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Why are IAC musicians so politically minded?....

9/30/2008 8:00:05 AM
IAC Censorship in Blogs....

9/23/2008 5:21:35 AM
Anyone else having problems exporting their KIAC Player?....

5/15/2008 3:32:06 AM
ASCAP, BMI, or SESAC?....

5/3/2008 4:54:13 AM
U2 Manager Paul McGuinness Speech about the current state of the Music Business....

4/22/2008 12:12:19 AM
Celebrate Every Day....

3/9/2008 7:32:16 AM
So, what are you listening to RIGHT NOW?....

2/22/2008 12:52:26 PM
Is "Indie" a music Genre or a Movement?....

2/17/2008 3:31:53 AM
How do YOU judge whether a song is good or not?....

2/1/2008 6:00:02 AM
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1/11/2008 2:03:51 AM
Music Biz Interview....

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The good old days are yet to happen...

1/8/2008 3:28:56 AM
What was the last album you bought?...

1/3/2008 8:01:21 AM
So, where are all these Pipeline profiles?

12/30/2007 6:36:48 PM
Who's hiding?....

1/8/2008 3:28:56 AM

What was the last album you bought?...
It never ceases to amaze me just how many people on IAC appear by their posts to be so vehemently anti mainstream music. Sure, there's plenty crap out there but there's also a huge amount of great music. It's always been like that and no doubt always will be. Just visit your local music store and have a listen.

Why waste energy and karma by being so negative and anti?

I wholeheartedly support Indie but don't feel any need to continually and so angrily criticise the mainstream - I'd rather just get on and create my own music and enjoy and be inspired by other people's music whatever the source.

So, what were the most recent albums you bought?

My last few were:

- Snow Patrol :: Eyes Open
- Beverley Knight :: Affirmation
- Keane :: Under The Iron Sea
- Avril Lavigne :: Under My Skin

My most played songs according to iTunes on my main Mac:

- Goldfrapp :: You Never Know
- Prince :: Dear Mr Man
- Christina Aguilera :: Infatuation

1/8/2008 3:41:01 AM

It takes all kinds to make a world. Don't resent people because they don't have the identical temperment as yourself. For that, you should be sentenced to a long ride across the country listening to Clear Channel. Then again you'll be able to hear plenty of Christina Aquilera so that may not harm you ! fwiw you seem a bit of a contrarian yourself, passive aggressiveness is woven from the same cloth as bitching about bad music.

The last records I bought were Neil Young - Chrome Dreams and an indie CD by Sully which I bought for 1 penny at Amazon.com and it's perhaps the best indie record I've ever heard, at least in the top 3.

1/8/2008 3:51:09 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. If you like it, then listen to it. There is no point in missing out on good music just because your pride will be hurt if someone else has heard of it. Youve got to remember there is a lot to be learnt from the big names when it comes to song writing and production.

The last few albums I bought were:

Paramore - Riot: Very good pop/rock/metal album but soon gets boring.

Radiohead - In Rainbows: Its not gripped me yet but I havn't given it much of a chance.

Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold: Average, apart from 'A little piece of heaven' - check out this song, its amazing - I believe Steve Bartek (arranges orchestra for Danny Elfman) wrote the orchestral parts.

An album I am trying to buy is Doug Does...". Its by the General Manager at Crush Music Management who has done a heap of Jazz covers of Panic and the Disco and Fall Out Boy aswell as some others from the Decaydence record label. It is definately worth checking out. Unfortunately I cant find it to buy on a secure site so to date Doug does not have my pennies in his pocket...

1/8/2008 3:59:38 AM

"There is no point in missing out on good music just because your pride will be hurt if someone else has heard of it."

That's kind of a simplified analysis of people who aren't fond of current mainstream radio, isn't it ? With all due respect it sounds like you're hanging out with junior highschoolers.

btw, I like your music. It's a lot better than most stuff on the mainstream. :)

1/8/2008 4:04:08 AM

Father Time, I'm really not "resenting" anyone's differences nor being "passively aggressive". It's only that I have noticed a strong anti mainstream current on IAC and am offering my opinions on the subject.

Thanks for listing your recent purchases and responding to this blog. I should check out Chrome Dreams - Neil Young was amazing in the 60's and 70's but I didn't like his later stuff so much.

