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Father Time
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10/17/2019 9:33:53 AM
sucks that we surrendered in Syria
We bomb our own bases
oh the embarrassed faces
of patriots who understand
Roll over for Putin
How did things get so ruined
Well that's all because of one man
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10/17/2019 11:23:28 AM
Where were you when that debacle in Libya happened just a few short years back Scott?
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Larree
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10/18/2019 1:43:36 PM
We need to get ALL of our troops out of the Middle East.
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/18/2019 2:48:48 PM
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Agree with Larree America needs to get out of that hornets nest. And any other country . You wonder US is one the most hated nations .poking their noses and interfering militarily and politically for so long .Why spend trillions elsewhere when that money can be invested at home ..for veterans the poor street people homeless welfare. Improve the education medicare invest in ones own people and nation .how about investing in the infastructure of their own country did you know their are 1600 bridges at risk and in poor shape same with issues with dams why continue to piss away monies in that bloody forsaken damn place..get out
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/18/2019 3:40:14 PM
And the human cost of lives and those injured and maimed from every war torn part of the mid east and elsewhere. Bring the troops home . This should have been attended to years ago. Who profits no one but the Military Industial Complex .and families who have lost loved ones continue to mourn and shed tears of grief. Sons and daughters families will never see again . Yeah that is the thing that really sucks!!!!
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Father Time
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10/18/2019 6:11:15 PM
so you guys cool with ISIS prisoners getting freed then?
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/18/2019 7:53:57 PM
FT, this is a war the US should have never been involved with FFS. The US pokes it nose into places it should not be in , like so many. Study some history about the middle east. it is a shithole and always has been. It is a hell hole ISIS or not, it is the POS of all POS FFS
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/18/2019 9:17:11 PM
easy to say stuff when sitting in the comfort of your home with no threat. we are so quick to judge. sure, have the military men and women be put in harms way, and take a bullet for you. the US needs to F O right out of there ,let the countries in that area handle the situation, unless you are like Hillary, a war monger. US needs to get the F out of places they dont belong. The US as a checkered past and terrible history of interfering, bloody hands, dirty money and the Military Industrial Complex makes billions and billions and look where it has gotten you all in deep shit , The right decision has been made get the Fk out of there, and extricate yourself. let Turkey and its neighboring countries deal with the issue, you guys need to stay out of it,
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Larree
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10/21/2019 9:31:31 AM
FT, don't be a warmonger like Hillary. She IS the personification of rot. I thought you were a peace and love hippie. Get back to your roots, dude.
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Stoneman
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10/23/2019 12:23:46 AM
The world will never forget how the USA turned their backs on their allies and ran like little bitches. When we need them again ( and we will) they will say no and I don't blame them. As a veteran I am ashamed of what we have done. No, we should have never been there but we are and there is no taking that back now. They will just shift the troops to another part of the mid east and wait for the next conflict to arise. It shouldn't take too long in these conditions. ISIS will regroup and redeploy their minions throughout the mid east and the world. The problem will only multiply and begin attacking our way of life again. So many people think that we should just stay out of it but there is no staying out of it. There is no neutral ground to stand on. Were either against the terrorists or with them. They have decided that they are against us. So, the choice is apparent. If we are against them we must continue to wage a concerted fight or they will grow stronger and reach our shores again. Yes, lives are going to be lost but even more lives will be lost if we don't fight back. Sitting around hoping the problem will go away is flat out stupid. Wake up! These people want to destroy us and everything we stand for. Now is not the time to play pussy. It will only get us fucked! Force must be met with greater force. That is the story that has been played over and over again throughout history. It is an unchangeable fact of life on this planet. An enemy does not contemplate civility in battle. It only contemplates how to win. The consequence of victory is always mass death. The consequences of defeat are immeasurable. To avoid this fate one must inflict death on your enemy before they inflict death on you. Every general knows this and lives by it. Every soldier is aware that death may come at any moment. We sign up to kill and possibly die for this nation and we do it willingly. There is no greater love than that of one who is willing to lay down his (or her) life for you. Unfortunately, there are some human afflictions that only war can cure. History has proven this to be true also. Ideologically, we are the big brother to many others who believe in democracy. That means we have a moral obligation to stand up for our little brothers who struggle for their own democratic ideals. Allowing them to fall will only bring us down. We roll away while our friends throw stale food at us and call us cowards. Shameful!
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/23/2019 7:10:22 AM
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So the fastest way is nuking them when they get in our way. Or have the Russians take care of things how they did in WW2, they did more to win
that war against Germany then the Allies did.
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Stoneman
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10/23/2019 4:12:12 PM
A statement like that is a vile swipe at all the lives that were lost by Americans and its allies during WW2. It is not about who did the most. It is about who did enough to win. Who sacrificed enough to stop the evil axis. The answer is that everyone did enough to win. Divisive people use tactics like this to divide loyalties and fray alliances. But, it is not necessary as we have done enough to fray our own alliances with this latest crap we did. Who wants an ally that cannot be counted on to hold up their own end of the bargain? Nobody!
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/23/2019 6:49:56 PM
I am not saying what you inferred Stoneman , there was a great amount of sacrifice, I know that, My dads battalion suffered massive losses on the Hitler line in Italy, finally after 6 months of battling them the troops managed to push back, gain the upper hand and extricated the Germans out of that area. . and so, yes I agree with you absolutely there was a lot the allies did, although I am basing my evaluation on history books written about the March of the Russians to Berlin and the incredible amount of sacrifices they did. one is too many, and previously how much blood was shed and killing by the Nazi's regime and German army, the Russians had far more causalities and they really did make a huge difference in taking down the Germany Army .
So I base this on history books I read, many of them and news articles
recent washington post article dont-forget-how-the-soviet-union-saved-the-world-from-hitler
I did not intend to diminish what the Allies did, I was making a point of how important and vital the Russian army was .
The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.
"It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," writes Hastings.
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/23/2019 6:54:43 PM
I have my dads memoirs of what him and his fellow soldiers endured and undertook during WWII, Italy N africa, European Theatre. .pages and pages of his writings, he did 5 years of it, can you imagine fighting for that amount of time slogging away, no breaks, unless you got wounded and then shipped back to the front. war is horrible.
regards
bt
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10/24/2019 12:25:15 AM
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I recall meeting a former US soldier who was badly wounded in the Battle Of The Bulge and woke up later in a German hospital surrounded by wounded German soldiers. The doctor that treated him was from Philadelphia and he spent the rest of the war there with wounded young men like himself.
And when I was a boy all the pheasant hunters would come up during the fall and often talk about serving in the war in Europe, I recall hearing the term "Tiger" quite a bit, some of them must have been in the Tank crews, but I can't recall any disparaging comments about their former enemies.
And yeah, 97% of all the causalities during WWII were on the Eastern Front.. Russia's leaders at the time were happy to bog down the German support system with millions of captured soldiers often sent into battle without weapons, there were plenty more to replace them later. The entire USSR was the land army and Germany eventually succumbed to the weight.
One little know fact is had the D-Day landings failed, the Allies may have offered Germany an Armistice in exchange for being allowed in Europe in order to prevent the USSR from over-running the entire Continent in the case Germany lost the war in the East. And had that possible scenario happened, it's not at all out of the question there may have been a Allied-German military alliance to prevent that outcome.
Wouldn't we all be better off if that war had never happened? God Bless The Peacemakers.
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