9/22/2009 5:46:25 PM
Sweet!

8/26/2009 7:13:04 PM
Upgraded to Prime

8/20/2009 2:44:48 AM
Wouldn't it be better if we weren't allowed to vote for ourselves in the contest?

3/4/2008 3:49:55 PM
Thanks everybody

2/3/2008 11:11:35 AM
2 Songs Uploaded

8/20/2009 2:44:48 AM

Wouldn't it be better if we weren't allowed to vote for ourselves in the contest?
I think it would be more fair that way. JMO.

8/20/2009 3:21:31 AM

C'mon - then I wouldn't get ANY votes...;)

8/20/2009 3:22:56 AM

!! you mean we can!!

8/20/2009 3:25:22 AM

and there's TWO of you!

8/20/2009 3:30:25 AM

Haha.

Or maybe if you had a limited number of votes each day, but are only able to vote for each song once for that day... I'm just trying to think of a more accurate way of voting. I don't like the idea of voting for yourself multiple times just to keep yourself in the competition.

8/20/2009 3:36:36 AM

Well sometimes I vote for myself, other times I vote for dan but most of the time I vote for maybe 5 songs at a time but I havent voted lately, until today ahaha

8/20/2009 3:58:57 AM

The ability to vote for ourselves and the ability to go around asking others to vote for us makes it irrelevant as a contest of songs to me.

But it really rocks in that it gets a lot of listens to the music, and that's a bigger goal.

8/20/2009 4:13:50 AM

Man you are being WAY too altruistic!

I think this ways workin' pretty good, and MOST people are probably doin' what I'm doin'. I. E., voting for yourself AND others, and spreading the love around.

Urrr.... but considering how well we're doin' in 4 categories, I might be a little biased.....

-pHLeGm

8/20/2009 4:29:14 AM

Might have been better to limit you to one vote a day for yourself. Harder to program, considering that you can vote with a Pipeline nick, too. Or maybe better just to allow one vote per day per account for any particular song. The way this works out, though, you can show a deeper affection than that :D

8/20/2009 4:37:52 AM

Wow no wonder my stuff was all gone N the first round...I voted only once a day for myself as I thought that was the editicate????!!!??? ( I didn't have enough free time tto listen to the whole list to vote for 9 others)am I stupid or what????? I couldn't figure out why all these ???? questionable songs made it above me to the second round???? now I know... This should be done differently next time!!!! ~Austn

8/20/2009 4:46:40 AM

The Judges, whoever they are will have the final say.... the votes are just an exercise in my opinion. There were songs near the top of the list in votes that did not get out of the first round, the judges axed them. Don't get hung up on votes...I am not sure it matters all that much.

Jeff

8/20/2009 4:49:31 AM

Yup.

You're right there Jeff.

Here's hopin' the judges factor in vocals, lyrics, songwriting, originality, catchiness and NEW-ness, above sheer production quality....


-pHLeGm

8/20/2009 5:51:41 AM ---- Updated 8/20/2009 5:58:49 AM

Agree with you Jeff. The whole idea of the contest for me is to have fun. If I started worrying about voting fraud or songs being in the wrong cateogry or any of that stuff, the whole thing would be a worthless drag. In the end the judges will weed out the wrong doing and make sure the best songs win. Now of course the word "best" is subjective and we'll all have to live with their judgement, but I'll be happy with whomever wins as long it appears that they won fairly. IAC has the technical ability
to know whose gaming the system and they want winning songs that they can be proud of as representative of this musical community. They have a vested interest in not letting the contest be hijacked. We may not like some of the winning songs in the end but as long they won fairly, that's fine with me. So anyone freaking out should chill out and enjoy the race to the finish line. May the best song win (honestly)

Congrats to Phlegm on being #1 in Pop with EGGSHELLS and #1 in Punk with DUI GUY.
Amazing accomplishment, Mr. Phelgm!