1/8/2008 4:19:36 AM

Actually, the last 'album' I bought was a DMD by Ultajazz, right here on IAC. The album before that was by Seppuku Paradigm, another indie artist. I figure I'll always have the opportunity to get an album by a 'mainstream' artist. However, the Indie artists tend to produce music that is at least as excellent in quality, if perhaps a bit fleeting in the marketplace. Grab it while you can.

1/8/2008 4:24:46 AM

I recently purchased "Blue" by Joni Mitchell. My reason for buying is is that I lost my old copy. I also a Nina Simone CD and replaced my old Billie Holiday compilation. deb

1/8/2008 4:26:25 AM

- Snow Patrol :: Eyes Open
- Beverley Knight :: Affirmation
- Keane :: Under The Iron Sea
- Avril Lavigne :: Under My Skin

My most played songs according to iTunes on my main Mac:

- Goldfrapp :: You Never Know
- Prince :: Dear Mr Man
- Christina Aguilera :: Infatuation



@red, You dont half like some drivel mate.
not bitchin', I just think thats manufactured, canned and full of e numbers. like tomatoes in winter from a gro tunnel, big and juicy, but no flavour,
but I can understand why middle aged guys buy Christina Aguilera, same reason as seven year kids want a Big Mac without even having tasted one.

Last label music I bought was "Sun Rah, Purple Night".

1/8/2008 4:26:54 AM

Fathertime,

It certainly does sound like high school music enthousiasts and thats where it stemmed from. When I was at schooI I wasted so much money on albums I never really liked, just so I could be individual, it took me a while to realise I was stupid but there is still an aspect of it about with me and my friends. Every one wants to be the pioneer and there is nothing wrong with that, I just feel that some people do nothing but 'be the pioneer' and miss out on other good stuff. It still pains me when a band I saw in a dive 5 years ago goes big. Not just because they're not 'my band' anymore but because it generally means they release a shit album. I am becoming a prime example of this as I am currenly negotiating a release with a Uk record label but they are asking me to add and remove things from my songs that I dont feel I want to.. anyway thats another story for another day...

I think what Im getting at is that some people listen to obscure artists because thats the music that appeals to them, its not their fault that the music they listen to doesnt do it for most people, and its not their fault that mainstream music doesnt appeal to them. Other people however, refuse to listen to mainstream music and go out of their way to find an artist that no one has ever heard of. I used to be like this but ended up missing out.

Oh dear, I intended to write a few sentences but seem to have written a mixed up rant... sorry

1/8/2008 4:27:09 AM

Technically I didn't buy these as they were bought for me but my most recent additions are:

Prodigal Son - Martin Simpson: Incredible guitarist / blues / folk singer.
Daily Bread - Corey Harris: The blues meets reggae.

I also listen to my friend Sally Strawberry's EP al lot it's totally out of my usual genre but I just love her voice check her out at www.sallystrawberry.com

1/8/2008 4:27:11 AM

Of course you're being passive aggressive, Robin. While you're offering your opinion on the topic you're also passing judgment on people who don't feel the same way you do, spouting off about what a waste of energy it is to have an opinion about mainstream music that is not positive like yours. On the other hand, I think mainstream music itself is a big waste of energy. Besides you're skewing what my blog was about in the first place. I didn't say you can't find good music in record stores. A lot of the best music in record stores is never heard on the mainstream. Neil Young for instance has produced a ton of great music in the last 30 years but that never gets played on radio. I could literally name 50 great Neil Young songs (actually more) that I've never heard on radio from that period. It's usually just the same 2 or 3 songs, Heart of Gold, Southern Man.. That's just incredibly lame and that's why I coined it "the lamestream "- and if you think that's anti, well I think respecting the guy who perpetrated 9-11 is a bit anti too. And if you've got to start a new thread to bitch about mine, well, seems a little anti to me. heh

Hell, you even borrowed the topic of my blog word-for-word to start your little rant, how passive aggressive can you get, you negative individual. :)

1/8/2008 4:35:09 AM

Ben, I know exactly what you're saying there, I had a friend in college who if you asked her who her favorite artists are would name 10 I never heard of and I've heard of many obscure acts. As for me, my favorite artists are the Beatles, Led Zep, Neil Young, Nirvana, the Who, among others. Most of those had a part in the mainstream of their particular eras. However if you scan the modern rock tracks that are being played on rock radio now, none of them are in the same league as the bands I just named and that's an understatement.

