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Tao Jones
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10/3/2009 1:28:29 PM
Songs Are Not Essays
They don't have to explain anything. They don't have to persuade for a stance. They don't have to teach. They don't need to be sequential, they don't have to have closing arguments.
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/3/2009 1:46:25 PM
yah of course Bob, they are what they are. indeed..emotions and all,it is for sure what they, the songs can do to you and for you, as a listener and how they evolve or grow is a cool thing for an artists/musician to behold, I marvel at what I listen to in music, and all the many styles that come from the many cultures...
for me , I kinda compare it to something like walking beside a stream in the forest, gathering in the whole atmosphere and just appreciating the beauty of it all or like watching a Raven gliding...soaring in perfect freedom, being .....now that is unexplainable beauty ..and some songs can do that too....
kinda like that....sorta....the.inspiration and all that music and songs can do for us
bryon
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Jeff Allen Myers
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10/3/2009 2:33:18 PM
---- Updated 10/3/2009 2:33:34 PM
Goo Goo G' Joob??
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Bryon Tosoff
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10/3/2009 2:35:55 PM
just another essay here for you all,. I just gota big spider bite on my f---ing neck when I was in my shed,cleaning it out bastard hurts like hell
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Andy Broad
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10/3/2009 7:46:50 PM
They certainly aren't and it's a good job too. my would all get graded E if they were essays :-)
Another thing they are not is Poems, they only need to make sense when sung. That's one of the reasons I think the singer is as important as the song, apparently weak lyrics in the right hands can be turned into great music.
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Hop On Pop
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10/4/2009 7:58:28 AM
A song is a song is a song is a song.
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The Man With No Band
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10/4/2009 11:34:33 AM
I would say ... "songs don't have to be essays" ...
Some of the finest are essays, beautiful poetry, hard driving rain, trips through buried consciousness ...
Guess it depends on the context in which one is speaking ...
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Tom O'Brien
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10/4/2009 1:20:10 PM
They don't have to do anything. But they can do anything. I'm sure that in the right hands, the Gettysburg Address could be a song. Many songs are the opposite of essays - they are nonsense. What something is NOT is not worth arguing. A walrus is not a toothbrush. Care to argue? Tell us what a song IS, and you may have a more interesting thread.
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Tao Jones
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10/4/2009 4:29:03 PM
I think it is an interesting topic. All my topics come from discussions in my head...they're mostly things I'm telling myself...
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Social Spit
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10/4/2009 7:29:57 PM
---- Updated 10/4/2009 7:57:45 PM
But WHY NOT? :p :) :p!
Sometimes I like to write the Great American Novel in my songs.
Other times, they are just window dressing for saying "Fook Ooof"
(Fook Oof is not the same as saying that other thing, which I absolutely am NOT saying!)
:p :p :p
Here...
I didn't write actually, some old ded guy wrote it, name of Martin Loother - (NOT "King")
A Mighty Fortress
Of all the songs I've listened to... Have Played! This is a REMARKABLE composition. I envy this guy's musical writing technique, he was a Spiritual Genius, a musical Genius.
And so here, we can translate his song to Rock and Roll.
This sing, in just the three verses I have used in my rendition... Says a LOT, with Minimum of Verbiage.
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Duane Flock
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10/4/2009 8:07:31 PM
A good song will tell you something that's worth hearing again and again. Whether it's a story about a significant time in history, or something that's happened to someone, or maybe wise advise from experience. Some songs don't make any sense at all lyrically, but they're a lot of fun. One thing most all songs have in common is:
If it's in essay form, or poem form, or even a grocerey list doesn't matter as long as the music matches the pattern of the lyrics.
Song structure I think plays a big part in this.
D.
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Tom O'Brien
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10/6/2009 7:56:13 PM
Right-o Duane. As much as I love a good lyric, that's not what makes a song swing, or groove, or rock, or whatever. A well sung lyric put in just the right way in a song is almost always going to trump the same lyric just sitting on a page.
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weAponX
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10/7/2009 12:11:36 PM
---- Updated 10/7/2009 12:12:20 PM
A good song will tell you something that's worth hearing again and again. Whether it's a story about a significant time in history, or something that's happened to someone, or maybe wise advise from experience.
Duane...
Watch the film "Ball of Fire" with Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck... Then watch the remake, "A Song is Born" with Danny Kaye, Virginia Mayo, and Benny Goodman. Gotta watch both of em in order, "Ball of Fire" is making a statement about slang and how people talk... There is a priceless line, where a thug tells Stanwyck "Hang by the Ameche" "Huh?" "The Telephone!"
In the same way, the remake "A Song is Born" with Danny Kaye, makes the same statement about the music of the day, and in both films there is incredible music, "Ball of Fire" Touting Gene Krupa, playing an incredible solo on Matchsticks, and "Song is Born" has an incredible centerpiece song, which includes Luis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, the Dorseys, and a bunch of other jazz greats.
In the same way these films make a repeatable statement, usable in two different decades, a song can be the same way, and that's why I love to DO cover songs and listen to bands do cover songs.
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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10/7/2009 3:24:19 PM
----Don Mclean??
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Duane Flock
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10/7/2009 6:20:33 PM
WeaponX
In my reply I almost put " but jazz is an exeption", but I didn't.
I love Jazz and Fusion and Progressive Rock. All of those genres can put huge holes in my previous answer to this blog. But even those types of tunes do have a certain kind of pattern to them. That's one of the reasons I like that music so much, because it's always a step ahead and above my abilities. Something to strive for in musical perfection in my eyes/ears.
I made a comment in an earlier blog about having to record older movie and musical theatre show tunes for my mother-in-law. She wants me to put her old albums on CD for her. I'm getting a lot out of some of these songs and it's widening my musical visions. I'll have to check out those two versions of that tune you mentioned.
Gotta run to band practice. (Yes, I play in a coverband)
Hahahahaha
D.
Hey Rob, there's "American Pie" too.
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SILVERWOODSTUDIO
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10/7/2009 8:26:50 PM
Heh Duane
----more like a novel than an essay---
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