8/20/2009 5:55:34 AM ---- Updated 8/20/2009 6:08:21 AM

DOH!!!! Well thank you RIchard, and CONGRATS on your successes in Alternative Pop Rock and Classic Rock/Retro - Seems like your excelling where you SHOULD BE, eh? NICELY done!

I'll keep votin' away, for YOU and others, but what you've said here is RIGHT on TARGET.
Well Said.

8/20/2009 6:24:39 AM

I just hope the panel of Judges are not the same ones who select songs for the Big 50 or Underground 40.. if so I am screwed,.... I have never received a sniff from either one :)

8/20/2009 6:29:26 AM ---- Updated 8/20/2009 6:31:23 AM

If the voting was public I would be embarrassed to be in the top 5. I just wonder what goes through people's minds as they sit there voting all day, it's crazy, I'm glad I didn't bother entering now. I have few friends and little time and my music is too good obviously.

Get real people, you're only going to win if your song is great, average but popular (even with yourself) is not going to get past a panel of unbiased judges is it.

8/20/2009 7:15:17 AM

urrrrr..... Unbiased Judges?

I'm not sure such a thing exists in Music. But surely they'll be less biased than some of the voters!

8/20/2009 8:02:23 AM ---- Updated 8/20/2009 8:03:08 AM

" just hope the panel of Judges are not the same ones who select songs for the Big 50 or Underground 40.. if so I am screwed,.... I have never received a sniff from either one :)"

LOL dito!

8/20/2009 8:34:26 AM

Hi, I'm finding it pretty frustrating as a non artist voting. I don't know anyone here personally but I listen quite a bit, buy downloads and make stations. Indie music is usually good and different. Unfortunately I am just a lone voter and I tend to pick songs from new people, ones that don't get heard or pushed too much, of course these didn't make it through the first round. I'll try again.

Am&a

8/20/2009 2:44:44 PM

Aren't we limited to one vote per song per day?

I've been voting once a day for myself and using the other votes for other tunes I like.

Since I've got a couple of tunes doing pretty well, I'm assuming that either extra votes are discounted or that most all of the artists aren't sitting around all day voting for themselves because I'm sure not doing it.

Maybe I should. Then I could become a fake internet sensation.

8/20/2009 6:36:41 PM

"Unfortunately I am just a lone voter and I tend to pick songs from new people, ones that don't get heard or pushed too much, of course these didn't make it through the first round. "

Amanda there are plenty of songs left that don't "get heard" or "Pushed too much" . whatever that means. As for new people, there are alot left that I can't tell how long they have been here..... I don't know why being new should matter if you like the music.

As for votes, and coming back day after day... its all calculated to get impressions for "Tribalfusion" ....the outfit that is instrumental in making money for this site.

I hope you keep listening Amanda, not just to those left in the contest. There are hundreds if not thousands of songs on IAC that were not even entered.

For me?? I just like to be heard, I am not expecting to win because in the end it does not matter...and it is in no way a reflectein of how much better...or worse my songs are when compared to others. I am not competing against other artists, I just want to make a connection one listener at a time.

Regards,

Jeff

8/20/2009 7:03:28 PM

You're right Jeff, I'm sorry if I wasn't too clear. It's just that I've heard many of the songs and artists regularly on the Hitline and Big 50. Also previous winners and popular people who are on many stations so I tend to look for new names (but I still like the old timers).

I have seen many new names come up in this competition which must be good for business. I was just sorry to see good songs (for me) drop out while others remained that I didn't rate so much. Just a personal observation.

We just ran a similar competition on my arts forum last year and it seemed no-one much was happy in the end so we said never again. However people are now asking for another, people just love competitions. I wouldn't be surprised if IAC say never again, the Golden Kayaks must have been a walk in the park compared to this one.

8/20/2009 7:11:31 PM

I hear you, thanks for clarifying. I agree with alot of what you just said :)

8/20/2009 8:37:11 PM

Phlem,
I give you props man you have accomplished a lot here. My question to you and others who voted for yourself is why?

I did not cast a single vote for myself I think it is wrong to do so. I let my song stand on its own feet and let the listeners decide.

