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9/29/2019 3:14:27 PM
The Alan Lomax of Indie music

9/11/2019 7:30:19 PM
Daniel Johnston died

8/8/2019 7:32:09 AM
RIP David Berman (Silver Jews)

6/12/2019 9:01:48 PM
A message from Ray Porter

5/21/2019 1:22:39 PM
The greatest live show I ever attended...

5/15/2019 1:53:19 PM
Jazz

5/10/2019 2:59:16 PM
Listen to me live on the radio TODAY (5/10)

2/28/2019 10:05:15 AM
Saw The Chills last night!

2/6/2019 4:01:04 PM
Booked another gig -- in May!

2/1/2019 5:15:39 PM
I'm thinking of stepping into Brazilian Pop

12/14/2018 8:06:23 AM
A great quote about playing guitar

12/9/2018 8:08:46 PM
How many of you have actually recorded to TAPE?

11/15/2018 10:12:59 AM
Anyone gonna be around Chicago for the Holidays?

10/18/2018 2:41:47 PM
SONGWRITERS: Is there a singer you would love to hear sing one of your songs?

8/27/2018 8:39:33 AM
Woke up with a completed song in my head!

8/20/2018 1:18:27 PM
I have this song about my little baby boy, Cary

7/5/2018 2:43:50 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BRYON!

6/15/2018 8:36:36 AM
Meeting IMPeople

5/8/2018 5:32:45 PM
Coming soon...the Hop On Pop BOX SET!!!

3/25/2018 9:40:15 PM
I think I have achieved my goal as a musician.

3/1/2018 2:28:05 PM
Which should I record next?

2/22/2018 6:57:58 PM
I'm gonna be a baby now

2/4/2018 10:54:01 AM
I saw a guy who looked like Scott last night

12/18/2017 7:32:11 AM
Thank you SO much for the "Best Band" nomination!

11/13/2017 6:30:24 PM
New songs are UP!!!

10/13/2017 9:48:24 AM
New songs—mixes are coming in!

9/30/2017 11:11:11 AM
Recording next week!

9/14/2017 10:46:42 AM
RIP Grant Hart

8/30/2017 9:51:19 AM
Tomorrow is my 20th wedding anniversary!

8/18/2017 9:13:28 AM
Cary turns 18 today!

7/1/2017 6:44:21 PM
I did a Facebook Live stream

5/1/2017 8:03:38 AM
The Monkees

4/10/2017 7:20:20 AM
Where did Larree's topic about The Beatles go?

4/5/2017 7:31:26 PM
I'm playing at Billy Corgan's place next week

3/24/2017 7:03:39 AM
If any of you are ever in Chicago

3/20/2017 8:08:09 PM
Vagina

3/6/2017 7:53:07 PM
Chance the Rapper donates $1M to Chicago Public Schools

12/2/2016 7:35:56 PM
The perfect Christmas gift!!!

12/2/2016 1:30:27 PM
Why is there a picture of Stoneman at the bottom of the front page?

10/23/2016 6:26:43 AM
Somewhere, Steve Goodman is smiling...

7/23/2016 6:04:51 AM
Live on the radio 7/29—stream or over the air!

7/8/2016 7:54:23 AM
I've been covered again -- this time by BEATLESEX!

5/16/2016 10:11:22 AM
I was on TV last night

4/21/2016 10:36:51 AM
Prince: Rest In Peace O(+>

3/24/2016 8:13:54 AM
Just finished writing my first song in almost 2 years!

3/15/2016 5:49:20 AM
Just catalogued my entire music collection!

2/26/2016 8:38:28 AM
Emitt Rhodes! His first album in 40 years released TODAY!!!

2/18/2016 6:34:00 PM
Writing on instruments that you don't actually play

1/7/2016 7:38:02 AM
Are there any artists whose new albums you will ALWAYS buy?

1/2/2016 5:28:44 PM
Free damn download

12/21/2015 6:24:03 AM
Happy Holidays, from Hop On Pop

12/15/2015 6:55:34 AM
Todd's top albums of 2015

11/27/2015 7:20:14 AM
In Chicago? I'm playing a show tonight (11/27)!

9/4/2015 11:17:13 AM
Twitter account from "Person Who Sits Next to Kim Davis"

8/22/2015 7:45:49 AM
My band got some airplay in Sweden!

8/14/2015 4:47:00 AM
I've been writing full-on record reviews

7/24/2015 11:09:54 AM
MY stumper questions for music geeks

5/29/2015 5:08:24 PM
#TheThankYouProject

5/27/2015 6:41:39 AM
What music is on your iPod/phone/portable device?

5/21/2015 4:20:23 PM
Rock quote of the day

5/20/2015 9:03:22 AM
A dissertation on… my lyrics?!

5/19/2015 7:20:04 AM
Looks great! So… any new features we should know?

4/29/2015 4:32:18 AM
Hooray! I've been waiting to post this NEW song!!!

3/5/2015 8:01:07 AM
New song: "We Made It To the Middle"

2/26/2015 5:01:03 AM
A couple of recipes, if you like to cook:

1/9/2015 12:24:15 PM
Sunday -- recording session

9/19/2014 7:50:00 AM
First full-band rehearsal in a long time

8/27/2014 6:14:48 AM
New way of releasing an album

6/23/2014 10:43:19 AM
Okay, so the new song is UP "Spinning, Standing Still"

6/12/2014 12:04:32 PM
Anyone in ST. LOUIS?

4/23/2014 8:35:19 AM
One of the best songs I have ever written

4/22/2014 5:07:29 AM
Muscle Shoals documentary -- you should ALL see this

3/4/2014 6:46:59 AM
Brand New FULL-BAND recording

2/26/2014 10:19:40 AM
Video from 2/21 show

2/13/2014 11:31:58 AM
I'll be on the radio tomorrow (2/14/2014)

1/2/2014 9:11:46 AM
It's been 10 years since my first album came out

12/16/2013 6:02:50 AM
The Curtis Mayfield Story

12/9/2013 12:05:06 PM
Your best of 2013?

12/6/2013 10:25:40 AM
Happy Holidays!!!

11/14/2013 10:34:41 AM
Back in the studio

11/12/2013 6:28:34 PM
Are we in a new Golden Age of mainstream pop?

10/11/2013 6:40:55 AM
This salsa...

10/9/2013 7:50:11 AM
When the demo is better than the released version

9/26/2013 5:34:43 AM
Anybody remember this guy from Garageband.com?

8/16/2013 7:44:31 PM
So, what is/are your main axe(s)?

8/8/2013 10:05:14 AM
Help me get a little press? Thanks!

7/14/2013 4:41:08 PM
It's nice to be on the Hitline

6/29/2013 12:45:14 PM
Giving it all away

6/18/2013 4:41:49 AM
Interviewed for a blog

6/3/2013 4:30:59 PM
One of those moments that keeps me going...

5/1/2013 4:53:15 PM
The one UK punk band that actually LIKED Thatcher

5/1/2013 2:02:23 PM
Money and time

4/30/2013 4:04:12 PM
My friend Phil almost died

4/18/2013 10:06:19 AM
What have I been listening to?

2/22/2013 7:31:46 AM
New single for download at my Bandcamp page

2/4/2013 7:16:59 AM
After 22 years a NEW MY BLOODY VALENTINE ALBUM!!!

