/21/2008 11:21:58 PM
John,
I'm more confused by this than I was by your "oops" on the other thread.
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Lars Mars
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12/21/2008 11:57:10 PM
if this is it I hate you!
John, no need to put that much effort into hating me. There are many more mundane reasons readily available. Just ask my wife! My lack of organization, my humming, my whistling, my disregard for neatness.. I could go on forever, but there's no need when she will do it for me... oh yes, my laziness.
As for the Mandelbrot - Kepler connection, it's not nearly that cosmic...
Enjoy the lovely weather in Orange (33.79N 117.86W) tomorrow (Showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 57. Calm wind becoming south between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%) and think of us poor putzes in Deep River (Mostly sunny, with a high near 27. Wind chill values as low as -1. Breezy, with a west wind between 22 and 25 mph, with gusts as high as 47 mph.)
So, what, are you saying that my guesses may have been, possibly, incorrect in some way??
Kurt, you know I love ya like a brother.. but...
Now I've got to lay my lazy head down for the night. I've got a heavy day of complaining about the weather ahead of me. But at least there will be a couple more minutes of daylight to make it that much more productive.
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Kevin White
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12/22/2008 1:39:02 PM
---- Updated 12/22/2008 1:46:32 PM
For the puzzlers ... this is the map grid. Ignore the blue lines, I asked Google for driving directions to get it to pop the map w/ the points.
A is the first location and H is the last:
... and you were up in my neck of the woods! Family?
K-
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Kevin White
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12/22/2008 1:43:55 PM
Next question:
Are the locations perhaps where certain music people live?
K-
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kurtkurtley
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12/22/2008 2:57:19 PM
I think they're all cities that have outstanding warrants on Glenn!
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Lars Mars
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12/22/2008 7:24:44 PM
I asked Google for driving directions to get it to pop the map w/ the points.
Kev, actually driving has a lot to do with it. It won't help to solve the puzzle, but once the answer is revealed (soon, I promise), it'll be apparent.
As to the map, it's an approach I wouldn't have thought of, but if you think more text than graphics, you'll find that you're absolutely scalding hot (not that way, but I do admire the hat).
Though I'm sure some music folk live in each and every location, it's not pertinent.
... and you were up in my neck of the woods! Family?
Nope, Judy was up at Windham Hospital with a friend. Sixty miles in two and a half hours isn't her record. It once took her over five hours to get home from Quinnipiac and that's only 30 miles. Wait... you don't think... nah.. couldn't be..
I think they're all cities that have outstanding warrants on Glenn!
Kurt, you may be right about that. I can't seem to get in and out of the bathroom without picking up a parking ticket!
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Kevin White
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12/22/2008 8:19:14 PM
It was somebody's tour?
The question is whose?
Just asking ...
Nah, it wasn't. She knows what she's got.
Best,
Kev-
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JOHN FRY
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12/22/2008 9:39:13 PM
ROUTE 66!!!?
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kurtkurtley
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12/25/2008 6:42:05 AM
So...
Get your kicks, on route 66!
(Todd and Buzz, where are you when we really need you boys!)
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Lars Mars
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12/25/2008 7:06:35 PM
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You've all done so well, I really can't torture you anymore. Special merit goes to Kevin who doggedly persisted to solve the puzzle.
Here are the cities that Kevin laid out:
Ypsilanti, MI
New Orleans, LA
Seattle, WA
St. Augustine, FL
Pascagoula, MS
Bowling Green, KY
San Diego, CA
Abilene, KS
All of the city names are either 3 or 4 syllables. That suggests a meter.
If you strip out the states, you'll find that every other city name rhymes.
As Kevin posited, it's a tour. It would be a logistics nightmare and the least efficient layout of a tour ever undertaken (see Kevin's map to prove that point). Whoever came up with it would be fired once the fuel bills came in. So it's a fictitious tour.
As several people guessed, it's a song.
Getaway Clean
Every day she sets a new heart blazing
From Ypsilanti down to New Orleans.
When she leaves, all the boys are half crazy;
She getaway clean.
Every day she sets a new heart burning
From San Diego back to Abilene.
When she leaves, all the boys are yearning;
She getaway clean.
[after cracking a secret code]
Ralphie: [Reading it] Be sure to drink your Ovaltine. Ovaltine? A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch!
Now for those of you who may feel cheated by such a cheesy new song promo, two things:
1. I really didn't intend it to be such. I was just fooling around with GPS coordinates and had those cities in mind.
2. If the subject line Puzzle drew you to click, you're a thinker by nature and a puzzle solver... you can't help it. Though it may not be the greatest puzzle, it did give you something to tweak your impressive mind... a moment's diversion for an otherwise whirring brain. Sorry if the tune wasn't worth the trouble, but it was never about the song.
And thank you all for playing... Johnny, tell them what they've won!
The song is really just a live rehearsal take (complete with some stray pops, buzz, hum and strained vox) from 2007. Though he wasn't much help at solving the puzzle, Kurt Kurtley had a copy and out of the blue added the cool Garth Hudson organ. Thanks Kurt.
THANK YOU ALL FOR PLAYING
Glenn
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Steve April
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12/25/2008 10:06:57 PM
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very cool song guys, and the wurlitzer completes the vibe well. happy holidays!!!
in the mood for a funny video check out annie lennox...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA
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Kevin White
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12/26/2008 6:58:10 AM
Well, it wasn't really a FAIR puzzle now, was it? It wasn't public knowledge, but personal knowledge required to solve.
:^D
Nonetheless, it made for interesting whittling away of time on a snowy day.
Thanks Glenn!
I just watched the Christmas Story yesterday!
K-
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kurtkurtley
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12/26/2008 5:02:37 PM
Kev -
You think it was unfair to you?
Imagine how I feel....
I already knew the answer, but since Glenn pays me $1.59 per stupid suggestion, well, you can see my dilemma.
After all, a guy's gotta eat!
Happy New Year!
Kurt
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Lars Mars
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12/26/2008 8:00:22 PM
Well, it wasn't really a FAIR puzzle now, was it? It wasn't public knowledge, but personal knowledge required to solve.
Kev, In order to name the song, yes. But when the question of music came up, I did say that it was no song you'd ever heard.
I was satisfied that you guys had solved it when you came up with the map and figured it to be a tour. Finding the rhyme and meter would've been extra points.
I even checked the Pipeline to see if you were posting before I uploaded the song. John wasn't on yet and it looked like you weren't on, so I uploaded it, thinking it would be gone from the new tunes list before anyone noticed. No sooner had I hit submit when both you and John replied to successive topics. Then Kurt uploaded a song right behind me... sheesh!
You done good, my friend.
but since Glenn pays me $1.59 per stupid suggestion, well, you can see my dilemma.
It's only $1.39 and with the quality of your stupid suggestions, I'm still feeling ripped off.
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