When I first heard Eddie Vedder's voice, it never occurred to me that 100 bands would make it by singing like him. David Crosby says the difference between the music biz now and in the 60s and 70s is that then, artists did the tastemaking, ran that part of things, and now guys in suits do it.

1/8/2008 4:47:02 AM

The last album I bought was:
Daniel Johnston - Why Me? (Live In Berlin)

I also downloaded some tracks from a Tom Zé record on iTunes. (I had a gift card.)

Oh yeah, and if you want to know my listening habits, just check out my daily updates on the Pipeline, here. (Although I listen to some IAC every day, I don't list that on my daily "Now Playing" because I just figure that it's assumed.)

1/8/2008 5:16:52 AM

I'm genuinely sorry you feel that way, Father Time. I'm certainly challenging your anti mainstream views but I don't expect everyone to think the same as I do - It would be boring if everyone did!

I'm not bitching at you personally but just challenging your views and giving you, and anyone else, the opportunity to clarify them, which you have, thankyou. Yes, I openly stole/borrowed your blog words - They were very relevant and even inspirational. I started my own blog rather than risk being accused of saying something anti in yours.

How on earth do you manage to interpret my blog as being a "rant"??

Re 9-11, I suggest you re-read Larree's whole thread and see if you can better understand all I have said there. But, I wonder if there's any point as you appear to have prejudged me anyway. It's a shame if I'm misunderstood but.

Perhaps we should differentiate between what's played on commercial radio stations and what's released on major labels in the music shops. It's a tragedy if music shops are decreasing in certain areas but on the other hand it gives entrepreneurs an opportunity to start up new local and/or specialist ones including indie.

1/8/2008 5:25:57 AM

Deb wrote: "I recently purchased "Blue" by Joni Mitchell."

....I used to have that on vinyl (one of my favorites) and had guest tickets (up close, lucky me) for Crosby Stills Nash & Young with Joni Mitchell on the same gig back in the 1970's in London UK. The Band and Jo Walsh were also playing.

A friend recently told me that Joni's latest album is very good but I haven't checked it out yet - In fact I didn't know she had made one(?).

1/8/2008 5:30:29 AM

Hi DT, I know what you mean but I wouldn't describe it as "drivel". I think Prince is a genius musically and I've seen Beverley Knight live many times and she's as good as Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin, in my opinion. Each to their own though and I should check out that heavy black dude Sun Rah. Thanks.

1/8/2008 5:45:13 AM

Although more record stores are closing there is an abundance of online stores with a huge vareity of music in different formats.

Is this just evolution or a change for the worse?

1/8/2008 5:55:55 AM

Ben wrote: "Although more record stores are closing there is an abundance of online stores with a huge vareity of music in different formats.

Is this just evolution or a change for the worse?"

....I reckon it's evolution and there's going to be pluses and minuses in every change.

Overall, I think it's great - Much more World music available for a start. Power has moved from the Hippies to the Suits and is moving towards the People. It's all healthy evolution.

Some people don't like change though.

1/8/2008 6:11:30 AM

....What I like about David Geffin is his support for Leonard Peltier.

1/8/2008 6:34:59 AM

BRING ME THE HEAD OF DAVID GEFFEN

1/8/2008 6:47:10 AM

@Red, Well, I'll agree that Prince has a lot of music in him, his guitar work is great, but the whole context of the vibe he's involved in makes me cringe,

Purple Rain was a great album in its day, I enjoyed it, but I was prolly a bit musically naive at the time when it came out in the eighties.

I recently heard a boot of a recent prince gig, and the whole thing made me cringe, like a cabaret act from another era,
"come on ladies, all da sexy baby girls in da house, mmm, " I thought it was eddie murphy doing a parody.
now thats just crass, put me off the former artist, shows him in the real light of performance, my dad played with a geezer in the sixties that used to use a rolled up cigarette packet down his trousers as he performed on stage,
Musical genius Prince maybe, but whether its by circumstance or choice, he is trapped in the world of the banal, the soulless, the contract. his own ego.
But let it not be said that its not entirely his own fault, he has a whole army patroling the net with the agenda of removing all unathorised content which may appear,
He'll shutdown any website which uses unauthorised images of him, let alone bootlegs.
The give away freebie album he released in the uk, I know was a multi national marketing ploy, selling a trashy sunday paper, I mean how low do these people need to get before they realise, It's that whole world of sleeze, the gutterpress, and product association that I make the connection with, and I just am not interested in that dollar machine. Prince became "throwaway" when he did that.