1/8/2013 8:23:34 AM
Not feeling very inspired

1/2/2013 5:10:59 AM
The No-Getters - "Sympathy"

12/31/2012 6:40:42 AM
A Happy New Year song!!!

12/28/2012 11:46:03 AM
Todd's Top 10 (or so) albums of 2012

12/6/2012 6:46:07 AM
Maybe my favorite album of the year

11/28/2012 10:33:28 AM
Holiday special:

11/27/2012 7:15:20 AM
Happy 70th birthday Jimi Hendrix

11/21/2012 2:56:51 PM
A bunch of new acoustic tunes posted

11/6/2012 7:23:04 AM
In or around Chicago? Playing a show Thursday night.

10/22/2012 11:12:32 AM
A work tape of a new song

10/18/2012 6:44:58 AM
Hop on Pop is on Spotify

9/14/2012 12:17:47 PM
Dreamtown

9/6/2012 6:18:52 AM
Whiteboarding an arrangement.

8/21/2012 5:35:18 AM
I was listening to Chicken on a Bicycle last night...

7/20/2012 11:04:16 AM
Another song from the new EP -- so hard to sing

6/11/2012 6:26:08 AM
Anyone pitch their songs to "major" artists?

4/17/2012 6:20:19 AM
Another song from the new EP -- my newest composition

4/13/2012 2:14:34 PM
Just got the first bit of radio play for my new album!

4/9/2012 10:32:47 AM
I have my new EP available for download (and streaming)

4/5/2012 10:34:34 AM
A song unlike I've ever done before... or since

3/26/2012 10:30:18 AM
First song streaming from my new EP

3/26/2012 7:24:45 AM
Release date for my new EP: 4/10

3/5/2012 5:35:39 AM
CHICAGO: playing a show Thursday (3/8)

2/13/2012 10:07:06 AM
Where the hell was the love for Don Cornelius at the Grammys last night?

2/8/2012 10:15:41 AM
If you're gonna be in or around CHICAGO next month...

1/13/2012 12:50:25 PM
JESSE ADAMS! Another one who is finally getting his due on the front page.

1/1/2012 7:20:29 AM
Thanks for putting "Suckers" on the Hitline

12/22/2011 7:09:13 AM
Nice one, Phlegm and Coversation Suicide!

12/14/2011 6:22:33 AM
Another overdue artist gets theirs... congrats SILVERWOOD STUDIO

12/5/2011 11:17:54 AM
Nice work, Hugh Hamilton.

8/30/2011 8:05:58 AM
Interview with Todd at Hearts of Country Radio

7/5/2011 5:46:10 AM
More than a year and a half after its release... another review. Weird.

6/28/2011 8:01:46 AM
Thanks for (finally) paying me

5/31/2011 7:39:38 PM
The first new song that I've written in THREE YEARS?!?!

5/18/2011 5:40:25 AM
VIDEO of me playing live, on the air (5/20)!

5/9/2011 10:04:58 AM
Well, thank you!!

4/16/2011 9:42:43 AM
Chicken T-shirts!

3/22/2011 7:35:08 AM
Who here is from the Chicago area?

3/16/2011 6:50:33 AM
Recording my first official "solo" record?

3/7/2011 8:48:06 AM
I would like to get involved here again, but...

2/16/2011 8:36:45 AM
Happy birthday -- CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE

2/14/2011 5:46:13 AM
As long as we're on the subject of Facebook...

2/9/2011 6:26:28 AM
If you think that you hate rap music... think again

12/21/2010 6:37:18 AM
The nature of the creative mind:

12/9/2010 5:42:28 AM
Tribute to Alex Chilton

12/2/2010 5:48:39 AM
CHICKEN named one of the "10 Best Albums of the Year"!

12/2/2010 5:24:49 AM
Death Cab for Cutie!

11/23/2010 7:00:03 AM
New YouTube for "Here"

11/11/2010 8:55:11 AM
Money?

11/9/2010 6:48:52 AM
Whoever bought 2 songs from me today... THANK YOU!

11/8/2010 5:48:00 AM
An interview with Hop On Pop at Aussie web mag Tomatrax

11/2/2010 6:35:00 AM
Taking a page from Bryon's book: play this tune and help out Hop on Pop...

10/29/2010 5:33:31 AM
Both HoP albums AND the Cash Cow album are ALL available for DL

10/25/2010 6:59:05 AM
Hop On Pop knows egg rolls!

10/22/2010 9:04:27 AM
Playing a gig in Chicago -- 11/6

10/21/2010 7:22:23 AM
For those of you who like Jackass

10/21/2010 5:40:28 AM
"Sheila of the Worms" has crawled onto the HITLINE

10/19/2010 7:45:31 AM
New demo posted

10/8/2010 8:36:52 AM
F*cking disheartening

10/1/2010 9:08:50 AM
My label is folding

9/28/2010 6:19:20 PM
October 16 -- come see me play in Chicago

9/20/2010 5:07:03 AM
Is anybody listening? Strange.

9/10/2010 11:14:50 AM
Interviewed at Wobblehouse.com

9/9/2010 4:48:56 AM
Happy New Year!

9/1/2010 7:59:27 AM
What the hell? I'll post another song from CHICKEN...

8/26/2010 4:51:23 AM
Thanks for putting me on the Hitline

8/20/2010 12:56:22 PM
"What a Fool Believes" played entirely ON TOY INSTRUMENTS!!!

8/17/2010 12:01:10 PM
The "LIKE" buttons on our IAC pages...

8/16/2010 7:14:01 AM
I don't know what to say anymore

8/4/2010 10:26:57 AM
New rap/hip hop station... accepting submissions

7/19/2010 6:20:47 AM
Gonna record a follow-up single: A- and B-sides

7/9/2010 10:50:06 AM
Roky Erickson playing for little kids.

6/30/2010 6:01:17 AM
Heard my song on the radio last night... and IT WAS A REQUEST!

6/28/2010 5:26:48 PM
Follow me on Twitter?

6/28/2010 11:34:39 AM
Chicago -- CITY -- gig 7/24: advance ticketing!

6/25/2010 6:36:12 AM
R.I.P.: Pete Quaife (original Kinks bassist)

6/15/2010 4:04:09 PM
New Hop On Pop website!

6/14/2010 11:46:38 AM
Hop On Pop (Todd) live ON THE RADIO (streaming, too)

6/14/2010 5:47:44 AM
What's Todd Listening to in 2010? (part 2)

6/14/2010 5:13:24 AM
Back From Vacation. Hey!

6/2/2010 6:37:10 AM
What's your favorite chord? Do you have one?

5/18/2010 7:05:25 AM
I still just want to be heard

5/18/2010 5:03:38 AM
Chicken On a Bicycle -- pay what you want!!

5/5/2010 10:19:04 AM
Hey... Nashville!!!

4/23/2010 1:34:27 PM
Chicago... I am playing this weekend, if you are near here or whatever.

4/14/2010 2:23:09 PM
Bring the topics back to the front page!

4/9/2010 2:10:08 PM
IAC just feels dead.

3/30/2010 9:11:55 AM
What inspired you to start playing music? Writing music?

3/29/2010 7:51:34 AM
Just a thread to say "thank you"

3/25/2010 8:21:01 AM
Why I write songs

3/18/2010 6:42:56 AM
Alex Chilton (Box Tops/Big Star) is dead

3/15/2010 7:26:11 AM
AllMusic entry for CHICKEN...