After all; if you win by voting for yourself you not give your own song a fair chance to compete you also take away the chance for sombody else to win.

I do not expect my song to survive the next round. It barely made the cut in round one. But I am proud that it stood up for itself without my holding its head above water.

I know I am in the minority and you don't have to agree.

8/20/2009 9:06:36 PM

There aren't people who sit and vote themselves all day are there? Surely no-one could be that stupid!

And if it was only everyone voting for themselves, then songs by bands would all be way higher than songs by one or two people.

Hehehe! Oh you can trust me to stir the pot :)

8/20/2009 10:04:48 PM

It's pretty sad if you vote for yourself several times each day. Once is fine.

I was under the impression that each round was followed by a round of judges voting... but that doesn't seem to be happening. IDK, I've lost a lot of interesting in the whole thing since watching all my tunes slide. I'm kind of over it now.

Off to the studio!

8/20/2009 10:19:33 PM ---- Updated 8/20/2009 10:21:16 PM

Not sure how the judges work Jessie, I don't know how you reconcile 50% popular vote with 50% by the judges... There is some formula, but unless each judge gets a ton of votes I can't see how it could be equal weight when a song is getting ten votes a day for weeks.....

I put the word out on other sites and mailing lists to whatever measly number of fans that I have :), but if they do vote I can't see them doing it day after day without some sort of fatigue setting in.

The contest is about driving people to pages with ads day after day.... It's a smart move by the management of this site. Pretty clever actually.

8/20/2009 10:21:34 PM

I am sensitive but a bit weary of the concerns being voiced here. There are a lot of accusations of people cheating or acting without honor in this contest and the only bit of evidence anyone seems to be able to offer is that some "good songs" were eliminated and some "bad songs" were not. This is obviously left up to interpretation and subject to a great deal of bias. Yes we have voted for ourselves some, but also I went to Vegas for 5 days to come back and find all of our entries still in the top 3 in each of the categories and all this talk and anger towards some of the songs toward the top concerns me naturally. I feel like our songs belong there, I have voted for them and many others here (including Conversation Suicide, Bob Elliot, and Steve Ison) even voting for people who are against us (and in one case ABOVE us) in the same category.

So lets all take a deep breath. Maybe this competition should or could have been run in such a way to ease all of your minds, and I agree with many of the points made here, but lets please give the proper respects to IAC for holding such a competition to further the exposure of all the great music on this site, and not get too bent out of shape over who wins the ipod shuffle.

8/20/2009 10:50:28 PM

Sounds like you got it figured out Jeff, but you still put an "i" in my name. It's cool, old habits die hard.

Gee, who ya talking about there Otis?

You're never going to make everyone happy, and people will get whiney when they don't get what they want... and yeah IAC put this shebang together and it's getting us some listens, but I'm not convinced that is the main reason the competition exists.

8/20/2009 10:55:27 PM

Damn, I am multitasking...... Sorry bout the Eye!

8/20/2009 11:18:03 PM

Jeffeye eYe in jesse. like who does that? haahha


eYe am painting today,scraping, sanding prep siding, yeah ongoing never stops thought I come in for a visit and see what is up eYe

l8r

bryon

8/20/2009 11:32:10 PM

"The ability to vote for ourselves and the ability to go around asking others to vote for us makes it irrelevant as a contest of songs to me."

But a contest of songs is meaningless artistically anyway...

"But it really rocks in that it gets a lot of listens to the music, and that's a bigger goal."

That's true!

P.S. Vote For Me! :-)

8/21/2009 12:59:30 AM

Well, I'm having fun.