But anyway, if you can manage to find that Sun Ra(sorry, no "h", mine was a typo mistake), album.
I'm sure you'd enjoy it, there are some amazing improvisations on there, aswell as some sensitve moments, and a real jazz caucophony of grooves and polyrhythms and crossrhythms. and not any toilet inuendo.

1/8/2008 7:47:03 AM

DT, Yes, Prince's real talents seem somewhat wasted nowadays and he's somewhat trapped by the biz etc. I've seen him live a few times and found the breadth of his capability awesome and way ahead of so many other artists. He can do ballad, funk, jazz, rap, his guitar playing is among the very best but underrated (as is Neil Young's guitar work) and he does put on a great show. I'm not bothered by his ego or purpleness, I just know that I love quite a lot of his music though recently disappointing.

I've just seen a vid of Sun Ra - A bit of a space cadet!! And definitely a showman (like Prince). Not my taste for music from what I've heard so far but I'll keep an ear for more.

Chase The Vision, Not The Dollar....The Dollar usually follows.

1/8/2008 8:16:15 AM

So true.
But, have you heard his early (50's) Arkestra recordings?
They're a lot more traditional... like a big band on acid. John Gilmore is an underappreciated beast on tenor sax.

1/8/2008 8:16:25 AM

HOP wrote: "BRING ME THE HEAD OF DAVID GEFFEN"

....Do you dislike him that much? He's an interesting character and I'm sure is no saint, but who is?

There's a saying which goes something like: "Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them".

1/8/2008 8:28:10 AM

Not judging him. I just like the song.
I think that it's funny.

I take it that you're not familiar with Mojo Nixon?
Other gems:
•"Elvis Is Everywhere"
•"Don Henley Must Die"
•"Debbie Gibson Is Pregnant (With My Two-Headed Love Child)"
•"Piss Up A Rope"

1/8/2008 8:37:01 AM

Thanks for enlightening me, HOP. I don't know Mojo Nixon - Boy! Do I have a lot to learn here! :)

That was a good example of how easy it might have been to go off on a flaming of someone all based on a misunderstanding of words on the internet!

Cheers!

1/8/2008 9:52:01 AM

Why dis Corperate ? ... that's an easy one in my book ... Coperate is based on GREED ... Greed is one of the things I will always fight ... Coperate takes the individual and tries to change them all in the name of greed ... Mama Cass understood this and actually hated herself for becoming a part of exactly the thing their music's message was against ... They were told what to wear ... what to play ... where to play ... when to play ... who to associate with ... etc. etc.
Corperate takes things like big fat juicy hamburgers and turns them into McDonalds burgers ... It's all in the name of GREED and I for one will not support it anymore than I have to .... period

I'm not sure what the last Album I bought was but it was probably either Neil Young's "Unplugged" or "Silver and Gold"

1/8/2008 10:14:56 AM

Hi Sam, when Corporate is based on pure exploitive greed I wholeheartedly agree with you. Also, as an artist I wouldn't want to be told what to wear and what to play etc but not ALL 'Corporate' is greedy and there'll be some out there who are trying to do things to mutual benefit - Not many I grant you!

Dare I use the "understand" word again by saying that I understand that when a corporate invests a lot of money in an artist they are bound to want to get the maximum return on their investment and there is potentially a lot of money to be made. Some artists are totally happy to go along with it and it doesn't necessarily compromise their music in their eyes.

The capitalist world is founded on people making money out of each other. Anyway, things are evolving and changing....Slowly and as always.

1/8/2008 10:19:33 AM

I agree with your comments, good music is good music, regardless of where it comes from. I have Under The Iron Sea, it has been one of my favorites, and I typically do not go for a lot pf piano driven music, but the guys did a great job on these songs. It's the songs that are the important thing, great melody, arrangement and rythms. Even if I listen to something like "Walk Away" by Kelly Clarkson I can appreciate its merits as a great pop song, even though it is "mainstream". The control is actually returning to the artist these days. If artists make great music, they will find a way to get it out, they do not need record companies to do it.