3/8/2010 6:38:36 AM
Check out The Garden Clots -- I love these songs!

3/4/2010 7:49:23 AM
Holy crap! "HERE" is at #13 on the OVERALL charts?!?!

2/26/2010 8:31:59 PM
VIDEO: "Here" live and acoustic at the record release party 2/18

2/26/2010 2:43:36 PM
"TORTURED ARTIST" for your listening pleasure

2/22/2010 1:10:12 PM
So, I decided to post another song... "Sheila Of the Worms"

2/15/2010 7:20:41 AM
RIP: Doug Fieger (The Knack)

2/3/2010 2:35:05 PM
Second CHICKEN song on the Hitline in as many weeks?!?!

2/1/2010 9:38:23 AM
The first CHICKEN review arrived today!

2/1/2010 9:12:51 AM
Turning my 10-year-old on to music!

1/30/2010 8:56:14 PM
I PUT UP A THIRD SONG: so, which is "The Single"?

1/30/2010 10:39:05 AM
Drum solos

1/28/2010 2:05:21 PM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE: NOW FOR SALE (PHYSICAL CDs)

1/25/2010 1:24:01 PM
So, a tune of mine is being used on a radio commercial...

1/19/2010 12:47:48 PM
Hop On Pop - Chicken On a Bicycle: NOW AT ITUNES

1/19/2010 10:44:11 AM
So, IAC Support... did you get my email?

1/11/2010 10:54:18 AM
NEW!!! songs up at IAC... welcome the Chicken.

1/8/2010 7:14:41 AM
RECORD RELEASE PARTY!!! (if you're in or around Chicago at the time)

1/5/2010 7:38:11 PM
Do I have "The Eye Of the Tiger"? I'm gonna find out.

1/4/2010 6:51:14 AM
What is Todd Listening to in 2010?

12/31/2009 9:29:23 AM
"New Year's Eve" on New Year's Eve

12/24/2009 6:40:52 AM
Merry Christmas, you sexy people, you!!!

12/15/2009 7:56:30 AM
Just bought a new guitar last night!

12/10/2009 7:03:45 AM
Hey Larree: Who's The Guitar God NOW?!?!

12/7/2009 8:21:11 AM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE: official release date announcement

12/2/2009 6:22:17 PM
A Genius. And the documentary film about him!

11/29/2009 1:20:14 PM
Muppet "Bohemian Rhapsody"

11/16/2009 9:43:37 AM
I started a new blog

11/13/2009 1:56:33 PM
This song has been broken so long, I need to promote it now that IT'S FIXED!

11/9/2009 9:29:34 AM
Is the CD dead? Am I wasting my money?

11/9/2009 8:05:06 AM
Perry Como -- this is not a joke

11/3/2009 8:33:12 AM
Strippop

11/2/2009 8:34:46 AM
You may have noticed that I removed a few songs from my page.

10/28/2009 8:28:30 AM
To those of you who have AutoPlay enabled at any of your pages...

10/19/2009 2:29:21 PM
Mojo Nixon is GIVING it ALL away for FREE!

10/13/2009 12:17:17 PM
Do you remember your first gig?

10/8/2009 2:21:33 PM
Another Todd song faceoff: "Sweet Jane" vs. "Blitzkreig Bop"

10/7/2009 12:57:05 PM
I have NO new songs up!!!

10/6/2009 9:37:24 AM
Gentlemen...

10/5/2009 9:59:06 AM
I have $25 to spend at Borders how should I spend it?

9/25/2009 8:36:46 AM
Todd's song challenge: "Waterloo Sunset" vs. "God Only Knows"

9/21/2009 12:52:48 PM
HOP ON POP versus XTC?!?!

9/17/2009 8:12:53 AM
Another new Good Stuff Station!

9/16/2009 5:01:18 PM
It's people like THIS that bring this place to a whole nother level!

9/16/2009 3:29:39 PM
Favorite LONG jams?

9/13/2009 9:42:13 PM
Jim Carroll DEAD?

8/31/2009 7:59:09 PM
I bought a piano at an estate sale this weekend

8/5/2009 7:38:06 PM
Ever have one of your best songs not make it onto the album?

8/5/2009 2:37:43 PM
My ChewToy entry in the Punk/Emo/Ska contest is top 10? Help, please?

7/31/2009 4:39:24 PM
The Takers dirtyass country in a bottle.

7/27/2009 2:40:01 PM
Okay, so a new song IS up: "I'm Pathetic"

7/22/2009 7:55:41 PM
The big number at the top of the page!

7/16/2009 4:12:59 PM
The greatest Drummer Joke EVER!

7/15/2009 10:09:55 PM
This is weird. How did this happen?

7/15/2009 2:59:49 PM
What defines a "BAND"?

6/25/2009 6:28:13 PM
Farrah Fawcett: RIP

6/19/2009 7:26:07 PM
Discovering your favorite albums in a record store. Ever happen to you?

6/17/2009 6:22:58 PM
Excellent rant on the death of music criticism

6/3/2009 2:30:30 PM
So, what is your "Day Job"?

6/2/2009 9:07:27 PM
A true demo

6/2/2009 12:43:33 PM
What's Todd Listening to Today? 2009 Edition, vol. 2

5/12/2009 7:08:31 PM
Pre-release CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE Buzz!

5/11/2009 1:34:41 PM
Not your typical High School Musical (Neutral Milk Hotel!)

5/6/2009 2:34:26 PM
Which song of yours is unfairly overlooked?

5/4/2009 6:19:29 PM
Yeah, I put it on here for streaming, but can I RELEASE it like this?

4/29/2009 2:29:40 PM
With sites like IAC, et. al., is there a need for an "official" site for your band?

4/28/2009 4:04:58 PM
Can you say CONSERVATIVE Media Bias?

4/24/2009 4:42:30 PM
Chicago tomorrow morning free festival show

4/16/2009 3:14:35 PM
Pop/Rock Suites?

4/15/2009 2:18:08 PM
Placing your music into TV/Films/Commercials?

4/7/2009 8:27:36 PM
IAC artist HAPPY ASHTRAY song on TV tonight (4/7/09)!!!

4/2/2009 2:14:10 PM
CHICKEN ON A BICYCLE!

4/1/2009 2:21:13 PM
Favorite quotes Muhammad Ali version

3/31/2009 1:02:46 PM
New song from this weekend - "Sheila of the Worms"!

3/26/2009 11:40:57 AM
"Ashes On the Water" #35 in the Underground 40!

3/19/2009 12:45:56 PM
The Killed Spirits

3/11/2009 1:15:23 PM
"I'm Pathetic" well, it's true!!!

3/4/2009 2:16:36 PM
I think I'm becoming a producer.

3/3/2009 1:47:31 PM
You like beer? I do.

3/2/2009 3:49:47 PM
Kevin White - "A Song For Holly"

2/25/2009 1:56:26 PM
NEW BEATLES SONG UNEARTHED!!!!

2/24/2009 8:31:34 PM
Favorite SINGLE LYRIC!

2/22/2009 2:50:13 PM
I might be a little absent for a bit

2/18/2009 2:47:56 PM
Writing a song? Can't finish it?

2/17/2009 6:38:06 PM
Thelonious Monk's advice to Steve Lacy

2/16/2009 5:53:11 AM
Say what you want about her boobies...