8/21/2009 1:42:10 AM ---- Updated 8/21/2009 1:44:21 AM

it would be interesting to see the nr. of votes. i tried replacing &Sort=nVotes on the page address with &View=nVotes or something similar but it doesn't work..i still think voters are not too many, at least in electronic.. also judges votes are not sorted, because songs rankings remained the same between 1st and 2nd round, so the avarage with judges votes is not shown on the contest pages. the average has been considered only for eliminations. but it's ok to be mysterious, a contest is not a contest if doesn't make suspance:)) anyway i self-vote once a day and give the other 9 votes to other tracks i like, i don't have close friends registered here so it's fair to me:)p. not self voting is not natural, while multiple daily self-voting is sad. i agree with most of opinions, self.voting once a day it's ok. in round1 i voted also 10 times a day for other songs in other categories, but it didn't work, my favourites were all eliminated aha

8/21/2009 3:11:53 AM ---- Updated 8/21/2009 3:14:27 AM

I really don't appreciate the assumptions that I only voted for myself.

That is absolute BULLSHIT. I vote for my songs, but MOSTLY for OTHERS songs.

I apologize that apparently there are some other people out there, who actually LIKE my shit.

SO stop with the whiney-assed accusations and get a fuckin' life.

-pHLeGm

8/21/2009 11:21:30 AM

@Phlegm,

I don't anyone is accusing you of that? Anyone who is is out of order IMHO. I'm pretty sure you've spread your votes around.

Stay cool and don't get wound up. This is the bad side of music competitions, people misread comments, misinterpret things said, fall out for no good reason. It's just a game!

Your music has it's own character and is valid, so if it does well it's no suprise,,,,

8/21/2009 11:32:43 AM ---- Updated 8/21/2009 11:34:53 AM

I'm a journalist and my wife is in the competition. I'm registered as a listener. Having covered numerous political elections, I would have to say that voting for oneself isn't wrong nor egotistical. It is not unethical or immoral. Nothing wrong with supporting yourself in a competition, if the rules allow. If you are not breaking the rules, you are not cheating. If the rule is you can't vote for yourself, then you shouldn't vote for yourself. Otherwise, that's a person's personal choice.

I have great respect for those who have supported others. I am a musician, too. And I must say, there is a lot of great music in the competition and many other great songs on IAC that aren't in the competition or this second round.

But look even the Grammy Awards are popularity contests, even more than a referendum on the quality of the music.

All the best to everyone. I love my wife, I love her music and I am supporting her.

8/21/2009 11:52:22 AM

Just like I always say

"If the devil comes then shoot him with a gun!!!"
hang on I'm confused

I always say


ITS THE MODERN DANCE

8/21/2009 1:43:59 PM

Hey All -

Well, I myself, have had almost zero time to even listen to everything in each category... which is what I do before voting in the first place... I've only managed voting 2 times in the past week, the rest of the time (while multitasking), was spent listening. So, my songs will have to survive on their own. But that's fine with me... I think the coolest thing about the contest is that it really energized the vibe around here...

and there's some cool music here...

peace,
A

8/21/2009 5:15:03 PM

Phlem,
You have said multiple times in this blog that you spread the votes around and I have no reason to doubt that you did. I never accused you of only voting for your own songs. The accomplishments that you have made in your music are great!

My question is simply why you and many others here is why choose to vote for yourself?

I believe that there are many listeners who like your songs. I include myself in that category.

So my point is if that is true why not let the votes of your listeners votes count themselves? Why do we have any artist artificially inflate their own numbers?

With all due respect I think anyone who voted for themself is acting childish in the competition and should get a life.

8/21/2009 5:49:11 PM

Given human nature and the fact that the stated rules don't disallow voting for oneself, the simple fact is that the top spots (at least some of them) will become occupied by people voting for themselves multiple times (others are there by getting the vote out, which is another story - and perfectly allowable as well as honorable). That's not theory, I, uh, tested it early on (still testing, haha) after seeing quick work by exactly that process. So, those who didn't do at least some self-voting early on were pushed quickly aside by those who did. It's the nature of the real world.

Now, people aren't necessarily doing this in a crass attempt to win the contest (although I bet some are). Those near the top of the list enjoy very good visibility, which not only gets them votes but listens, which is probably more important to most of them. In my case, my valid listens have tumbled, the result of a crappile of quickly turning off the player in horror :) so it doesn't really work to have music up there which is, ah, less than you'd expect to find at the top, but obviously, not everyone is hip to that yet.