My latest album purchase came after I watched a great movie called "Once", all of you musicians out may love it. It's about a street musician from Dublin who collaborates on songs with a girl and makes great music. I loved the film so much I discovered that the actor in the movie, Glen Hansard, is a real musician. When he was 21 he was one of the members of the band in the film The Commitments. Anyhow, much of the music in the film is by his band The Frames, so my most recent album purchase is The Cost by The Frames and it's excellent.

1/8/2008 10:29:16 AM

.....Wehaaaay!! Gary! Now I can openly admit to liking music such as by Kelly Clarkson! (if it already wasn't obvious to some! - Afterall I did list Avril Lavigne). The movie "Once" sounds definitely worth seeing.

Cheers!

1/8/2008 10:46:15 AM

Good blog!

The last record I bought was Best of Barenaked Ladies.

I had to catch up with this great commercial band because I spent so much time ignoring "mainstream" that I missed them as I have a thousand other great acts. over the years.

However, this is due mainly to my own all-consuming interest in MYSELF rather than any aversion to mainstream or any loyalty to indie.

Yes I really am self-centred when it comes to music (although I've always been generous with my money, time, love, etc.). Thank you IAC for helping me appreciate others who I feel I can relate to.

1/8/2008 12:03:21 PM

yes Robin, nice blog!
I bought the newest album by UK band "And Also The Trees":
(listen for) the rag and bone man

with the great song "under the stars", very hopeful, very soothing...
(www.andalsothetrees.co.uk)

PS: as previously posted in our blog, we covered their song "Roulette" for their fanspace: http://www.myspace.com/tributetoaatt

1/8/2008 12:23:34 PM

good music is good music. the only unfortunate thing is that most independent artists don't have the resources to compete.

so, anyway....

1. M.I.A. - Kala
2. radiohead - in rainbows
3. grizzly bear - yellow house
4. the fiery furnaces - widow city

1/8/2008 12:51:30 PM

....Technology being what it is now, I think independents DO have the resources to compete. I think it's in the distribution and marketing that indie resources are much more limited and even that is slowly changing for the better. It's evolving.

Even some laptops have the processing power and the software no longer costs an arm and a leg (GarageBand).

Lady Luck plays a big part as always.

1/8/2008 1:22:52 PM

Well I don't know if it's cheating, but the last album I *got* was Rachel Fuller's Cigarettes & Housework when she sent it to me.

~Lace~

1/8/2008 2:10:33 PM

I think independent artists have lots of leverage to compete these days. Joe Purdy sold like 85,000 copies of his album off his website.

Oh, and just a point of clarification, I did not actually buy a Kelly Clarkson record, I just really admired that one song's attitude, arrangement and overall appeal.

1/8/2008 3:06:58 PM

....That's exactly how I felt about Kelly Clarkson's song too, Gary (and I didn't buy it either!). I have bought Avril Lavigne's first two albums though.

I love pop music - It represents and encapsulates the whole culture of each era it exists in - The Everly Brothers....The Kinks....The gorgeous Kylie....The Sugababes....the list is endless.

At the other end of the spectrum I just enjoyed listening to "Summertime" by Kenny G and George Benson....Music is magic, but I digress!

As independants we have the tools to mash and create our own expression. Follow your vision and the dollar often follows.

Music is Life!

1/8/2008 4:30:05 PM

The last album I bought was McCartney's Memory almost full.

I finally joined the new tech era and got My first IPOD for Christmas. I loaded it with 1000 songs I had on my computer, all ripped from CD'S I purchased. To be honest, I don't see myself buying another album in the physical sense as I can go on I tunes, sample the album and purchase it in whole, or just a few songs. I then load into the Ipod. My Computer is backed up daily, so no risk of losing my catalog.

This new way of consuming music is both great and sad. Great for the sheer convenience and ability to carry your collection around with you...and sad because Many "Albums: will not be enjoyed in their entirety ever again. In fact, I believe our young people will never enjoy them. The artwork, the concepts, the "Flow" of an Album. Many great songs will be missed as consumers pick only the songs they know.

I have to say, I Love my IPOD. The music I love is with me everywhere I go...organized, cataloged, ready to listen at a touch of a click wheel.