2/9/2009 8:12:52 AM
I called the radio station to request a song and...

1/30/2009 8:59:59 AM
Hey Everyone! LET'S LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC!!!

1/30/2009 6:40:00 AM
Funny thing about the blogs/internet boards

1/29/2009 6:10:53 AM
Math: the language of God, which makes Music....

1/27/2009 12:09:22 PM
This one's for Holo!

1/27/2009 6:02:57 AM
I know what's happening!!!

1/20/2009 7:20:30 AM
Licensing cover songs?

1/19/2009 6:01:45 AM
New song is only up for a short time "Come On, Let's Go"

1/15/2009 11:54:34 AM
Rob the Rich - "Forbes"

1/14/2009 6:53:30 AM
The newest GOOD STUFF station!

1/14/2009 6:30:01 AM
Not just favorite music movies, but also favorite movie quotes...

1/12/2009 6:23:50 AM
With which (non-IAC) artists do you most wish to collaborate?

1/7/2009 5:54:39 AM
The hardest song to sing?

1/2/2009 5:43:33 AM
The 2009 "What's Todd Listening To?" thread

12/29/2008 6:19:22 AM
Your favorite quotes from the film: "A Christmas Story"

12/26/2008 8:21:39 PM
Just a reminder about this excellent song

12/25/2008 7:23:21 PM
Does this work?

12/24/2008 8:54:38 PM
Something deep for you all to ponder.

12/24/2008 6:07:20 PM
New Year's Eve song

12/19/2008 11:01:26 AM
I love you all

12/15/2008 10:33:51 AM
Give me a reason to keep this song up at IAC

12/14/2008 8:12:59 PM
What would REALLY happen if you got to open for THE BEATLES?!?!?!?!

12/11/2008 8:39:39 AM
Ray Porter's interview with Phlegm

12/10/2008 11:01:36 AM
Cash Stream Buy-In value has dropped? Already?

12/8/2008 11:16:50 AM
Leo Goldberg is now available for streaming.

12/8/2008 7:36:28 AM
Bringing in an outside SINGER?

12/1/2008 10:18:38 AM
Converting .m4a to .mp3 for use here?

11/28/2008 7:06:35 AM
What I'm thankful for

11/26/2008 6:10:49 AM
So, I'm being covered... TWICE. Make that THREE times!!!

11/16/2008 10:13:26 AM
Any of you struggle with disabilities

11/16/2008 9:43:22 AM
Interview with legendary producer Jim Dickinson on Public Radio

11/11/2008 9:37:36 AM
A song for Veteran's Day

11/11/2008 6:09:57 AM
To those of you who served in the Military:

11/11/2008 5:59:17 AM
Dear Man With No Band Sam,

11/10/2008 7:36:51 AM
When an artist has a mountain of music at their IAC page...

11/7/2008 11:13:13 AM
Can you tell it's been slow at work for me?

11/6/2008 12:46:41 PM
Hear where it all started!

11/6/2008 11:20:07 AM
Adding songs to a DMD, but not to your artist page?

11/6/2008 5:19:01 AM
Those of you who noticed the new DMD at my page....

11/4/2008 1:39:49 PM
Photographic evidence that I really did vote!

10/30/2008 12:51:25 PM
I just got an AllMusic entry for me, by myself.

10/30/2008 11:46:58 AM
You who have autoplay enabled...

10/29/2008 7:48:32 AM
I am so ready for this election to be over!

10/28/2008 8:00:55 AM
You know, the great thing about democracy....

10/23/2008 6:19:23 AM
Chicago area: I'm playing a rare club show... November 13!

10/22/2008 12:18:39 PM
Chinese Democracy FOR REAL... do you care?

10/17/2008 12:16:12 PM
Levi Stubbs dead

10/15/2008 6:59:39 AM
A Year With Swollen Appendices: The Diary of Brian Eno

10/13/2008 10:39:02 AM
LISTEN TO MY NEW SONG!!!!!!! or something.....

10/9/2008 5:02:20 AM
"C'mon Angel" is at #12 on the Country charts!

10/2/2008 6:44:47 AM
So you like albums to have a consistent sound, or to sound different from song-to-song?

9/29/2008 8:30:23 AM
I am such a wuss now.

9/22/2008 10:28:37 AM
The best rock n' roll scream on IAC?

9/19/2008 6:48:21 AM
Where Todd recommends specific music for specific folks here at IAC:

9/18/2008 11:30:12 AM
The craziest, coolest song that I have yet heard on IAC

9/17/2008 9:20:47 AM
All options to promote on the web: iLike

9/8/2008 11:01:24 AM
Great new tune...

9/8/2008 5:26:32 AM
One of my favorite songs has made the Hitline

9/5/2008 2:30:10 PM
Totally psyched! My birthday concert will be...

9/5/2008 5:20:40 AM
Ricky Skaggs?

9/3/2008 5:52:55 AM
How many of you here actually entertain the idea of making a living with your music?

9/2/2008 4:32:52 AM
This is why I make music

8/20/2008 6:21:33 AM
Nick Lowe fans: LISTEN UP!!!

8/20/2008 5:11:15 AM
Brought my guitar to work

8/18/2008 12:39:27 PM
Not just spam, but I am having issues playing my songs

8/15/2008 7:42:51 AM
My top 100 albums of all-time

7/26/2008 3:35:51 PM
"Hey" remixed and up for only a couple of days.

7/22/2008 3:15:18 PM
Open Mic night: I'll be at Fitzgerald's (Chicago) tonight (7/22)

7/18/2008 12:37:00 PM
The Truth about McCain and his Bush

7/15/2008 6:20:57 AM
My station: "The Good Stuff"

7/9/2008 6:55:33 AM
Hop On Pop recording updates

7/7/2008 8:50:59 AM
Lest you all think that I was serious...

7/4/2008 9:23:22 AM
A wonderful musician who wants to TEACH

7/2/2008 7:36:38 AM
Needed: Chicago-area bluegrass musicians

6/23/2008 5:23:46 AM
Second MIXTAPE song posted... again for a short time, only.

6/11/2008 5:54:55 PM
Your favorite moment gigging?

6/10/2008 11:37:59 AM
Now YOU can listen to some of my extensive music collection

5/29/2008 7:36:41 PM
Basic tracking for MIXTAPE song #2 is done!

5/22/2008 12:16:25 PM
I'm trying to bring this guy to IAC

5/22/2008 7:52:18 AM
A NEW SONG -- well, a new old song...

5/19/2008 6:01:53 AM
What's Todd Listening to Today? -- 2008 Edition, vol. 2

5/19/2008 5:59:19 AM
Whoever bought a HoP DMD: Thank you!!!

5/16/2008 5:03:41 AM
Todd: Solo, Live, and Acoustic -- CD available

5/12/2008 11:52:17 AM
No more small shows in CHICAGO??!? --- STOP THIS!!!

5/8/2008 11:05:12 AM
Post the link to your IACer-selected cover tune here!!!

5/7/2008 12:12:52 PM
Pick a Cover for another IAC Musician

5/5/2008 10:44:30 AM
What is up with ukelele?!?!?!

5/5/2008 6:59:02 AM
Which of your songs surprised you?

4/30/2008 12:15:44 PM
Kids review Yo La Tengo

4/29/2008 11:29:40 AM
HEY BLUEGRASS MUSICIANS!!!!