True, some just enjoy seeing themselves near the top. You can figure the psychology of that however you want.

Anyway, the popular vote isn't the final determinant of the winners here - the judges score is a make-or-break deal. So, no need to get too excited about anything that seems unjust just yet.

8/21/2009 6:32:32 PM

i vote for myself once a day because i generally support weird industrial/pop/noyz tracks in electronic, i would do it as a neutral listener so i don't feel onceadayselfvoting unfair. then i know that generally standard indie listeners have different tastes, so i'm trying to support a genre that i like but that is not so popular. that's my main interest in the contest. i know that mine and other tracks i vote for have 0% to win in the end, and this is another reason to support them.

8/21/2009 6:42:46 PM

"With all due respect I think anyone who voted for themself is acting childish in the competition and should get a life."

With all due respect anyone worrying about this shit and expending any energy letting it affect your day should "Get a Life".

Jeff

8/21/2009 7:11:06 PM

I don't think it matters....

8/21/2009 7:17:23 PM

i don't want to get a life now:)) i will have to get it in september,, but now i'm on holiday so i can waste time in childish things like 'selfvoting in a contest' aha

8/21/2009 8:37:03 PM

'The ability to vote for ourselves and the ability to go around asking others to vote for us makes it irrelevant as a contest of songs to me.'

It seems to me that the thing many artists are not too good at is promoting themselves and that one of the most of the important things for an artist to do is to build up a big base of fans. After all it is not fellow artists that are going to do too much listening and buying of your songs as they are too busy creating themselves. I think it can only be a good for all the artists on the site to mobilise all their family and friends to come and listen and vote as it is like the building of a street team to help you with promotion. The more people who come the better I would have thought and I am sure it will greatly increase the number of listeners on the site.

DK's mum

8/21/2009 9:31:52 PM

I have close to 1600 fans and promote myself everyday, the loyal fans are loyal because I communicate with them and keep them informed with what is happening with my band, ie... contests, new songs, show dates. If you view that as wrong you don't know the spirit of music. It is song and emotion and from the looks of it some of us are getting real emotional. to quote John Lennon "ALL WE NEED IS LOVE"
CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!
Stevie D
p.s. I am my biggest fan and I do listen and vote for my music, thats what makes me a musician.

8/21/2009 9:53:40 PM

Then Steve, you rock! and know all about the marketing and promotion aspects, which most musicians dont know dick about and dont know how to properly connect with their fans beyond the music....it is more about the business of music not just the music..that is if it is your profession and you are actually building a career

good for you and congratulations

bryon

8/21/2009 9:54:46 PM

I have voted for others; but also vote for myself, merely as a means of garnering plays and hopefully gaining new fans.

I have no illusions that I might win anything, what with all the mighty musical talents here. This is suppose to be about having fun and friendly fueding!! Or so I thought.

Of course I haven't logged in here for a couple of days soI haven't given myself my coveted votes. YUK YUK

8/21/2009 10:03:36 PM

???

We all Grown UPS???

???

8/21/2009 11:14:11 PM

I think it is smart business sense to vote for yourself as much as you can, and to try to get anyone you know in any way to vote for you. I think a lot of my musical heroes would have done just that. It's about getting somewhere, Mon, and you take every path you can.

But I never had an ounce of sense in getting anywhere. I haven't voted for anything at all, nor have I told anyone about the contest. I live in some fool's bubble regarding all things that might promote my stuff. I always have.

There's a little guy in me that would just see it this way: here are we artists, and there are the listeners. The listeners will take it or leave it, my job is art, so I don't really see myself as one of the choosers. I only see myself as one of the artists.

It's really not a smart thought process, but it's the way I'm built.

Notice I am still Nobody from Nowhere.

I recommend going the other route. No joke. I totally respect boosting any way you can. It shows dedication to your music.

Also, I do not assume anyone min particular has risen due to their own efforts at promotion, I do not know who does what at all, and I know for sure a lot of rising has to come from people liking the music. Probably the tops will be voted for because a lot of people like their music, and also because they did the leg work of getting people to vote for them and voting for themselves.