I have every Beatle song on my Ipod, they have yet to release the catalog to digiital downloads. It will be intersting to see if Albums sell, or if their songs are consumed ala carte.

Jeff

1/8/2008 4:39:07 PM

I think 'Flowers' by The Rolling Stones was the last album i brought-and thats a compilation..But its great..
There's absoloutly nothing for me to get excited about spending money on in the mainstream..
If i'm gonna spend money on an album i want nearly all the songs to be great-and have magic,imagination and creativity i can learn from and lose myself in..
Like the later Beatles albums,LOve's Forever Changes,More Specials or the early 70s Bowie albums...
Am i gonna get that from Snow Patrol,Keane or Beverly Knight?

I think not!

1/8/2008 4:43:37 PM

Avril Lavigne tho is a whole different ballpark..

She's a true punkin-skatin'-emoin' goddess and i wouldn't dare put A Beatles or Bowie album next to a creative collosus like that...

1/8/2008 6:07:13 PM

Remember the mainstream is made up of many brooks, creeks, criks, estuaries, ravines, cucumber slumbers, dribbles and drabs.
It all flows baby.
It's only rok and wroll anyways.

Bruce Springsteen- Nebraska
Moby Grape

1/8/2008 6:08:48 PM

I'd been looking for a song called Party Doll that I'd seen Mary Chapin Carpenter perform on Later With Jools some years back, a friend found it for me on cd recently, the track was written by Mick Jagger & it's beautiful & dreamy. Good to see Steve mention Love's 'Forever Changes' & another fave is UK band Thunder but people keep borrowing our Thunder cds & mysteriously keeping them!!. I need to replace my copy of SwordfishTrombones by Tom Waits because it jumps half way through. If I listen to mainstream radio my main problem with it is the fact that the same tracks are played over & over again, I always think those slots could have been given to newcomers and on the rare occasion that I hear someone playing a Jackson Browne track they always choose Doctor My Eyes or Stay, he has so many thought provoking beautiful songs but it seems these are the only ones they can find!!

1/8/2008 11:54:22 PM

Good point about many albums only having a few tracks you like enough to want to buy the album, but that's the beauty of being able to buy single tracks. I use an iPod too, Jeff, but mainly for the car and when I'm sat around in it and not driving. With an iPod and iTunes it's easy to create one's own playlists (like IAC Stations) and even burn it to CD but an iPod is more convenient. I still buy a CD occasionally though.

We spent time arranging the track order and flow of our album "Either Side Of Now" and also the CD packaging and it's very satisfying having a cohesive result. We're also going to be making single tracks available separately and all as downloadable - Probably do a DMD on IAC too. It doesn't really matter if CD tracks get split up - We all like different songs.

My main Mac now automatically backs up every hour to an external hard drive so it's very reassuring - I've lost a whole music collection before now!

Re Beverley Knight, Steve (Ison), I guess you've never checked out her "Affirmation" album nor seen her live. It's difficult to see how someone can't appreciate the soul in her, especially on a sound system which delivers. But each to their own and I much prefer The Rolling Stones to The Beatles and don't rate McCartney as a solo artist at all since - He's a good musician but I just don't like his music nowadays.

1/9/2008 12:09:32 AM

I have only been remotely interested in music for 4 years and I would have to use a dictionary to find out the meaning of 'mainstream' OR 'indie' I have yet to buy an album...oh hang on I don't have a record, CD or mp3 player. I'm afraid if I listen to anything too much it bores me...I just want new stuff ALL the time, every day.

I should have added the next comment to FT's blog but the two seem to be overlapping...just to say

Hearing old stuff actually depresses me because I associate it with my life at that time and it's gone...playing the music today is like looking at pictures of dead relatives or of myself as someone I don't recognise now.
I really shouldn't be on this thread should I...just thought I'd bring a totally alternative view to the table and make myself look like a naive outsider who sees music mostly from a personal creative perspective...aside from that it's transient or throwaway to me.