4/29/2008 4:58:52 AM
Oblique Strategies

4/28/2008 12:41:23 PM
Another MIXTAPE demo is up for your perusal

4/21/2008 9:26:46 AM
CHICAGO: I'm playing a show on Apr. 24

4/11/2008 6:38:04 AM
If you like the new song...

4/9/2008 6:27:28 AM
New station - The Good Stuff, Too!

4/7/2008 5:01:58 AM
FIRST "MIXTAPE" SONG UP (for a short time only)

3/28/2008 7:28:28 AM
How do we (CAN we) search by city?

3/25/2008 11:49:47 AM
One of my best-ever songs... is incomplete. What would you do?

3/7/2008 7:35:00 AM
And... WOW!!! Thank You!

3/6/2008 4:26:12 AM
I saw The Pogues last night.

3/5/2008 5:53:30 AM
HEAVY FREAKIN' METAL!!!

2/22/2008 8:47:12 AM
A meditation for you:

2/19/2008 6:57:09 AM
Songs that you wrote around a song title.

2/7/2008 7:39:12 AM
Because we could all use a good laugh

1/31/2008 10:53:59 AM
I have been here since the beginning and never had a Top-50.

1/31/2008 9:32:30 AM
A new station: Yin/Yang

1/22/2008 7:23:26 AM
I don't wanna be famous.

1/17/2008 11:18:04 AM
You have the power... I know that I do.

1/15/2008 6:38:50 AM
Anyone see Roky Erickson on Austin City Limits the other night?

1/9/2008 6:09:17 AM
I fear that I've lost my passion

1/2/2008 7:30:12 AM
What's Todd listening to today? -- 2008 Edition

12/26/2007 9:18:07 AM
Chicago: I'm playing a show on Jan. 4

12/24/2007 7:51:19 AM
My end-of year mix

12/10/2007 9:42:27 AM
Volume control issues?

12/4/2007 9:03:58 AM
What's the most-embarassing album in your collection?

11/29/2007 10:34:20 AM
List here ALL of the projects that you have on IAC

11/27/2007 3:08:12 PM
ESSENTIAL READING FOR ANYBODY WHO RECORDS MUSIC!!!

11/26/2007 11:11:04 AM
Have you ever shared a gig with an IAC artist? How was it?

11/26/2007 9:45:33 AM
My "The Good Stuff" station is #33 on the station charts?!?!

11/20/2007 10:14:23 AM
Creating stations of entirely your own music?!?!

11/14/2007 3:15:10 PM
Who is selling HARD-COPIES of CDs here?

11/1/2007 12:12:44 PM
I'm going to play for my son's 2nd Grade class tomorrow!

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Let's hook up on MySpace, too!

10/26/2007 8:49:43 AM
Let's hear your musician jokes.

10/24/2007 3:35:22 PM
Scott, add a new genre? Lo-Fi?

10/24/2007 2:14:32 PM
So. Cal. IACer check-in. Are you okay? Status?

10/10/2007 9:49:56 AM
Post your AllMusic listings/reviews

10/10/2007 9:09:26 AM
So, I won concert tickets to see... Steve Earle

10/5/2007 10:21:51 AM
I just upped the first song I ever wrote

10/2/2007 9:13:54 AM
I bought a resonator guitar yesterday!

9/26/2007 3:44:33 PM
Hop On Pop planning to record again in the near future!

9/25/2007 9:05:27 AM
New station -- BlergleFlorp

9/10/2007 1:29:16 PM
Anyone ever organize a Benefit concert?

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Why I love IAC

9/7/2007 12:25:30 PM
A universal invitation to all you IACers

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Drop me a line to see HoP live on TV

9/5/2007 9:44:57 AM
What was your FIRST gig?

8/31/2007 8:44:47 AM
It's my 10-year wedding anniversary!!!

8/28/2007 9:52:21 AM
Another community for IACers to take advantage of....

8/23/2007 9:18:33 AM
You know what pisses me off?

8/20/2007 3:48:31 PM
The next logical step for IAC? Their own LABEL!

8/15/2007 3:16:47 PM
CHICAGO!!! I'm calling to you!

8/9/2007 10:27:43 AM
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8/7/2007 8:12:39 AM
Anybody in Chicago wanna play with me?

8/3/2007 9:57:52 AM
I decided that i LIKE our album!

7/30/2007 3:11:33 PM
Finally got a MySpace page up!

7/30/2007 9:00:39 AM
Back from vacation -- and I'm not happy about it.

7/20/2007 12:13:29 PM
To those of you who have cover songs up here...

6/28/2007 8:26:02 AM
Anyone see the Paul Simon tribute on PBS last night?

6/19/2007 8:49:27 AM
Making "mixes" for friends... want a mix?

6/13/2007 12:08:35 PM
Is it me, or do you always see the same artists on the front page?

6/11/2007 8:52:21 AM
Perpetual member?

6/6/2007 1:45:44 PM
Just created a new, Live music-only station

5/25/2007 9:55:36 AM
Another site that I think many here could benefit from... JPFolks

5/18/2007 10:33:53 AM
I'll be playing a solo/acoustic show May 24.

5/17/2007 1:54:52 PM
What makes for a good cover song?

5/14/2007 3:49:49 PM
THE GOOD STUFF!!!!

5/11/2007 10:37:40 AM
One time, when I was taking with the late Stanley Kubrick...

5/8/2007 9:25:49 AM
One World, One Music

5/1/2007 2:51:27 PM
What inspires me? What inspires you?

4/23/2007 9:41:25 AM
Autoplay: Good marketing, or just-plain annoying?

4/12/2007 2:45:13 PM
Getting airplay on our local station?

4/4/2007 2:53:54 PM
A special offer from Hop On Pop:

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Calling Nick Lowe! Nick Lowe: you are being paged!

3/20/2007 10:43:42 AM
Back to the basement...

3/16/2007 9:18:05 AM
I'm playing a free acoustic show Sunday!

3/9/2007 2:32:17 PM
The change in season does something to me

3/6/2007 4:14:40 PM
A crazy, all-over the place mix for you

2/5/2007 8:39:15 AM
Um.. Prince at the Super Bowl... WOW!

2/2/2007 10:14:55 AM
Is there any way to convert from .m4a to .mp3 on a Mac?

1/31/2007 8:48:40 AM
Allow me to rephrase: MY STATION NEEDS SONGS!!!

1/30/2007 2:13:06 PM
The Demonstration Station!!!

1/17/2007 4:12:28 PM
The WGN vid has been taken down.

1/8/2007 12:14:06 PM
I finally got our TV performance up on the web!!!

9/25/2006 10:22:55 AM
All I want is to be heard...

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Hop On Pop is on the Hitline.



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Hop On Pop

9/3/2008 5:52:55 AM

How many of you here actually entertain the idea of making a living with your music?
For me, it's just a matter of getting my stuff heard.
If I make any money at all, it's just a bonus. I just want to be able to sustain myself with the music just enough to make another record. If, by some freak of nature, I am able to go above and beyond that, it's all gravy. Hell, I don't even dream about becoming anything resembling a "rock star" anymore.

How about you?
Why are you here?
Are you still trying to "make it" in the business, or are you like me and are just trying to get heard?

Do you tour?

(If so, are you coming to Chicago? Drop me a line!)

