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Bryon Tosoff
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1/23/2026 9:51:20 AM
Man this hurts seeing an valuable longtime member leave Holwork. we hope you return
It is a painful thing seeing Holworks leave IMPNATION, I hope he comes back,
As it stands it looks bleak for that to happen
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Larree
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1/23/2026 11:38:25 AM
Yeah, it totally sucks. And I haven't seen any recent posts from Donna, either. I hope she didn't decide to quit, too.
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Desperado Revue
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1/23/2026 12:39:47 PM
Larree, Donna's artist page is still there.
Not a quitter.
Norm.
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Larree
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1/23/2026 1:46:06 PM
Thanks, Norm. Yes, her pages have not been removed, but she has not been actively participating on the Pipeline like she was a few months ago.
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Scott
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1/23/2026 2:10:05 PM
Larree, she only usually comes around a few times a year. to the pipeline anyway.
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Larree
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1/23/2026 2:19:00 PM
True. But I wonder if the negativity caused her to step back this time.
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Mike Lance
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1/23/2026 3:06:59 PM
As creativity ebbs and flows, so does participation in these locales. I myself am an example.
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Larree
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1/23/2026 4:14:20 PM
I feel bad because I am the one who brought the AI into the IMP mix. I totally get the arguments against it. And if I were one of the noobs who have never played an instrument or written a song before, claiming to be the next Prince, about to release the 400 songs I "wrote" this weekend, all disdain would be rightfully deserved. AI is a much different tool/toy in the hands of someone who has even a basic understanding of music composition and form. And in the hands of a seasoned pro... Hell, I think Bry is doing amazing work in Suno, and he is newer to the game than I.
Re: Ethics.
I make a point of heavily labeling my AI work. No one says I have to, but I definitely do want to. Transparency is important to me. I even created the Larree AI artist page to keep that experiment in the lab. Because it is an experiment. And like any good research scientist (not that I am a research scientist, but I do hang out at Caltech with the smart kids), I will gladly publish the results of my work and how I reached my musical conclusions.
And one more thing...
The music industry has never done a god damned bit of good for me, so I don't care if they shit their pants over AI.
Peace! And come back, Holo!
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Scott
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1/23/2026 9:19:50 PM
hey Larree, just to be straight here, hope you know that Holworks is not our old political friend Holo Lukaloa, in case you didn't. ha ha
I got a big announcement. I just spoke to Mark (Holworks) and he's going to start his page back up again. I expressed how we all wanted him back and he's going to putting up some new music soon~!
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W.E.Ervine
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1/23/2026 9:43:08 PM
---- Updated 1/23/2026 9:44:03 PM
Thanks for the kind words & the promotion of Grim Reaper Bryon
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Larree AI
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1/23/2026 9:49:16 PM
Oh, I didn't think Holo was that Holo, Scott, lol. And that is great news! Glad he's coming back. I think I once got pissed off over something and pulled my music down. But that was in the day of phone modems, and damn, it took forever to reupload!
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Holworks
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1/23/2026 10:47:01 PM
I thank all of you who noticed. Scott hollered at me as did Mike, so that made me feel like I need to at least stay in the loop. I am now officially a porch frog ribbit, . . .ribbit.
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Bryon Tosoff
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1/24/2026 12:00:21 PM
Yeah , welcome back home to IMPNATION!!
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Psyche's Muse
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1/26/2026 11:16:04 PM
Ha Ha Ha! Holwork... Thou FROG !! And NO! "The Message" of Thou FROG !! IS NOT "meant as being" FOR YOU Holworks. It does kinda "fit" into this topic though! hahaha! -M-
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