But I respond to all these posts on this site with whatever honestly goes on inside me. So I've said the things I've said.

8/21/2009 11:53:36 PM

Well obviously there are mixed views on this topic. And maybe that should be reason enough for self voting to be eliminated, at least to some extent...

Oh well, it's only a contest. No reason to overreact.

8/22/2009 12:27:30 AM

If voting for yourself with your "allotted" votes gets you to the top this is not much of a contest and not many outside people participating....Think about it.

8/22/2009 1:03:55 AM

20 votes a day is not enough to get you to the top. Not anymore.

8/22/2009 1:15:29 AM

Bob Elliot said


"Also, I do not assume anyone min particular has risen due to their own efforts at promotion, I do not know who does what at all, and I know for sure a lot of rising has to come from people liking the music. Probably the tops will be voted for because a lot of people like their music, and also because they did the leg work of getting people to vote for them and voting for themselves.

But I respond to all these posts on this site with whatever honestly goes on inside me. So I've said the things I've said."
unquote
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
well said Man , you are right, liking is the music is absolutely the thing and getting somewhere with your music is a bonus.....and having an advocate pulling for you and your artistry and loving what you do as a musician is huge indeed

So what I am saying is yes beleive in yourself, do what you can to get it out their and learn the ropes of how this business works

I have been involved with promotion so I do know a little of marketing music, writing for promo packs doing a bit of publicist work...contacting djs and music director.not for me,.but for others and it is a challenge for sure working to get an artist on terrestrial radio satellite radio etc.....so I do beleive you have to love the music, believe in the artist you are promoting and dont BS them.
it takes lots of energy and dedication and just hard hard work getting your name and music out there. no easy task
some of my clients are here.
a few of bryon's former clients

I stepped back from doing promotion now, dont do much except for a few people and it is only because I believe in them and their music.......and wish for them to succeed

with respect to you Bob and do indeed admire your song writing and singing Man...continued success to you
best
bryon

8/22/2009 3:10:51 AM

Canada and people from there rule. Except that dude that killed his wife and cut her fingers off and pulled her teeth out, then stuffed her in a briefcase and tossed it in a dumpster. Fuck that guy.

8/22/2009 3:43:07 AM

He tried to hide her identity, but he forgot about her two big things. They found out who she was by tracking the serial numbers on her saline filled bags from her boob Job. ... I can't make this stuff up.

8/22/2009 5:03:02 AM

They didn't even know each other. They got married after like what, a couple months or something? I saw a picture of her... not to judge the deceased but she looked like the type of girl who would marry a stranger for his money. I think she got more than she bargained for.

8/22/2009 12:32:47 PM

Wow, what a spectacular way to go off topic!

But weirdly puts things into perspective really, I mean murder verses voting for your self, which is the biggest crime?