I think the internet has allowed more folks like me to have a louder voice, and that is cool. Because I think that we take our music just as seriously as those who are there to do it as a living. We just don't deal with the B.S. that a lot of the career musicians have to deal with.


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Steve White

9/3/2008 6:16:20 AM


Hi Todd

My big thing right now is looking for recording artists to sell my songs to, or even write some new ones for them.

I've done the gig thing cross country a few times and naa, not the life for me. :)

While I wait. I post my songs up all over the place because I also want my music heard by as many as possible.

And the last thing is............I love playing music!

Steve


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Hop On Pop

9/3/2008 6:21:33 AM


I think love of music is what keeps all of us going.

And yeah, I wouldn't mind getting my songs recorded by some "major"-type artists, either. But I don't think that I could do the Songwriter thing, either: writing songs on-demand for specific artists.

I actually had a brief conversation with Jim Peterik not too long ago, and hearing him talk about what he did, sounded pretty frustrating. He was writing songs for the next Meatloaf album, at the time and had had several tunes rejected as "not being quite right". Seems like it would take the joy out of the creation process.


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the kozy king

9/3/2008 6:34:37 AM



Although I have no plans to make money with my music, performing my songs live is super important to me because it's something I've never done. It's always been cover bands. I've always tried to write
songs, but just resumed writing (and playing) a few years ago.

SAme as you Tod. It's for the love of music.


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9/3/2008 6:39:20 AM


For me it is all about money because how can we determine if we are any good at all unless we judge it by sales. I don't sell much music but if I were good enough then I would. Therefore I value my music in direct relation to how much money it makes because how else can I judge. That's not to say that the plays and station adds and awards are not appreciatted because they are but that is mostly down to other artists and not the public. When and if I ever write and record music that is good enough for the public to purchase in reasonable quantity then that is the day when I will be content and know that I am good.
The problem is that the standard that I have to reach in order to achieve sales is so high that it is probably outwith my capability.
I do believe however than we can all make a bit more money if we allow our songs to be downloaded free while a sponser pays us for the hits on our page.
I do believe that this is the future for us indies and that instead of struggling to create sales we struggle to give our music away for free. In that way our music may get out there more and if it is good enough then the hits on our pages increase which will increase our value to our sponsers who advertise on our pages.


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Hop On Pop

9/3/2008 6:52:41 AM


I do believe however than we can all make a bit more money if we allow our songs to be downloaded free while a sponser pays us for the hits on our page.
I do believe that this is the future for us indies and that instead of struggling to create sales we struggle to give our music away for free. In that way our music may get out there more and if it is good enough then the hits on our pages increase which will increase our value to our sponsers who advertise on our pages.


I had a similar idea that I was pitching to the guy who owns my label (who is also a friend), because he is struggling to stay afloat and tired of loosing money like he has for the past 10 years.

Not talking about validation, Ray. We're all too smart to believe you or anything like you're mocking there. But, just the idea of being able to somehow "make it".


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9/3/2008 7:40:00 AM


Ye Laree, touring is an answer.
I'd pay to see you perform if you ever came to Scotland.
I've watched your video's and you are one if not the best performer on the site.
No kidding
ray


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the perfect banana

9/3/2008 8:02:53 AM


Part of the reason indies have so much trouble selling their music is because of all the free downloads out there. Napster and mp3.com helped kill the business of indie music before it could prosper.


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9/3/2008 8:25:55 AM


na bannana
napster had no affect at all. This business re-invents itself everyday with thousounds of new listeners. Nothing that happened before has much relevance.
Free downloads is the answer and time will prove me right.

p.s i do love you bannana and i'm sorry i told you to peel off yesterday but it's just that i find you quite attractive.


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never never band

9/3/2008 8:28:06 AM


I teach and I Gig..
that's the only music money coming in.


I-Tunes and CD baby still sell Sticky Pistil CDs, but it's not much.

Back when I toured it was pretty tough, as a relatively unknown band with on minimal tour support.
I think I've said before that my best year touring was $21,000.
heh..
and that was working Constantly.


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The Man With No Band

9/3/2008 8:37:21 AM


I am making a living with my music ... it's just my living standards are lower than most ... 'bout twenty-five dollars a week is all a man really needs .... :)


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Black Velvet Lace

9/3/2008 9:16:17 AM


Oh I dunno Larree.. I'll bet most men could sustain on 25 bucks a week if they didn't have a wife/kids/mortgage/etc... if my hub were single he'd be happy with a TV, a bed, a chair and access to a kitchen (I know this.. I saw his bachelor pad with my own eyes :D ).

As for making money making music, during grad school I did live off gigging live. After school was over gigging became a much loved weekly avocation. After 20 years I got sick and had to give it up. I don't now miss the hours, but do miss the *playing*.

~Lace~


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The Man With No Band

9/3/2008 9:18:02 AM


I'm actually serious Larree ... this week I get extra cash and am staying in a $400,000.00 house (owners gone) ... I'm Dog sitting and playing my acoustic to him ... It's quite a gig and I'm loving it ! .... I haven't had a job for seven years now ... and I've probably only averaged 'bout twenty-five dollars a week ...


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Andy Broad

9/3/2008 9:26:33 AM


I've been making my living from music for about 18 years now. I earn a little more than Sam's $25.00 a week, but not much :-)

I mainly gig, busk, sell a few CDs (almost all whilst busking, a few at gigs, very rarely on line).

I've tried a few variations of making money from my misic online but very few have worked. I've yet to sell a download, nonone has clicked on any of my donate buttons (not the music ones anyway, the hobbiest Amiga programming button has got used a couple of times).
I've tried adding google adds to my main website and that's generating $0.75 a month (success!) and I'm getting a trickle of listens at last.fm, don't know how much royalties that gonna get me but I wont be buying a house with it :-).

So for me gigging is still the way.

I don't compromise my music at all, otherwise I could maybe make a little more money doing "pop" stuff but I might as well build satelites for a living (what I used to before becoming an muso).



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satch

9/3/2008 9:32:45 AM


Susan and I are still at it, earning what we can gigging and selling CD's (also mostly at gigs). I also earn from recording and producing other artists, and also royalties from library music... we get by thanks to the combination of all of that with some internet web site work... but we do live as cheaply as possible, growing our own food, minimising our energy consumption, etc etc.

We have no great dreams of fame and fortune, but we do hope that our music touches a few people in a way that makes them think a little more about this life, hopefully encouraging people to see beyond the physical...


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Kevin White

9/3/2008 10:05:22 AM


As a kid, I gigged for years ... back when I could earn 25 a wk and survive nicely. We earned enough to get by.

Eventually, I turned to a gig as a musical manufacturers rep to pay the bills, keeping my avocation as a vocation. I represented the top name in the gear biz at the time: EV, Denon, Hafler, Pro Co, Cerwin Vega, Symmetrix, Sherwood, Kramer Guitars, etc ...

It was fun, but the travel was punishing.

I left that to open my own local business ... which has led to me not having to worry about paying the bills ...

One of the aspects I didn't like about music as a career was that I had to rely on it to pay bills ... and so my decisions were colored by my needs and motivations.

Now ... well ...

I can do whatever the hell I want ... and I still sell my music ... w/o worrying about it needing to support me.

And Ray - I believe you're right about the distribution model. What I'd like to see is indie networks begin to promote their in house rosters -- and pay artists when their content is performed ... out of advertising/banner revenue ... just like radio used to do.