Jilly

Red Robin, you don't need to reply to me, I realise I'm contributing little here and I hope I'm not killing your thread

1/9/2008 1:27:35 AM

RedRobin..Yeh,maybe me lumping in Beverly Knight with the others was abit unfair methinx..I've never heard her album but i've heard a few really good singles by her in a kinda rock/soul vein.She's got a great voice-and comes from Birmingham,where i live..
She's been totally eclipsed recently by the all-conquering rock/soul/blues traincrash that is Amy Winehouse..I like her music too-but don't 'Love' her

1/9/2008 1:40:02 AM

"I much prefer The Rolling Stones to The Beatles and don't rate McCartney as a solo artist at all since - He's a good musician but I just don't like his music nowadays."

AWW Red, the crux that illustrates how subjective music is...and Like Religion and Politics its kind of pointless to argue....

Beatles Vs. Stones... ...and poor Paul, no respect for a 65 year old Iconic Melody Master still making great music.

No point arguing, its personal..... To each his own.

Cheers to the Music!!!

1/9/2008 5:32:18 AM

When you say album I think vinyl. You know those big black things that go on a record player? I was wondering how you remembered the last Album you bought.
The last actual album I bought was Tobacco road by Edgar Winter.
Good Singin and Good Playin By Grand Funk. It was like 27 years ago.
Salami.

1/9/2008 5:44:35 AM

Bought a CD last night:
Trakan - Opening Soon Under New Management
They're on the same label as Hop On Pop, and damn this is a good record!!!

1/9/2008 5:51:35 AM

Steve - I'm afraid I detest Amy Winehouse, particularly because of her attitude and treatment of her fans. I don't like her voice either but that's just my taste. Bev K is in quite a different category of singer so I find it too difficult to make a comparison.

Jeff - You're so right about how subjective music is - There's probably not a subject which is more subjective. No point debating politics and religion much either but I sometimes find it difficult not to (you may have noticed!!).

Larree! - It's not a teenage Stones vs Beatles 'battle' - I just happen to much prefer the Stones to the Beatles. Their music was the Pop music of the day and as Pop is by definition so integrated into a generation's teenage culture and lifestyle it's inevitable that there will be rivalries. As later with Oasis vs Blur (I prefer Oasis).

Jilly - You wrote: "Hearing old stuff actually depresses me because I associate it with my life at that time and it's gone...playing the music today is like looking at pictures of dead relatives or of myself as someone I don't recognise now.
I really shouldn't be on this thread should I...just thought I'd bring a totally alternative view to the table and make myself look like a naive outsider who sees music mostly from a personal creative perspective...aside from that it's transient or throwaway to me."

....You bring up a good point: Music most definitely defines and reflects its time of existence and evolves through generations. I associate some music to experiences but do so with positive, not negative, memories. I think it's a shame when some people cling on desperately to ONLY the music of their youth and don't allow themselves to like their children's music. It's as if they think they have grown up and shouldn't like current pop (regardless of indie or commercial source). My 16yo daughter's taste in music is different from mine but we have a huge overlap and her taste covers right back to the 1960's.

It's Only Rock 'n Roll But I like It - Means a lot as well as being the title of what I think is a classic and great Rolling Stones song.

Thanks everyone who has commented in this blog.

1/9/2008 5:59:38 AM

Isle Of Ewe - The term "album" is usually a collection of songs/tracks, irrespective of the media of vinyl, CD, digital. However, I did have CD more in mind when starting this blog. I was so glad when vinyl died out - Such a storage problem as well as player and condition maintenance and no personalised playlists.

1/9/2008 6:46:02 AM

I was so glad when vinyl died out ...

I don't think I like you anymore ..... I'm gonna take my records and go home ... :)

1/9/2008 6:56:24 AM

....LOL :) Sorry Sam!! And to make you feel even worse: I could have given you my whole vinyl collection! TeeHee :)

1/9/2008 7:57:37 AM

....Hi Larree - You're just jealous that you didn't get my vinyl collection :).

Anyway, I thought you'd already taken me off your list a few blogs ago! :)

1/9/2008 8:00:10 AM

What's an Ipod ... ?

1/9/2008 10:17:20 AM

Please don't stay away from the IPOD out of protest or resistance to change....they are incredible! Obviously we have all imbraced the digital age as evidenced by our existence on IAC. I think it a logical step to embrace a platform that plays this medium, in an incredibly efficiciant organized way!