8/22/2009 2:05:25 PM

Man I got to say, I love reading this stuff.
I agree with Jeff on the voting thing. when they turn it over to the Judges they will weed out the songs and hopefully rule the best songs for the contest. Voting for yourself or anyone else is all just to keep your interest.
If your going to be allowed to vote for yourself most people will, But most true musicans will ,like my friends from Conversation Suicide will "spread the love" which is what we should all be doing.
I am sure we all tell our friends, family, & fans to visit and vote. This gets more listners to the site and exposes all of us to a bigger fan base. That said we all come out winners.
We all should know that the best song by Judges Choice & Votes will be picked and I am sure it will be because of Quality & Taste.
I myself play fun goofy songs that are fun to sing and play but are in a much lower quality than songs from bands like Silverwood, Conversation Suicide, Jeff Allen, and Richard Scotti. My list could go much longer but I don't want to get out of hand,.
My votes go to you all, because we are all in this together. the more votes & traffic on the site the better it is for everyone.

~~~~_/)~~~~ & that's why it's just a mystery to me, why some people act like they do, so many nice things happing out here and they never even see the clues.....~~~Sea-Ya~~~_/)~

8/22/2009 4:51:27 PM

Wow.

I just read that whole BLog.

And I gotta say, I am
DEFINITELY on online Music Distribution Site BLogging GEEK.

sorry, just had a quick dose of reality smack me in the head.

Still, VERY interesting discussion here. Me likeeee~!

-pHLeGm

8/22/2009 11:06:05 PM

I have not really told any friends and family to vote. Not of those fuckers care enough to come online, make a profile and put in the effort. Pretty awesome huh? However I do have a few musician buds already online that have voted for me, like Grega or Nils. So I'm not really sure where my votes are coming from. I'm assuming it's just random voters of that genre that listen to my tune and like it. I made a couple of status updates about it on myspace, but you guys know how invisible we are on there.

I changed the subject to try and lighten the mood a bit. We all argue here too much sometimes about shit we can't change. I read a great quote on youtube last night...

"Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."

Still makes me laugh.

8/22/2009 11:14:22 PM

jesse observed from somewhere and stated

"Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."
thanks funny Jesse
HAHAHAHA DUH

like take off eh hoser eh,,

so today this is what I am doing while I work fixing this piece of crap old house that never seems to get finished eh

today I am drinking back bacon and eating beer


I mean eat back bacon and drink beer

what ever works

yeah. votes are coming at you from all directions dude


bryon

8/23/2009 12:20:50 AM

Perhaps there should be a prize in the contest called
"Best Community Organizer" ;-)

8/23/2009 7:46:28 PM ---- Updated 8/23/2009 7:47:25 PM

I decided not to vote for us and vote for others in all categories since the beginning...IMO, I just need to see where we stand as far as people believing in what we do. Don't get me wrong, we have confidence in our work, but we need to see how we guage against the BEST in Independent music here at IAC...Good luck to you all.

Slimdog

8/23/2009 8:25:25 PM

That is just my opinion. No offence meant to people who vote for themselves in this contest. Even the President voted for himself in the election. I just decide not to.

8/25/2009 12:48:27 AM

Is this the boy scouts, or a Music Promo?

The purpose is to get exposure----? NO?

sit and sulk in the corner if you wish ---or promote the f**k out of your tunes and watch the plays go up----

Phlegm has it about right----imo!

----lol and Scott of course ---thnx matey!!!


heres DKs Mom---

quote;
'It seems to me that the thing many artists are not too good at is promoting themselves and that one of the most of the important things for an artist to do is to build up a big base of fans. After all it is not fellow artists that are going to do too much listening and buying of your songs as they are too busy creating themselves. I think it can only be a good for all the artists on the site to mobilise all their family and friends to come and listen and vote as it is like the building of a street team to help you with promotion. The more people who come the better I would have thought and I am sure it will greatly increase the number of listeners on the site.'

8/25/2009 1:37:10 AM

8/25/2009 7:17:55 AM

nice one, ar you pirate you

8/26/2009 6:57:40 PM

Damng! Ahaha.

Actually, I had not been monitoring my status until one day I sorted by vote and I saw that my songs "Fiends like You" and "By Any Other Name" were near the top. Probably thanks to Dan, but I was suprised to see it.

I had been voting for 10 of the songs I liked the most in each category, and I'll probably go back to doing just that.

as long as my songs get sone attention, and some plays, and if people like them enough to add them to stations, and enjoy listening to them, THAT is my only goal really. That's all I care about.

I noticed, I had been getting a decent amount of daily plays, but starting around Aug 5th or so, the amount of plays seemedd to had been stuck, there were no new plays added until just last week. Cos I normnally get about 3,000 plays per month for certain songs, and it had been that way for almost a year, then beginning of August, it was stuck at about 300 plays.

Maybe the songs had less visibility or something, or maybe it was a glitch with the song counting software- my account informations seems to be stuck on June 2009, once July and Aug get added, I'll have about 25 bucks in my cash stream coffers. Ahaha

8/26/2009 9:38:53 PM

Rob, what happened to your songs, did you withdraw some of them from the contest ?

DKM

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