If artist's music is the draw, why do the proprietors who count on visitational "hits" ... otherwise known as "listeners" ... and take hit counts to sell to advertisers ... akin to what Arbitron used to do in radio ...

... the music is already uploaded and stored ... which is paid for by the uploading artist.

Why do they get free music, and ad revenue, and only give back to the artist when they "sell".

But ... here's the rub:

Nobody sells when it's always a click away for free ... available any time.

"Plays" is what artists will eventually have to generate revenue from.

Best,

Kev-


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Slimdog Productions

9/3/2008 10:51:20 AM ---- Updated 9/3/2008 10:53:57 AM


We're hoping to live our dream through Cashbox Records Inc., There are plans to do a college circuit tour, some festivals and some radio promos through them. One of the groups that signed with Cashbox and that is here on IAC, The Lemmings, are from S. Africa. They are, as we speak, doing a tour here in the US and Cashbox's booking agency, is working to get them a spot on Jay Leno while here in the US. Pretty serious stuff. They are also doing shows in Austin, California and Vegas while on their 6 month visas...Our album is almost completed. We have one track to finish and then on for mastering. Hopefully, October will be in full swing for us. Internet has watered down the music product where it is harder than ever to compete, but if you use venues like IAC, podcasting (hint hint) and giving away some free downloads, you can build a fanbase where indie labels and majors may take notice. It takes some work and luck....If things go well, I hope to leave my job at the airlines eventually.

P.S. Block Scholars want to send a prayer to Mike Peace, who had a serious stroke a few days ago. Our prayers are with you. Get well brother....


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Steve Ison

9/3/2008 4:08:12 PM ---- Updated 9/3/2008 4:15:06 PM


Well playing live 200 nights a year sounds like the best (and most obvious way) to sell CDs and make money.Tho like Larree and Kevin said incessant,grinding lofi gigging year in-year out dosn't sound much fun to me past the age of 22 or something...

I still believe i'll make a living from doing music one day-tho other than working hard to keep developing myself as a songwriter i do absoloutly nothing practical to realise that dream..
Maybe it'll never happen,but i'm fine with that.
It feels like i'll lose something if i inwardly give up on it- so i'm quite content to stay deluded till i die..keepin' it unreal! Yo!!

I've sold about 10 copies of my CD,but i prefer to think of it more as a quality limited edition heh...

Actually,applying Rays theory to myself here-i can definitely understand why people havn't brought it after unwittingly hearing one my tracks 'sandra's face' straight after some well recorded songs on one of my station this morning..It sounded like sh*t- i certainly wouldn't've brought it.

I'm more envious of famous artists ability to hire orchestras and brass bands or be indulged in whatever sonic whim they fancy to paint their songs exactly how they want, more than the fame,acclaim or money if i'm honest..

Its cool i've got so much free-time and space to make music tho...I'm still getting away with it.
I feel really blessed by that compared to so many people here who have little time to be creative at all and are stressed n pressured up to the eyeballs by work n life.

I wouldn't swap the freedom i have there for all the money in the world..


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Hop On Pop

9/3/2008 4:39:20 PM


I've sold about 10 copies of my CD,but i prefer to think of it more as a quality limited edition heh...

Check my "Now Playing" thread and you'll know where at least one of those copies is! I've sold about 100. And that's with a label behind me! You're doing pretty good, Steve!


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SILVERWOODSTUDIO

9/3/2008 4:55:25 PM


---some fine words here!!

Slim Dog ---all our best vibes beaming across to ewe for the CD!

Music has been part of my income stream for many years ---gigs --teaching---selling for tv adds---gala days--- festivals----and don't forget funerals!!!

Have played at a few funerals now-----always very meaningful---often have to learn a specific song (or more) of the families choice!!
usually young people who have died ---but the family doesn't want --the usual organ music!

------and we record up and coming artists cheaply. also!


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Slimdog Productions

9/3/2008 5:06:32 PM


Thanks buddy. We can use all the vibes we can get!!! We hope to be like you Steve, where all we do is music and nothing else. I just feel that we can do SO much more creative-wise if the majority of our time was not spent working so we can make music instead of making music work for us...but I wouldn't consider it work when it comes to making music!!!


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Bob Elliott

9/3/2008 5:14:51 PM


I do it because I'm the real deal.

Whether I get money or no...

But I'm a dedicated dad, and nothing's changing that either...so I'll probably be obscure.

So what? My mind's in it all the time for years and years...

To be honest, for the core that actually makes the music, the creative core, the outside world is just that: the outside world, and sort of not relevant to what I need to do...

People that think like I do probably die obscure...

Again: so what?


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The Man With No Band

9/3/2008 5:27:14 PM


Wow ... you're pretty cheery today Bob ....


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Steve Ison

9/3/2008 5:34:27 PM ---- Updated 9/3/2008 5:43:16 PM


Slim..I'm very lucky i live in the UK as that has a much better welfare system than the U.S..I get 2/3rds of my rent paid in housing benefit-allowing me to do a 16 hour a week part-time job (doing music as well)..I don't have kids or no-one to look after either other than myself..
You need time and space to develop creatively-i can't see any other way..

The U.S sounds tough,tough,TOUGH man-i'm so glad i wasn't born there.
Dunno how Sam manages on $25 a week-now thats seriously lofi living...

Good luck with your recording deal..:)

100 copies is all i printed up of TSANRD Todd! (i've still got about 20 left..Most have been given away to friends or for promotion..
100 copies actually SOLD sounds like gold disc status to me lol

I'm so glad you're still enjoying my album,Really appreciate you still playing it :)


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Duane Flock

9/3/2008 6:11:44 PM


I play in two cover bands now, and that pays basically for my strings, repairs, gas to gigs, ect. ect.
I have a full-time job for the bills for a living cause Who knows when I'll sell a CD. I buy 200 blank copies at a time and wind-up giving them all away because I figure I'd rather have the strategic coverage for future possible ventures. I play gigs on my own to promote my original material, and everybody says "your voice is great" or "I like this tune or that". I know they're just being nice, because nothing ever comes of it.
So,..... I'm basically here to clog up everyone else chances plus I'm not a quitter....

I've had no new tunes lately cause there's a couple of colabs in the works coming soon also. ( I'm Dragging "Em Down with me Bwhahahahahaha!!!!.....)

D.


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Slimdog Productions

9/3/2008 7:29:50 PM


Thanks Steve, you're such a class act!!! My plans are at this time that when the booking for the tours start, thank God with my job, I can drop trips (I'm a flight attendant), where I can get a good number of days off. I won't be performing on stage (sometimes to hype the crowd), but I would like to be there to sell merchandise as well (CDs, t-shirts). You are So lucky to have your life that way in the UK. Luckily, I also have an understanding wife and my 4 kids are in their teens, so they don't need to watched over...too much.


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Kevin White

9/3/2008 7:37:37 PM


The U.S. support system is based on a simple premise:

"Do you like Cat food?"

I think that this is predicated on the belief that since old people who have gone w/o dental support their whole life ... well, they have presumably already lost their teeth WAY before arriving at old age.

So ... cat food ... void of tough chewing ...

IS the diet of many elder Americans.

Sometimes we like to call it "Ensure" ... because it's a MUCH more palatable simile ... but really it's the same pureed stuff.