I loved records growing up, the album covers were large and really showed of creative, art. The Band "Yes" come to mind. When cd's came along they wer much smaller, and the Album artwork suffered. As far as sound? Yes Analog has a warmth, but only in pristine condition. Mine always got warped and scratched as I was not anal retentive enough to carefully dust them off and put them back in their jackets. Digital MP3'S are pristine, and as stated you can't beat the organization of Albums, songs, and artists oun oyr computers or the IPOD. It truly is a wonderful product. I believe we can purchase IAC artists and load them as well, try that with a record!!! I will be buying some music on IAC soon.

I also miss liner notes, I can't read the small print in the booklerts the come with cd;s.

1/9/2008 10:34:55 AM

As Jeff says, the vinyl album cover was an opportunity for some amazing art. I think it was Roger Dean who did covers for Yes and also Osibisa. Very restricted space on a CD is not so entertaining but from what little I've seen of IAC's DMD medium (Job # 432 on my list to do), it gives the opportunity to offer a huge range of eye-candy visuals and lyrics etc to the music downloader.

As long as you are not expecting the full and fat sound of a serious home or studio sound system, iPods are fantastic and extremely useful. I use a 4gig Nano which was a present and only keep music on it.

1/9/2008 10:43:09 AM

Last album me bought were Tomahawk's 'Anonymous'

1/9/2008 1:24:45 PM

I'm like you Larree in that I don't use my iPod with headphones. I plug it into my car audio system but rarely have it on while driving as I need to hear my engine too. I do occasionally spend time stationery in my car (usually waiting for people) and that's when I find the iPod so useful and better than radio music.

But people use iPods in different ways and they are a useful additional music player.

1/9/2008 1:37:26 PM

I have to disagree about the sound on an Ipod, trough headphones it sounds sweet to me. I listen to early Genesis, Pink Floyd, The Beatles...I do not hear anything overly compressed, new music> That may be a different story.

Ubfortunately I spend a lot odf time alone, whether it be commuting in the car three hours a day, at work, late at night when my wife and son go to bed. Even so, its very hard to share your taste in music with others unless you are at a live event. Otherwise, everyone wants to hear what they awant to hear...My wife and I do not share taste in music.

As far as anti-social? I have to agree, people don't talk in public anymore...at least to each other (strangers) They are either on the cell phone, have thei face in a newspaper or book, listening to an IPOD, or surfing the net with wi-fi. Its amazing to see all the people in Starbucks on their computers Not talking to each other!

Technology has its drawbacks... I once heard a kid say how realistic the Grass looked on a video game, he was inside on a 70 degree day instead of playing on Real Grass at the park.

1/9/2008 2:20:30 PM

To each his/her own ... I don't own a T.V. or a Telephone (cell or regular) ... I don't subscribe to any magazine or newspaper ... and I'll never buy an ipod, (unless it's a gift to one of my children or grandchildren) ... I sold my last car a few months back ... Going forward with progress is not always the best route ... I find myself getting by just fine without all the extra's that one doesn't really need ... and I'm a lot more aware of the world around me without all the distractions ...

1/9/2008 3:03:31 PM

Glad you have a computer and a way to get your songs recorded and posted in the digital age Sam!

1/9/2008 3:32:18 PM

Thanks Jeff ! ... (although it is not mine either) ... I can put everything I own in a 5x5 room ...

... but then again I have no car payment, no mortgage payment, no credit cards... etc. etc. So it's a trade off ... I think I'm getting the better end of it right now though....

1/9/2008 10:55:22 PM

I was given an iPod as a birthday present sometime after Dirge died. I had never used this new technology before usually leaving such things to Dirge. I have found it really great for travelling and commuting. On the London tubes during the rush hour you are usually squashed like a sardine with no seat and often someones armpit up your nose. It is so great to be transported into another world listening to Pink Floyd when the train stops in a tunnel for no apparent reason. It is the only thing which makes the journeys bearable. Also being able to put Dirge's music on it I can take her with me wherever I go and feel that she is always by my side.
The last albums I bought were John Rembourne's guitar music and a compilation of The Incredible String Bands old music. I also always thought Love's 'Forever Changes' was a great album.

1/10/2008 4:12:53 AM

I can't afford an ipod but I did rustle up the dollars to buy Powderfingers latest album "Dream days at the hotel existence" a great listen that I can whole heartedly recommend.

Now where did I put that walkman.....Cheers Mark

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