Breakfast of Musicians!

Kev-


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Nigels

9/3/2008 7:51:58 PM


This is a great thread, I would like to thank everyone for their honest open sharing. I dont know if you caught Beth's thread about playing in the subway but one evening she made $190 and got heaps of positive feedback so as things stands it seems she is doing really well.
I agree and disagree with Rays comment, money is important and if people like your music enough to buy it then thats pretty solid evidence that you are doing something thats working.
But I dont see this applying to music purley as an artform as oppopsed to entertainment, sometimes its takes a while for people to understand and appreciate great art.


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Richard Scotti

9/3/2008 10:30:59 PM ---- Updated 9/3/2008 10:38:26 PM


I make a modest living producing other people's songs. But sometimes it's even worse than a 9-5 job. Clients can be very demanding and at times very much in denial about their material. Some clients are a joy to work with. Others are a nightmare. I often turn jobs down because of this reason. My inability to make money with my own material depresses me greatly at times even though I've only started to think seriously that I could do it if I had the right legal representation to help me with the business end of ptiching songs as I am not very good at that. I love making music for it's own reward and I will do it for the rest of life if I am able but I would like to make substantially more money than I do now. I fear that the country is headed for an economic depression and I'd like to be prepared for it.

There are some people who can do it all. They can write, record, play and be their own managers. Well, I can write, record and play, but I can't manage my career.
I just can't do it. I'm a very shy person who does not enjoy promoting myself although I have learned a little about that at IAC. My whole strategy was to join IAC which I did a few months ago and try to assess my work trhough the evaluations of others. I then worked harder than ever to step up my game and write a few more songs that were as good as or better than the ones I already had. I've got about 25 songs on my page and several new ones in progress.
When I reach 30 songs I feel I can eliminate some of the weaker ones and out together a killer CD of only the best songs. Then I'll feel ready to hire people to help me sell my music.

It seems almost impossible to have worked as hard as I have, spent as much money as I've spent and spent as much time as I have and not achieve a substantial monetary reward. I would love to have enough money to do other creative projects like short films and rock musicals, off broadway music based plays, etc. But for now all I can do is struggle to produce my own work with the money I get from producing other people's work. Sometimes I get paid in studio time and that certainly has it's pros and cons. It's a constant balancing act.

I want with all my heart to write a hit record for an established artist. I don't know if that will ever happen but I'll never give up trying. Money isn't everything but without it, a world of possibilites and opportunities continues to shrink. You need money to make money. Art is it's own reward but without money it's very hard to make good art.

Sometimes I get so discouraged by the music scene and how hard it is to get recognized that I just want to give up completely. Bu then I write a new song that moves me and moves otthers at IAC and I start to get filled with hope again but lately I've been concerned that I may reach a point where I just can't put in the time, energy and money into a hobby that has little chance of becoming a profession. I really dread that day in a serious way. I simply don't know how I will live with the fact that I've devoted my whole adult life and sacrificed so much for something that may not succeed in a tangible way. My music gives me great joy but the joy is tempered by feelings of failure that so far I haven't made more money from it, money for much needed vacations, money to help others, money to pay off loans, money for expensive dental work,money to improve living condtions which have a tremendous effect on creativity and well being.

As they say in Hollywood, it's a thrill just to get nominated but it's a biiger thrill to actually win. I'm tired of being nomnated for the prize. For once I just want to grab that brass ring while I still can.


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9/3/2008 10:38:03 PM ---- Updated 9/3/2008 11:02:04 PM


Hmm.... so much already said. But a subject near & dear to my heart. Realistically, I'm much like Steve Ison, choosing to live in the delusional un-reality that I might some day NOT need a day/night job i.e. , might someday "make it" whatever that really means!

While we DO have the forthcoming CD of our "BEST OF" being released on ROMULUS X Records, thanks to IACMusic providing an introduction to Kenny Colgate who truly promotes Indie Artists he likes, it'll be on OUR shoulders (except for promo by the label) to SELL these beasts...

I started keeping track of money going in and out for ARTFEST MUSIC, and with sales of D.I.Y. cds on the D.I.Y. label Artfest music, funds from shows, etc. we're currently in the BLACK by like $40 cLEARLY not a career musician per se, yet.

BUT, that is my dream and goal. And ALL three of our last CDs sales only resulted in about 200 sold. MANY more were given away as promos in ARIZONA & in a smaller way, thoughout the world by mail, travels, etc. So hopefully the interest is gradually building....

So am I completely delusional? I don't think so, but time will tell! Either way, I'll be tryin' to get my music out there, until I die, because I think it's ONE of the many things I'm supposed to do on this crazy planet.
Whether I eventually make enough money to NOT have to work a "day" job, while pursuing my music career, is NOT really that critical, because I'm always being reminded to do it for the LOVE of it. And a Singer/Musician/Entertainer/Promoter/MC is who I believe I'm supposed to be. Plus, pursuing these artistic endeavors keeps me a little more sane.

Either way, I still get to LOVE my family & spend time with them, while pursuin' all this. To tell you the truth, having lots of kids is definitely a life decision that has made the starvin' artist route less possible. For this reason alone, I may always have to have another career/money makin' endeavor required. All this for my foolish dream to live as if I were a musician who's works may be somewhat known one day.... Okay. Now THAT is DEFINITELY a little delusional, but it's what I do.

- my two cents worth, 'cause it's all I can afford > Phlegm of Conversation Suicide


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9/4/2008 12:35:11 AM


One thing for sure, money or no money what we have here in this community is priceless.

To Steve Ison

Hey man don't put yourself down cus you are one of the best songwriters on the site and your sounding great it's just that the standard is so high on this site.

To Nigels

Good point again about the time it can take to appreciatte art. I guess the story of van goughs life proves that. The posts on here have mellowed my thought aand shown me that we are dealing with here is something much more important that money.


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Nigels

9/4/2008 4:09:21 AM


Ray
The work that you are doing here is priceless. I would like to take this opportunity to say you have a beautiful sound. As I have said before on a previous thread the interview work is incredibly valuable. Also your stations were you support the new and emerging artists has given much joy to many. IAC is a great place and you are a great muscian.


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Tony Vani and Debbie Hoskin

9/4/2008 4:40:45 AM


I have made money at music. I use to gig quite a bit and a few of my songs did quite well in the Canadian market a decade or so ago. I recieved some nice royalty checks.

I don't really expect to make money in this business. I never have. I went to school to have a career that would support me which has enabled me to enjoy playing music as a hobby and as a second income. I got lucky a few times with music but you can't count on it. I had a family to raise and I needed something I could count on. Deb


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kurtkurtley

9/4/2008 4:59:31 AM


I make all the money I need doing Steve Ison covers ; )

(Well, ALMOST all the money I need...."I get the news I need on the weather report")


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kurtkurtley

9/4/2008 4:59:31 AM


I make all the money I need doing Steve Ison covers ; )

(Well, ALMOST all the money I need...."I get the news I need on the weather report")


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My-T-Hi

9/4/2008 6:50:26 AM


A good friend once said that CDs are just like realy good fliers for gigs.. so give them away for free..

I guess this isn't a great business model.... but I think there is a good point there.

When I was in high school, my band made a couple of 7" singles. It didn't make any money but 25 years later it was put on a compilation CD.. I'm I glad I did that? Yes.....


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